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AIBU to expect a teacher (primary) to know my DC DOB and congratulate on the day?

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LardiLaLardiLi · 22/04/2021 21:19

My DS had a birthday today and his teacher hasn't said anything. I'm not sure if it's a done thing to congratulate kids in class on their birthday, though. It was when I was in school (different country). He said the school didn't know it was his BD today (he was there since nursery) and he said it didn't bother him, but he's quite shy and difficult to read, so I think he was hurt but wouldn't admit it.
WIBU to expect a teacher to say "Happy Birthday"? And would you drop a line to the teacher to remind them?

OP posts:
daiawndiolch · 23/04/2021 21:12

@Mayra1367

😂😂😂 Go on , email the teacher , it’ll give all the staff a laugh at breaktime 😂😂
This 😂
parsnipsnotsprouts · 23/04/2021 21:12

You give them a badge. My dd usually wears at least three and refuses to take them off for a week. You also send Haribo or similar in for them to give out. So really this is your fault

Cipot · 23/04/2021 21:15

I know which teachers I'd rather my DC have.

Imapotato · 23/04/2021 21:15

If you don’t send them with badges and sweets they won’t know, nor would I expect them to.

Cipot · 23/04/2021 21:18

So what about DC who don't have parents like that? Some on the care register for example?

kent1991 · 23/04/2021 21:24

Im a teacher of young children and try REALLY hard to remember. However teachers still are human and if you have a busy week, work personal pressure you might not check your birthday list everyday. Some children will say but if theyre shy giving them a birthday badge is very helpful! Ive never not made a fuss of a kid when ive known it was not their birthday...badge as a visual clue helps us!

MsTSwift · 23/04/2021 21:29

My kids teachers had a month chart on the wall with every kids birthday on it and good way of learning the months. There are easier ways than having to remember 30 flipping individual birthdays - I struggle with 5 nieces and nephews!

Pinkfluff76 · 23/04/2021 21:38

Wow OP I’ve only read the first page of the thread and am horrified at how rude people are! You’re paying massive school fees and there are only twelve in the class, I think it’s really bad and really sad that nothing was said or done. So sorry for your child. Hell yes the teacher should know. My kids have 30 in a class and they get wished and pre covid the class sang to them. Hope your child had a good day despite and please ignore all the rude people!

murakamilove · 23/04/2021 21:39

As a former primary school teacher I’ve always known when birthdays are and make the effort to recognise them.

waitingpatientlyforspring · 23/04/2021 21:42

My dc's school had photos up with the date within the month for every child's birthday and they got a sticker on their birthday. I didn't expect it or would have been bothered if they didn't recognise the date though.

Supergirl1958 · 23/04/2021 21:46

@fairyannie

I wrote birthday cards for every child in the class (those who celebrate) when I got my class list towards the end of summer term and wrote each birthday in my diary. They were kept in a drawer in class.

I was overlooked as a child when it was my birthday as it had fallen on the day before start of Autumn term. The headteacher who did birthday celebrations on a Friday didn't even mention me. Only happened once but I remember it very clearly.

I loved to make a fuss of each child when it was their special day. (Weekend birthdays were celebrated on the Friday before.)

Never ate the birthday cake brought in though 😬🤢. It went to the birds.

My birthday was/is always at whit and I was never celebrated!!! It doesn’t bother me, I don’t like the attention. This year it so happens that two of my pupils have the same birthday. Every year I take in cake when it’s my birthday. If they want me to celebrate their birthdays I do!! If they don’t l, I don’t, but I don’t have a list of birthdays. The pupils and I who share a birthday are on countdown. We talk about it everyday because it’s important to them! In the same way talking about the weekend football, or the film they watched is, or their trip to the seaside was! Birthdays are not the be all and end all, but they aren’t not celebrated!!
TaVeryMuchLove · 23/04/2021 21:48

It’s a well known fact that teachers spend hours studying their pupils’ birthdays in preparation for the year.

.......Please.

Supergirl1958 · 23/04/2021 21:51

@TaVeryMuchLove

It’s a well known fact that teachers spend hours studying their pupils’ birthdays in preparation for the year.

.......Please.

😂😂👏👏 if like to propose an argument...what’s more important to parents. Providing a balanced education that considers everything including well being and mental health...or remembering the whole classes birthdays by heart...as a teacher I didn’t go to uni to be made to feel guilty about forgetting a child’s birthday!!!
Littlescottiedog · 23/04/2021 22:03

I was a mainstream primary teacher for a decade.

  1. I sometimes had a birthdays display (usually when teaching EYFS or KS1) but in the mornings would be too busy setting up for the day to remember to check it.
  1. When you're doing a time-sensitive register on a system like SIMS it's not that easy to check for birthdays.
  1. Usually children reminded you it was their/ their friend's birthday or the adult might give you a bag of something to be handed out at the end of the day.

With this in mind, I would never not sing happy birthday once I knew and wish them well, but there would be no special treats like choosing a present or having a breaktime party. This is because I think a happy acknowledgement and song is just fine and a child doesn't need to be bought something to feel as though they are valued. But also, for those children who don't get those treats (I've taught Jehovah's Witness children) it can be unfair.

