Doyou care about Boris Johnson's constant lying?

[Kendodd]

My theory is that voters don't care.

@Cornettoninja

Boris was the only one who could get us out of the Brexit mess

Didn’t he manage to broker a deal that was worse than what Theresa hashed out?

Yes, but they voted against her deal and for his because, well, men.

I don’t think we’ve started enforcing the border checks on our border yet have we. So even if we ignore the fact that for 1/4 of the union it’s definitely not sorted out, it’s not exactly sorted out for everybody else either.

The scheme to get UK people into the fruit picking jobs fell flat on its face

UK workers will need every job in the coming months/years. We cannot afford to give them away

@Daphnise

We don't know he's lying, it's all surmise.

And why is it significant if he were lying?

A politician who doesn't lie?

No such thing!

Seriously? Yes, it’s absolutely without doubt he lies repeatedly. Jennifer Acuri, for example - “No, I didn’t have an affair with her”. Ooh let me see other lies.

“ the UK will leave the EU “entire and perfect” and that “we will make sure that businesses face no extra costs and no checks for stuff being exported from Northern Ireland to Great Britain.”

When Andrew Marr asked Johnson whether there will there be tariffs and checks on goods moving from Northern Ireland into Great Britain after Brexit the prime minister replied “absolutely not”.

When Marr put to Johnson that his own Brexit Secretary, Stephen Barclay, said there will have to be checks, Johnson said “there will be no tariffs and no checks”.

Boris Johnson insisted to Andrew Marr that the Conservatives were building 40 new hospitals. He went on to clarify his claim by saying “We are putting in the seed money for 40 new hospitals”, and that due to “decisions taken by this government” there will be 40 more hospitals in “10 years time.”

Johnson told the BBC’s Andrew Marr that “Jeremy Corbyn wants to scrap MI5” and that the Labour leader has “said he would disband MI5”. There is no evidence that Jeremy Corbyn has expressed this view or that it is part of Labour policy.

Johnson said that the UK’s corporation tax is “already the lowest in Europe” The UK’s corporation tax rate of 19 percent is not the lowest in Europe. As Full Fact noted, Ireland’s rate is 12.5 percent, Lithuania’s rate is 15 percent and Hungary’s is 9 percent.

Significant because he’s leading our government. Significant because of companies being bought by donations to the Tory party rather than their ability to deliver. That’s cost lives. Lots of lives.

Significant because people are voting based on a pack of lies.

If UK workers would pick fruit that would be fine, but they won't.

He's a proven liar. He lies to parliament, lies to the media and lies to his wife and children. What the fuck did anyone expect?
Here's what his former boss, Max Hastings had to say about him:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain
The man is an honesty free zone.
And in answer to the question - yes - I bloody well do care.

If UK workers would pick fruit that would be fine, but they won't

They (we) will have to, if jobs are needed due to the pandemic aftermath. We will need to do what's necessary.

@mustlovegin

Now we can throw Boris overboard

That's a mean thing to say.

Anyway, we are not out of the woods yet and we will need decisive leadership for the next 3 or 4 years at least.

Given the tricky current geopolitical landscape, what we don't need is a taciturn pushover steering the country.

Better find someone then, because Johnson is the taciturn pushover.

@BettysCardigan

If UK workers would pick fruit that would be fine, but they won't.

I don’t think it’s the actual role itself that’s the problem as much as the requirement to base yourself on site for months at a time for not much money in not great conditions. I’d do the actual job but there’s no way I’m living in a caravan with six strangers for four months for NMW. The childcare bill we would need to pay to cover my share of childcare would be wiped out very quickly.

There is some responsibility on the farmers to look at who they’re targeting for recruitment and the length of contracts they’re offering if they want to continue offering the same conditions. I can’t see many 18 year olds signing up for four or six months, I’m sure shorter contracts would be more popular.

Decisive leadership
Come now. I suppose he's good at choosing £800 per roll wallpaper but that's about it. Fucks sake.

Surely you're not required to live there, nobody can force you to do that! I think it's probably that farmers have to provide housing because only non-residents will take the jobs.

@mustlovegin

If UK workers would pick fruit that would be fine, but they won't

They (we) will have to, if jobs are needed due to the pandemic aftermath. We will need to do what's necessary.

Are you volunteering then?

@mustlovegin

If UK workers would pick fruit that would be fine, but they won't

They (we) will have to, if jobs are needed due to the pandemic aftermath. We will need to do what's necessary.

