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India Knight

323 replies

Bitofanexpert · 20/04/2021 10:41

I take it mentioning her or her partner is banned.

Can I just say how utterly disgusted I am from learning about the actions of her partner on here- and nearly just as much from the lack of reporting of this by the press and on here too? Disgraceful. The man still has the gall to have a live Twitter account!!!

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NorksFromThaNorth · 23/04/2021 13:37

How worrying that the paedophile husband has a vulnerable teenage daughter who lived with him. wouldn't IK be worried about that?

KeyboardWorriers · 23/04/2021 13:56

[quote NorksFromThaNorth]@Xenia you really can't just stumble onto child porn via a normal search engine like google. You would have to access the dark web surely?.[/quote]
I am certainly not aware that it is an issue that innocent people generally get junk mail featuring child abuse videos!

Plus I am fairly sure, if he were an unfortunate innocent "victim" in the way implied by Xenia, that IK and her journalist chums would be making sure this was being shouted about in the media.

ReadingIsFundamental · 23/04/2021 20:24

I used to quite like India Knight and her female gang on Twitter back at the time that Caitlin Moran, Grace Dent, Sali Hughes and India Knight used to spend hours on there (2010, I’d guess) I remember being quite surprised when I found out that she was in a relationship with the MP who head-butted another MP in the Commons Bar.

Then he was convicted of another violent act against 2 teens, and then it came out that he’d been in a relationship with a 17yo when he was 49.

Surely, most women would think about walking away from their partner if they did any of those things, no? But for him to do all three and have his partner stand by him means I seriously question her judgement.

Then he gets convicted of the most horrifying crime and her relationship with him is used as a reason for him not to go to jail? That’s just disgusting. She is free to live her life as she chooses and make bad decisions about staying with a violent sex offender, but it’s completely inappropriate for her to have a national platform telling all of us plebs how best to live our lives and where to spend our money. Frankly, she has plenty of money and security, it’s time for her to retire.

TartanPunk · 23/04/2021 21:22

What a vile pair. Also cancelling subscription to The Times.

Alsohuman · 23/04/2021 21:55

@Pottedpalm

Are all these threads about India Knight started bu the same person?
Is that relevant?
Pebble21uk · 23/04/2021 22:02

When you cancel your subscription to The Times, is there any way of making it known why?

WhiskersPete · 23/04/2021 22:31

I had no idea. What a pair of fucking scumbags. The media silence on this is astounding. If you Google her there's no mention of it.

bohemia88 · 23/04/2021 22:37

I'm not defending her at all - I cancelled my Times subscription last year after complaining about how the coverage wasn't in the first few pages as you would have expected it to be - but if you Google India Knight it's mentioned on her Wikipedia profile.

The court case wasn't covered up. It was reported by broadsheets and tabloids. Just not as near the front as you might have expected it to be, if India Knight's stepfather wasn't a director of News Corporation. Absolutely disgraceful.

JackieLavertysWeirdVoice · 24/04/2021 07:49

@Pebble21uk

When you cancel your subscription to The Times, is there any way of making it known why?
Yes, when DP cancelled his the bloke he spoke to asked if he might enquire as to why.
Ihatesalad · 24/04/2021 18:28

I am actually utterly baffled at India— (and in all fairness I admit I quite liked her writing) but supporting him with all this is just beyond the pale— I don’t care how much I ‘loved ‘ someone or how good our relationship was— he would have been gone at the first sniff of this. As someone else said, I couldn’t bear him giving me so much as a cup of tea , never mind having to spend vast amounts of time with him/sleep with him etc. However at the end of the day the actions are his, not hers, so I think any headings should be of the kind ‘why does an intelligent successful woman stay with a complete arse’ — it’s important to stress ‘she’ isn’t the criminal here. Just guilty in my opinion of appalling judgement

Hearnoevilspeaknoevil · 24/04/2021 20:05

I agree to a certain extent @IloveSalad. But what I can't get past is the protection and lack of condemnation for his crime.
She stood by him in court, her statement providing him with a lesser sentence, her influence has taken away scrutiny and further press reporting.
She could have made a difference. As a woman of influence and to a certain extent power (in having a platform) in standing by him, she has sent a dangerous message: that his actions aren't that serious.
That child abuse isn't something we should concern ourselves with. If we don't stand up and be counted when behaviour is plain wrong then there when do we? She's shown no regard for the victims at all and for that I'm afraid I do judge her.

