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Partner only notices how much I do when I stop doing it

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WorkingStepMum90 · 20/04/2021 15:26

Hi All,

I've just had a blazing row with my SO around (surprise surprise!) housework. We went out for a walk and I made a comment about how I feel proud that I'm finally getting myself back into a routine. Like many others, I found the second lock-down extremely difficult. I had taken on my first management level role, signed up to an 18 month apprenticeship and had to juggle this with looking after my two step children. I also lost my Nan very recently who was a huge part of my life. It was just a lot and admittedly, my once regimented cleaning routine took a bit of a backseat.

When I mentioned how I thought this was going well, his response was "Yes, it's amazing how if you don't stay on top of the housework everything else seems to fall apart too." (meaning cooking, working out, shopping etc.) I'm not sure if I'm being overly sensitive here, but I was expecting something a little more supportive so my feelings were quite hurt. Firstly because I wouldn't have said things have 'fell apart' as such, I just had to make housework less of a priority with everything else we have going on. Secondly, it's as if these two months of taking a step back somehow discredits the fact that in the 5 years we have been together I have always worked my socks off to have an immaculate home, a fresh meal on the table every night as well as having a career of my own.

Admittedly, I did get my back up a bit and said that if it's fallen apart since I've taken a step back then maybe this shows that I'm not the problem, as if everyone else was pulling their weight there wouldn't be this stark difference. I immediately regretted biting because he then proceeded to make the conversation about how he cleans the bathroom every week. Firstly, he doesn't- but we won't go into that haha. But even if he did, that is barely the tip of the iceberg in a 5 bedroom house that two kids live in. However, the thing that really annoyed me about this was that he tried to turn the conversation around so that he was the victim and it was me that never thanked him for helping with the chores.

Am I being completely unreasonable here in thinking that he is not 'helping' me with the chores so doesn't deserve praise for it anymore than I do? This is his house too and we all live here so why should I have to praise him every time he changes a bin liner or wipes a surface over? I don't want to go as far in saying he is sexist, because I don't necessarily believe he is like this because I'm female. I just think he's grown very accustomed to me doing everything and interprets my recent behaviour as laziness.

How can I explain to my SO that I'm not a robot that runs at 100% every day. I am a human being who has had an extremely challenging couple of months and he needs to either accept that the housework is not a priority at the moment, step up and do it himself or hire a cleaner.

I know this is such a cliche argument and realise what a crap feminist I am, but I honestly have no idea how I can resolve this without apologising for something that I don't think I should be apologising for.

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osbertthesyrianhamster · 20/04/2021 16:54

[quote WorkingStepMum90]@osbertthesyrianhamster Yes, we are joint owners.Yes, there's an 11 year age gap so when we moved in together, he already had a deposit which we used for the house but agreed I would pay more off of the mortgage each month to off-set that.

He's not my first relationship, I had a serious relationship before I met him but it was abusive. My SO has never so much as raised his voice at me but we bicker a lot about the workload in the house & money.[/quote]
Working, you have found a different type of abuser. Very common for someone coming from one abusive relationship to move to another type.

He is SERIOUSLY using you and gaslighting you. He found you at a time when you were quite young. Again, men like this target vulnerable women.

Please, please, please ready Wifework, also Why Does He Do That?, Living with a Dominator and do the Freedom Programme.

Bickering about money. Let me guess, he's tight with money as well as sexist?

You deserve way more than this person. WAY, way more.

molojoko · 20/04/2021 16:56

You're the maid. I'm sorry. It's hard when you realise. You're not really a person to him. Just a drudge there to serve him.

WorkingStepMum90 · 20/04/2021 16:59

@osbertthesyrianhamster how the hell did you know he was tight with money? I joke about this with my sister all of the time! Are these men manufactured my Mattel or something?