My birthday always falls in the summer holidays. I have only twice in my 42 years had a party where there was more than about 4 guests (usually sibling/ cousins/neighbours). Once was the evening before our GCSE results when I knew people would be around (2-3 weeks after my birthday) and once when I planned it for a month before as it was a big birthday.

Everyone is always on holiday on my birthday. It can be fucking miserable and I'm so glad big birthday things at school weren't the norm when I was younger. Yes, I was never at school on my birthday, but honestly, I'd have preferred a term-time birthday where I got a fuss made on the actual day/got to wear my own clothes/be front of the line/choose a present and then, on the weekend afterwards, had a big party where all my friends came. Instead, I rarely got cards/presents from friends as they were on holiday and to mention it either a couple of weeks before or afterwards always seemed grabby.

This trend continues to this day. Any birthday I want to celebrate generally is a small family affair. If I'm lucky I'll have a couple of friends come along too but that's it.

Yes, I'm bitter. Yes, it still hurts. Yes, I'm aware I sound completely immature. But my daughter's birthday is Boxing Day and I just know that she is going to suffer in the same way as people are busy for Christmas and no-one is ever going to come to a party on her actual birthday. I am fully expecting everyone, teachers included, not to wish her happy birthday either before or after the holiday. Because people get busy and actually have other things to think about.

All this fuss over a teacher not remembering a birthday? Yes, it would have been good if they'd remembered or been reminded, but it was probably an honest mistake, not done because they don't like children or value your child.

Sorry for the rant but some of the replies on here about how above and beyond some teachers go for term-time birthdays or some people expect teachers to go for their child's birthday have completely triggered me!!

Stepping away from the Internet for a bit now...!

fairyannie · 23/04/2021 22:10

@TaVeryMuchLove

It’s a well known fact that teachers spend hours studying their pupils’ birthdays in preparation for the year.

.......Please.

It didn't take hours .... (dot. dot. dot. dot.)

🙄 🤨

TaVeryMuchLove · 23/04/2021 22:13

@fairyannie I guess you don’t teach as many pupils as I do!

🙄😕

fairyannie · 23/04/2021 22:21

[quote TaVeryMuchLove]@fairyannie I guess you don’t teach as many pupils as I do!

🙄😕[/quote]
On average 30.

Quite an onerous task, once a year, 30 cards.

Or I could be awkward and say 'No birthdays in this class.' and refuse to allow children to hand out stuff they've brought in for their classmates - tell them to go off premises to do it.

TaVeryMuchLove · 23/04/2021 22:21

@Supergirl1958

Agree completely!

fairyannie · 23/04/2021 22:23

@murakamilove

As a former primary school teacher I’ve always known when birthdays are and make the effort to recognise them.
Agree completely.
MsTSwift · 23/04/2021 22:28

Little your post is slightly insane. The gist is because your own birthday (you being an adult!) is in August you make a point of not marking any of your young pupils birthdays?! Very odd!

No one is expecting teachers to take the whole class to pizza express on them but a class happy birthday or when I was a kid a plaster of Paris fair birthday cake is well a nice thing if you are 6 and it’s your birthday!

fairyannie · 23/04/2021 22:36

@MsTSwift

Little your post is slightly insane. The gist is because your own birthday (you being an adult!) is in August you make a point of not marking any of your young pupils birthdays?! Very odd!

No one is expecting teachers to take the whole class to pizza express on them but a class happy birthday or when I was a kid a plaster of Paris fair birthday cake is well a nice thing if you are 6 and it’s your birthday!

Agree completely.

What's wrong with remembering birthdays 🤔

Jamboree01 · 23/04/2021 22:39

@ilovesooty

I'm having difficulty taking this seriously.
This.

You are being utterly ridiculous never mind unreasonable

TaVeryMuchLove · 23/04/2021 22:40

**Or I could be awkward and say 'No birthdays in this class.' and refuse to allow children to hand out stuff they've brought in for their classmates - tell them to go off premises to do it.

Yeah, you could do that if you wanted to. Go for it.

It’s not what I would do. I don’t discourage anyone from celebrating their birthdays in my classes - I just don’t personally know when every students birthday is.

fairyannie · 23/04/2021 22:46

@TaVeryMuchLove

**Or I could be awkward and say 'No birthdays in this class.' and refuse to allow children to hand out stuff they've brought in for their classmates - tell them to go off premises to do it.

Yeah, you could do that if you wanted to. Go for it.

It’s not what I would do. I don’t discourage anyone from celebrating their birthdays in my classes - I just don’t personally know when every students birthday is.

Possibly .... dot dot dot dot

I may 'Go for it' 🤔

Or .... dot dot dot dot

I might not 🤪

Butwasitherdriveway · 23/04/2021 23:08

@LardiLaLardiLi

My DS had a birthday today and his teacher hasn't said anything. I'm not sure if it's a done thing to congratulate kids in class on their birthday, though. It was when I was in school (different country). He said the school didn't know it was his BD today (he was there since nursery) and he said it didn't bother him, but he's quite shy and difficult to read, so I think he was hurt but wouldn't admit it. WIBU to expect a teacher to say "Happy Birthday"? And would you drop a line to the teacher to remind them?
Not in a million years! And no of course she shouldn't know.

Bizarre premise anyway as most of my kids tell me if it's their granny's birthday let alone their own