to not beleive that a women not breast feed is selfish and using 'i couldnt' as an excuse?

[aleciawalton]

im a mum of 1 who bf till 15 months, and now pregnant with second and will bf. i also am a breast friend and took training to support mums who are bfeeding. ( learned how milk is produced, history, attachment...)

i just think that too many women use 'i couldnt bf' as an excuse. its only been in the last 50 to 60 years bottles and formula have been around. what happened back then??? did more then 50% of the babys die? no cuase back then 99% women breast fed! why could they do it then and not now???
i just feel it a cop out and the mums are just being selfish.
yes its hard, but so was labour, so raising a kid. however they choise to have the baby. i know it takes time and comittment and not having that all important wine drink. but i personaly think that its for how long??? if i can give my child the best start and yes it can take a year or 2 but is my child not worth it??
if some one said to you while prego you have a choise to either have your baby and make your child as healthy as it can be or just have the baby, what would you want? why do we give the baby vitamine K, if not to help the baby be healthy. would you not get your baby vaccinated?

sorry just makes me mad. when i hear my nipples hurt and thats cant be normal so i stopped. or babys 3 weeks old and wanted feeding all the time so it ment i didnt have enough milk so i stopped. or there's a xmas party i want to go to so im not going to bf. the exuces go one. i really love the one 'bf is not natural, its disusting'. WTF were breast made for then and why does milk come out of them???

??? Are you looking for a fight?

I breastfed ds1 to 13 months
I breastfed ds2 for over 2 years
I couldn't breastfeed ds3- I would have if I could have, I couldn't. Don't be so judgemental because you've managed 15 months with one kid, Big wow. People have different lives, with different problems and different issues. Most want the best for their child- sometimes that means balancing choices.

This has got to be a joke right???

'old me pie....
it's gonna kick off

OMG
you are wrong to throw comments like that around very wrong
i bf my dd for 6weeks I COULD NOT bf any longer as i was physically sick and dd was not gaining enough weight even when i fed more often
it was not just any easy option

Try doing a little bit of research before posting complete rubbish. Not being able to BF is not that unusual: before formula wealthy women hired wet nurses, poor women sometimes were able to get help feeding from friends or family members, otherwise babies just died.

The bottom line is, of course, that unless they have actually consulted you for advice, what other women do regarding BF or not BF their babies is none of your fucking business.

follow this link and watch the video carefully, it may give you the answers to your questions

Well perhaps you would like to see my right nipple, massive crack from attempting to BF DS1 after 2 weeks in SCBU where I had to express as he was too poorly to feed from me.

Turfed out of hospital with NO SUPPORT, I tried to establish BF but after he sicked up BRIGHT RED BLOOD from the crack enough was enough.

This was nearly eight years ago and the memory remains very clear.

Instead of criticising people's choices why not try to help them?

Oh silly me, you already do

I would comment but I am still trying to decipher the thread title

I think you are right in some cases alecia. It's certainly said far too often. < Quickfire caveat> Obviously there are some women who genuinely couldn't and had problems and this was very distressing for them etc etc etc.

You're a braver woman than I to say it though as there's nothing so inflammatory as a breastfeeding thread on MN.

So I will wish you the very best of luck and go to bed.

Please please don't get sucked in. someone is rubbing their hands with glee over this.

As for the OP, use the search engine and come back when you have read more about the real reasons some women stop breastfeeding, or don't even try.

We'll see you when you have done that ... 2011 suit you?

and we're off!
really, though, what a supercilious, patronising, judgemental, ill-informed, naive, thoroughly nasty load of old cockwad
balls to her

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Are you expecting a rush of women just dying to make their excuses and beg for forgiveness??

I didn't BF - I feel not one tiny bit of guilt. And I certainly don't feel the need to explain myself to you or anyone else.

How odd that that you feel so angry about this.

Reading your thread title (the way it is actually written) I would say no.

Reading your post I would say, walk a mile in the shoes of someone who has severe breastfeeding difficulties, and then comment. And then pray that next time it isn't you.

I personally have breasts because I don't like direct male eye contact, but a concede I am in a minority.

oh dear. a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

unfortunately, not only is it dangerous for her, but also for the poor women she's breast "chums" with

And you're a "breast friend " are you aleciawalton? You sound terribly kind and helpful - you obviously have a real empathy with new mothers.

will you be my breast friend minimou?

op has gone, op has gone, probably to wash her wooden spoon...

I wouldn't like to have you as a 'Breast friend' - imagine if someone asked you for advice who was struggling with breastfeeding?

I am passionate about breastfeeding but having had a perfectly healthy baby who just would not latch on after tying everything (3 weeks cup-feeding,help and advice from breastfeeding counsellors, sheer bloody hard work, even re-birthing her in the birth pool at hospital in a hope it would waken her breastfeeding instincts) - I can never judge someone who has tried to breastfeed and not managed it. And inspite of the figures quoted, I know i'm not alone - of my NCT ante-natal group of 8, 4 of us could not breastfeed from the begining and we did give up easily and all had support.

As a breast friend the first thing you need is compassion and empathy - not judgement.

I too have trained to be a peer breastfeeding supporter and although I'm lucky enough to have been able to breastfeed dd2 I try to show support to all mums, whatever decisions they make about feeding.

I got sucked in

What a stupid OP!

Perhaps if you were to take your head out of your bottom you might see that the world out there isn't all black and white!

Like you I had a breeze of a time, exclusively breast feeding my DD - then blow me - disaster struck - for all kinds of reasons with DS!

Perhaps a more pertinent question might be, 'to not beleive(sic) that a woman not spell or punctuate is stupid and using 'i couldnt'(sic or sick I'm not sure) as an excuse?'

I wouldn't presume to judge you on your lack of basic grammar nor would I judge a mother who asserts that they could not breastfeed their baby. I suggest you might just reflect a little on the kind of human decency that makes the world a more pleasant place to live - and dig deep into your bottom to see if you can find some!

sorry, should read 'did NOT give up easily' - shouldn't have posted as let's face it, we all know the OP is a nutter anyway.