They certainly will if Mr Sunak takes over from Johnson. He’s to the right of Ghengis Khan when it comes to his voting history on low pay, benefits, union activity and equality. He wants a rise in VAT, but lower capital gains and inheritance taxes. Hardly levelling up, is it? Given job losses from Brexit, given the likelihood of a return to austerity and benefits freeze (if not cuts) I suspect many more will have to pick vegetables of go hungry and homeless.

@BettysCardigan

Surely you're not required to live there, nobody can force you to do that! I think it's probably that farmers have to provide housing because only non-residents will take the jobs.

No but the shit wages and long hours would mean that a commute of any distance would make a massive hole in your pay. Also not possible to do this job from home. So really only people who live very close or are prepared to live on site can really do the job.

@mustlovegin

Now we can throw Boris overboard

That's a mean thing to say.

Anyway, we are not out of the woods yet and we will need decisive leadership for the next 3 or 4 years at least.

Given the tricky current geopolitical landscape, what we don't need is a taciturn pushover steering the country.

Please tell me at what point Boris has shown any indication at all of decisive leadership. His dithering about imposing lockdowns in time have cost thousands of lives and there have been many u- turns . Given the tricky current geopolitical landscape what we don’t need is a narcissistic , lying, amoral, bumbling idiot in charge .

They (we) will have to, if jobs are needed due to the pandemic aftermath. We will need to do what's necessary.

Good, we expect to see you rolling up your sleeves and getting on with it then. It might have escaped your notice that we have an aging population and jobs that many of us could have done 40 years ago are now beyond us.

Better find someone then

Johnson has managed to pull through where others have failed. That has to be acknowledged whatever opinion people have of him as a person or character, if you like.

@mustlovegin

Better find someone then

Johnson has managed to pull through where others have failed. That has to be acknowledged whatever opinion people have of him as a person or character, if you like.

Pull through what exactly? The Brexit shitshow or the 'piling up' of bodies? He's a disaster.

@BettysCardigan

Surely you're not required to live there, nobody can force you to do that! I think it's probably that farmers have to provide housing because only non-residents will take the jobs.

I think it’s a mixture of that and the fact these farms are usually in pretty remote places (for obvious reasons) with unsociable hours.

It’s my understanding the rent is deducted from wages so there’s probably a reluctance from employers to give that up as it likely reduces their overall costs slightly. I just checked an agency and they stated in their ‘what to expect’ blurb that accommodation would likely be a mobile home with up to six others at £50 p/w. Presuming a mobile home doesn’t cost £300 p/w to run and maintain that’s a fairly good profit margin isn’t it?

I’m not knocking farmers for setting things up like that but I can see why there’s a reluctance to change the working environment even slightly to attract UK workers over foreign workers when it’s likely to reduce their profits further.

@mustlovegin

The scheme to get UK people into the fruit picking jobs fell flat on its face

UK workers will need every job in the coming months/years. We cannot afford to give them away

Good job the Prime Minister hasn't been spending his time trying to sort out tax breaks for someone who took his business overseas at the first sign that Brexit might actually happen.

I don't care. I have washing to sort and kids to feed. I know that's bad

@mustlovegin

Better find someone then

Johnson has managed to pull through where others have failed. That has to be acknowledged whatever opinion people have of him as a person or character, if you like.

Only thing he’s pulled is the wool over gullible eyes.

We have almost the highest death rate globally. Even given Indias current tragedy.
We have billions missing on undelivered corrupt contracts.
We have Tory control and silencing of the BBC.
We have greater polarisation of wealth.
We have a border in Norther Ireland and the GFA peace is at risk.
We have decimated fishing industry and huge impact on dairy industries with exports down hugely.

What has he actually pulled through on?

@BettysCardigan

Surely you're not required to live there, nobody can force you to do that! I think it's probably that farmers have to provide housing because only non-residents will take the jobs.

The question really is with these jobs on farms where you have to live in, what are the soft furnishings like. Can you ask someone else to pay 10000s of pounds for new wallpaper?

Yes Theresa May was not going to put a customs barrier in the Irish Sea, which Johnson has done, after voting against what May had agreed.

That was the ‘backstop’, which the DUP also rejected. They admitted later that they’d made a mistake with that as it was a much better deal than the one Boris negotiated with the border in the Irish Sea.

@Chloemol

No, they all lie regardless of which party they are

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