I reserve my sympathy and sorrow for the children he watched.
He's utterly vile, irredeemable really, but there's no onus on him to make good with her wealth and status at his side.

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Pottedpalm · 24/04/2021 20:37

I’m interested to know.
At least one previous thread on this topic was deleted.

Irishterrier · 24/04/2021 21:27

I agree @Hearnoevilspeaknoevil

What struck me most was the gobsmacking egomania of her tweet when she said it's been a tough couple of years but I'm fine now.

Staggering.

PandoraP · 24/04/2021 23:01

I also need to cancel my ST and tell them why. I refuse to read her columns. Awful scumbags

Loveistheonlyway · 25/04/2021 00:01

Omg, really shocked.

Yes definitely ring and cancel telling them why. I no longer have a subscription but would be cancelling if I still did have.

Christ just appalling.

southeastdweller · 25/04/2021 08:51

Even the breezy tone in her tweet today ("Morning!") makes me shudder.

Bouledeneige · 25/04/2021 09:25

I recently read an article about Andrew O'Hagen which mentioned that his 16 yr old daughter now lives with him as her mother is India Knight and with Eric Joyce who was convicted for owning child pornography. It actually didn't really fit with the flow of the article but I was glad the journalist mentioned it and didn't sweep it under the carpet. It would be interesting to know what Andrew thinks a bout his ex-wife's loyalty and the protection of his child.

MrsMackesy · 25/04/2021 11:14

I always have enormous sympathy for those - usually wives, partners or mothers - who are seen as 'guilty by association' because of vile crimes like these committed usually in secret by someone close to them, usually men. The shockwaves hitting every aspect of these innocent women's lives are horrendous. Knight didn't commit these horrific crimes or even aid and abet them as far as we know - Joyce is the guilty one here. However, Knight is not some brave woman trying to rebuild her life in the aftermath of the shock and horror of finding a paedophile in it. She is rebuilding her life with the paedophile still in it, even choosing to live with him over her vulnerable disabled daughter. I would feel exactly the same if Knight was a man and a father. For that reason, whenever I see her name or anything she has written, I will be reminded of Joyce and his perverted crimes. That is the persisting association for me about Knight - that baby and those girls - Joyce's victims. I won't be buying The Times or anything else Knight has written because these are not victimless crimes.

AGirlCalledJohnny · 25/04/2021 19:20

For those who asked, this is my response to her Meat Loaf tweet, I’d totally forgotten I’d had to lock my account because of a creepy stalker “men’s rights” troll, so no one could see it but me Grin

I’ve opened it again but took a screen shot for posterity, assume I’ll be blocked imminently,

India Knight
GlassBoxSpectacular · 25/04/2021 20:01

@AGirlCalledJohnny

For those who asked, this is my response to her Meat Loaf tweet, I’d totally forgotten I’d had to lock my account because of a creepy stalker “men’s rights” troll, so no one could see it but me Grin

I’ve opened it again but took a screen shot for posterity, assume I’ll be blocked imminently,

Brilliant comment! Grin
Wiebsa · 27/04/2021 14:03

I’ve cancelled my Times digital subscription and stated India Knight’s associating with a paedophile as the reason. I felt bad for the young woman who took the cancellation, but she stayed professionally chirpy. I have bought at least two of India’s books in the past but I feel let down by her. I can’t read her anymore, just gives me the ick.

Hearnoevilspeaknoevil · 27/04/2021 16:29

Fantastic response @agirlcalledjohnny

LadyEloise · 27/04/2021 16:35

I think I'm having a deja vu moment.

Wasn't there a thread very, very similar to this on Mumsnet last year ?

I cannot comprehend any woman remaining with a child abuser.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 27/04/2021 16:42

I don't think it's misogyny to point out the misogyny of those women who cheer on the vilest of men.

YY. Best comment on the whole thread.

I find it interesting that it's very often the NAMALTs and defenders of abusive men who are the most vociferously hateful to other women. Seen it time and time again on this site.

SecretWitch · 27/04/2021 16:43

Gross. I will judge and hold accountable any woman who makes the conscious decision to support and stay with a paedophile.