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ElizabethTudor · 20/04/2021 17:00

But I deal with all of the things like cooking their meals, changing their beds, tidying their bedrooms etc. I do all the Christmas/Birthday shopping and parties as well as anything ad hoc like Halloween or World Book Day Costumes. Don't get me wrong, I do find this fun but it's also quite stressful to manage along on top of everything else

You say you enjoy cooking, so fine.
Changing their beds / tidying their rooms - providing they’re not tiny why aren’t they doing that. Or at least helping you? You’re not the skivvy of the bloody house.
I also like the list that a PP suggested upthread. To see what chores you and the fella have done each day. And then he can be allocated more. Plus you can get everyone involved - inc the kids when they’re there. Allocate everyone chores.

username12345T · 20/04/2021 17:02

the house is unloved Grin Does he tap you on the head when he says that? Like he's trying to get the maidbot to get working again.

He really has it made. He's saving on maintenance, got you running around after his children, got you paying more of the mortgage, shirts ironed, place spick and span, you running the place - he just has to put his feet up (to let you run the hoover under them).

osbertthesyrianhamster · 20/04/2021 17:02

[quote WorkingStepMum90]@osbertthesyrianhamster how the hell did you know he was tight with money? I joke about this with my sister all of the time! Are these men manufactured my Mattel or something?[/quote]
Believe it or not, Working, this type of man is very common. VERY. Goes hand in hand with sexism, entitlement, gaslighting and emotional abuse (financial abuse is a form of domestic violence).

He found you when you were what, 25? Coming out of an abusive relationship? Very classic. He targeted and groomed you and you were vulnerable.

This NEVER gets better. EVER. He is wasting your time and using you.

You poor thing! I have a daughter and live in fear she'll get hooked by a total twat like this.

WorkingStepMum90 · 20/04/2021 17:03

@ElizabethTudor It's funny you should say that, I suggested they learned to change their own beds as they are 9 and 12 now, but even my therapist said it's unreasonable to expect children to change a bed.

I think that was a really smart suggestion too- I actually have one of those Mrs Hinch little book of lists so I have months worth of data already haha

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osbertthesyrianhamster · 20/04/2021 17:05

[quote WorkingStepMum90]@ElizabethTudor It's funny you should say that, I suggested they learned to change their own beds as they are 9 and 12 now, but even my therapist said it's unreasonable to expect children to change a bed.

I think that was a really smart suggestion too- I actually have one of those Mrs Hinch little book of lists so I have months worth of data already haha[/quote]
Your therapist needs sacked, too Hmm. My 12-year-old changes his bed and he has autism, ADHD and OCD.

Your situation is really unfunny. You're being terribly used here. Also really hope if you want your own children you get away from this man all the faster. He's a wrong 'un entirely.

AOwlAOwlAOwl · 20/04/2021 17:09

[quote WorkingStepMum90]@osbertthesyrianhamster Yes, we are joint owners.Yes, there's an 11 year age gap so when we moved in together, he already had a deposit which we used for the house but agreed I would pay more off of the mortgage each month to off-set that.

He's not my first relationship, I had a serious relationship before I met him but it was abusive. My SO has never so much as raised his voice at me but we bicker a lot about the workload in the house & money.[/quote]
This relationship is abusive too I'm afraid.

Nannying for someone else's kids, paying more off the mortgage for a house that you're only a quarter occupying. I bet you go 50:50 on the bills as well when it's his kids that run up the electric, food and phone bills.

Move out and get your mortgage payments back off the sponger.

KatherineSiena · 20/04/2021 17:12

If the children are too young to change their bedding (& in my view they aren’t) then their father should do it. I think you need to decide which household tasks really bother you not being done & crack on with them. If you like cooking, do that. But you really need to assert yourself, you should not be doing all the chores, childcare etc on top of external employment.

Longer term you really need to assess what you’re getting out of this arrangement because on the face of it, not much. It’s very easy to see what your DP gets, you’re a paying skivvy.

EscapeDragon · 20/04/2021 17:13

However the thing that really annoyed me about this was that he tried to turn the conversation around so that he was the victim and it was me that never thanked him for helping with the chores.

Helping? Helping?

Ask him since when did all domestic chores become your responsibility, and he merely 'helps' you out? And expect to be thanked for it as well. Bloody cheek.

