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Doyou care about Boris Johnson's constant lying?

999 replies

Kendodd · 28/04/2021 07:24

My theory is that voters don't care.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/04/2021 16:16

You may or may not like Jeremy Corbyn but I don't think anyone could say he lied. About anything Andrew Neill interview?

A rampacked train?

Size of the labour party membership was the highest it had every been under his watch?

No antisemitism?

That 'hard evidence' document?

Plenty more, including more money for the NHS, pensions for women...

CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/04/2021 16:17

@QwertyGirly

No need to get personal there, *@CuriousaboutSamphire* . Or is that really your only ammunition.
??? Personal???

Oh! OK! Grin

Sociallydistancedcocktails · 28/04/2021 16:17

I care, a lot.

Sociallydistancedcocktails · 28/04/2021 16:18

I think people do care, but they don’t know what to do. So they bury their heads.

adrianmolesmole · 28/04/2021 16:21

Even if the rest of us find his politics and persona repulsive surely Tory voters should be horrified and aspire to someone better

Unfortunately the Tories/right-wing in general never aspire to anything better - just look at trump and his supporters, the worse he behaves the more they (still) love him.

SausageCrush · 28/04/2021 16:23

No. I think they should move on and concentrate on more important things.

QwertyGirly · 28/04/2021 16:25

Some kids are taking 8 subjects at GCSE. We can all 'concentrate' on more that one thing at a time.

BiggerBoat1 · 28/04/2021 16:26

What is more important than our Prime Minister lying to us, being corrupt and showing blatant disregard for lives? Those seem to be pretty big issues to me.

DrRamsesEmerson · 28/04/2021 16:26

Also, what is more important than trying to ensure that the government acts with integrity? If they lie about everything we're all walking on quicksand all the time.

DrRamsesEmerson · 28/04/2021 16:30

Cross-posted with@BiggerBoat1!

Tabitha005 · 28/04/2021 16:32

I care that we have a Prime Minister who has a solid history of bullshitting and outright lying and has been SACKED from a previous job because of it.

I heard someone refer to Johnson the other day as an 'vacuum of integrity', and I think that sums him up perfectly. He is not fit for his current role.

Bearnecessity · 28/04/2021 16:56

Dynamo.....you literally make no sense....

SpiderinaWingMirror · 28/04/2021 17:24

I reckon Cummings has got a death of 1000 cuts planned for him.
Will quite enjoy watching it unfold tbh.
But he wont lose. Like the tosser Cameron. They were rich greedy Tory public school boys before they became PM and still will be afterwards.

Cornettoninja · 28/04/2021 17:42

I reckon Cummings has got a death of 1000 cuts planned for him

I think you’re on to something there. Can’t say I’ll be watching with much sympathy either, like you say they always come up smelling of roses eventually. They all know the drill - disgrace yourself, lie low, quietly sneak back into relevance and someone’s pocket.

KinseyWinsey · 28/04/2021 18:04

Yep. It matters a lot to me that he appears to have zero integrity. And the stuff he comes out with is pretty foul to be honest. Not to mention leaving his cancer stricken wife for his affair partner.

It's embarrassing to have a leader like that.

Crankley · 28/04/2021 18:05

Unless you're going to organise for the whole of the British public to down tools and protest essentially until the current government is kicked out and replaced with human beings that have brains and souls, then what is the point in getting upset about it?

It's all the Labour voters and left wingers have left. Labour were decimated in the last election and are unlikely to win the next. Corbyn was responsibie for so many feeling disinfranchised and unable to vote for their own Party. He has been replaced by a tailor's dummy who appears to be incapable of behaving like a real leader of the opposition party. Like some other parties, Labour appear to have difficulty identifying what a woman is. The Tories have a group, Conservatives for Women, who raise awareness of issues which threaten the safety and dignity of women.

So the left wingers feel impotent and the only thing left is to spew out hatred on here on a regular basis.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 28/04/2021 18:23

@SpiderinaWingMirror

I reckon Cummings has got a death of 1000 cuts planned for him. Will quite enjoy watching it unfold tbh. But he wont lose. Like the tosser Cameron. They were rich greedy Tory public school boys before they became PM and still will be afterwards.
There is not enough popcorn in the world for watching this play out.
WhiteDenim · 28/04/2021 18:34

I care. The man's not fit for office

Kendodd · 28/04/2021 18:36

@4cats2kids

@Kendodd where did you get the information that they are training people to lie please? I haven’t heard that, can you link?

metro.co.uk/2020/12/17/tory-activists-told-to-lie-and-weaponise-fake-news-in-party-newsletter-13765087/

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jgw1 · 28/04/2021 18:39

@Crankley

Unless you're going to organise for the whole of the British public to down tools and protest essentially until the current government is kicked out and replaced with human beings that have brains and souls, then what is the point in getting upset about it?

It's all the Labour voters and left wingers have left. Labour were decimated in the last election and are unlikely to win the next. Corbyn was responsibie for so many feeling disinfranchised and unable to vote for their own Party. He has been replaced by a tailor's dummy who appears to be incapable of behaving like a real leader of the opposition party. Like some other parties, Labour appear to have difficulty identifying what a woman is. The Tories have a group, Conservatives for Women, who raise awareness of issues which threaten the safety and dignity of women.

So the left wingers feel impotent and the only thing left is to spew out hatred on here on a regular basis.

If Labour is so down and out as you say, why do you need to spend your time posting about how awful they are?

Why not instead spread a positive message about successful Tory policies such as cutting International Aid including for sanitation projects in communities where the combined income of 1000s of people is less than the Prime Minster has spent on a few cushions and a wall hanging.

DynamoKev · 28/04/2021 18:39

I detested Maggie Thatcher but did she lie? Not sure, but nothing like Johnson.
Yes she did. She claimed not to talk to terrorists but was secretly talking to the IRA. Ironically Corbyn was later taken to task over meetings with IRA figures - at least he never sought to cover it up!
She lied about the Belgrano; and plenty more.

SweetPetrichor · 28/04/2021 18:41

All politicians lie. I don’t like him but I don’t think he’s doing anything unusual.

DynamoKev · 28/04/2021 19:13

@Bearnecessity

Dynamo.....you literally make no sense....
I literally do.
Clavinova · 28/04/2021 19:17

KinseyWinsey
Not to mention leaving his cancer stricken wife for his affair partner.

Marina Wheeler was diagnosed with cancer in May 2019 (and given the 'all clear' in August 2019). She separated from Boris Johnson the year before - in the summer of 2018 - and obtained her decree nisi in divorce proceedings before her cancer diagnosis.

Bearnecessity · 28/04/2021 19:21

Of course you do Dynamo 🤦‍♀️