PickAChew · 20/04/2021 17:23

You are basically maid 2.0.

Phineyj · 20/04/2021 17:27

Gosh, if someone were looking after my children that much unpaid, I hope I'd be incredibly grateful, not bitching about housework!

You are obviously a kind person who doesn't want the DC to miss out (the Easter eggs) and they will notice that and remember that - even if if doesn't dawn on them till later.

But you keep adding 'haha'. There's nothing funny about being exploited.

MinnieMountain · 20/04/2021 17:34

Imagine a life without him. How does it feel?

FOJN · 20/04/2021 17:35

Would you have opted for a 5 bed house if he didn't have 2 children? It's remarkable that he's persuaded you to pay more for the mortgage in the name of fairness because of his deposit. He could have ring fenced it if he was that concerned, I really hope he didn't do that too. If only he could apply the principle of fairness to domestic work.

He won't change no matter what you say, it's an ingrained attitude. Being taken for granted might annoy you now but it will utterly wear you down if you get married and have children of your own with him. Is this the life you want for yourself? I bet his first wife was glad to get rid of him.

amarya · 20/04/2021 17:36

Please tell me the house is in both your names and you aren't just contributing to the mortgage?

stackemhigh · 20/04/2021 17:39

Argh feeling so angry for you OP.

Why are you doing all the housework and looking after his kids?!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 20/04/2021 17:39

I have to admit the mortgage payment inequality bothers me.

He has ring fenced his deposit but also persuaded you to pay more off the mortgage. Presumably because you benefit from his deposit, will get an enhanced growth %, you have a bigger house, that you wouldn't need if it weren't for his kids.

Basically he has his financial cake and is eating it.

Rethink required OP!

frazzledasarock · 20/04/2021 17:43

Why is he helping When you’re, paying the bulk of the housing, looking after, homeschooling (during lockdown) and paying for his children?

Why do you find any of this funny?

Stop overpaying the mortgage. Split mortgage payments 50:50, he pays for treats for his kids. If he forgets and they miss out that on their parents.

Split bills 70:30 you paying less as your P as using up more resources in the home having his kids live their too.

I’d dump him.

Cannot believe you think it’s at all normal or reasonable to be paying more than this twat in bills, whilst doing all the housework, admin and childcare and you occupy the least of the house.

I’m seriously getting myself a wife.

If you’re sensible you’ll speak to a solicitor get you’re share of the house equity and move out.

You’ll find the workload and stress disappears once you do that.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 20/04/2021 17:49

It's threads like this that make me seriously wonder why people express sympathy when I say I'm single.

OP he's got a right cushy number hasn't he. Gets his kids half the time but his RoboMaid (you) does all the hard work as well as cooking and cleaning. And he gets to make you feel like you should be glad if it.

Wake up. Walk away. No woman needs this shit

Comtesse · 20/04/2021 17:51

Who did all the home schooling when the schools were shut? Hope it wasn’t you OP....

Quincie · 20/04/2021 17:51

I immediately regretted biting because he then proceeded to make the conversation about how he cleans the bathroom every week.

OMG that would have me packing my bags, what an arrogant, ignorant, pompous, lazy, selfish OLD git.

WorkingStepMum90 · 20/04/2021 17:53

@frazzledasarock let me just set the record straight, I absolutely do not find any of this funny or condone his behaviour. I thought I made it clear in the original post, but clearly the 'haha' has struck a cord with come people. It's a nervous habit- if I don't laugh I'll cry!

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ILoveShula · 20/04/2021 17:54

wombatgoeswild
Yep, you're doing all the mental load stuff. He's found himself a housekeeper & a nanny.
osbertthesyrianhamster
Who pays her own way, pays for his kids and shares his bed, too!

Wonder why he is divorced.

They are not your stepchildren, they are your partner's children.

He should not be helping, he should be doing his share.

Bin him. He'll probably not want children with you, if that is important to you.

WorkingStepMum90 · 20/04/2021 17:54

@Comtesse It was me, but I was furloughed and he wasn't.

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