To think thst this is too early a bedtime for a 3.7 yo?

[Bbq1]

I know somebody who is putting their 3.7 yr old to bed at 6pm. Child is waking at 5am. I'm not surprised as my own ds went to bed around 6.45 at almost 4. Aibu to think this is a very early bedtime and the likely cause of the early waking?

@KoalaOok

Pumperthepumper a lot can change in a month though. There might be a 3 year 8 month sleep regression.

Laughed out loud 😂😂😂😂.

@KoalaOok

Pumperthepumper a lot can change in a month though. There might be a 3 year 8 month sleep regression.

Or the 3 year 7 month sleep regression. Or the 3 year 9 month sleep regression.

That philosophy is nowhere near accurate enough to pinpoint the exact month for every child.

@KoalaOok @Pumperthepumper honestly. Too funny. At least you get it and I'm not going mad 😂😂😂.

1 - it's none of your business

2 - maybe she needs to get up at 5am? My DD has to get Up at 6am as I work full time and she goes to a before school childminder so she goes to bed at 7pm. I get my newborn twins Up at 5am so they are fed before I drop DD off? I don't give a shit what time other parents put their kids to bed (unless it's the neighbours next door whose primary school age kids regularly seem to go to sleep close to midnight)

3 - why can you just say 3 and a half?

4 - it's none of your business

@Pumperthepumper in fairness though I've never seen age given with a decimal and it was the comment about maths not being my strong point when I pointed out .7 would be out of 10 not 12 haha. So funny though.

[quote Jumpers268]@thebillyotea bizarre snobbery in this country? What? Like I want my son to wake up at 5am? If I could get him to sleep until 8am.... Ahhhhh if only. I've done months of later bedtimes and then have to deal with an overtired arsehole child. I am not an early riser. Cor 7am is a lie in in my house! The bright mornings and people out in the gardens past 6pm don't make a difference to my life. Black out blinds & black out blinds and the child can sleep through an earthquake. Yet still wakes up at 5am. Even with clock changes etc.[/quote]
Two of mine were exactly the same. One of them refused to nap during the day from about 6 months old but is soothed to sleep with fireworks

It’s why I find such joy in advice from parents of sleepers who genuinely think it just hasn’t occurred to you to change things about a bit.

My ds is about rhe same age and I take him up at 7.30pm and he is asleep by 8pm. He wakes at 7am now. Previously it didn't matter what time you put him down he would wake at 5am and my day would start then. He is much better now. Really depends if they have asked for your thoughts, if it works for them fair enough.

Way too early so that'll be why they are getting up at ridiculous o'clock.

We used to put our 3yr old to bed about 8,8.30 max. She's nearly 4 now and it's more like 8.30 on a gd night 9pm often and sometimes later. She just doesn't need as much sleep now 😫 She generally sleeps until 7.30-8.30 in the morning.

Even my 1yr old doesn't go to bed till 7.30pm!

Oh well, never mind. It's many years since my ds was 3 so, in an attempt to help someone close and their lo who I care about a great deal, I thought I would see what an average bedtime is for a 3 year is. However, I have repeatedly been nastily told it's none of my business when I just wanted to have an idea of an average time to offer them some advice and support. Oh well.
Thanks for the posters who genuinely offered helpful advice.

I agree it's early, and 6.45 is too early. I don't understand how people get into this routine, it must start with a super early bedtime as a baby then the early wakings start and it's hard to change the habit. I find people who say 'thsy still wake at 5 whatever time they go to bed' have actually only tried a later bedtime one night here and there,which is not enough to change a sleep habit.

A 6pm bedtime would limit our day massively. We eat dinner at 6. DD sleeps 7.30/8 to 7.30/8am and always has. She goes through phases of waking up early but we stick to the routine and it only lasts a week or so.

@Pumperthepumper literally that! I have no idea how on earth he knows it's 5am. How. How does he knows. Every single day.

@Bbq1

Oh well, never mind. It's many years since my ds was 3 so, in an attempt to help someone close and their lo who I care about a great deal, I thought I would see what an average bedtime is for a 3 year is. However, I have repeatedly been nastily told it's none of my business when I just wanted to have an idea of an average time to offer them some advice and support. Oh well. Thanks for the posters who genuinely offered helpful advice.

It’s for the best though, they won’t thank you for it. Anything you suggest they’ll already have tried, absolutely nobody is delighted to be woken up by a 3.84 year old at 5am every morning.

@Bbq1 if she's struggling there's no harm in suggesting trying a later bedtime to see if it helps. I guess your post doesn't say if she actually is struggling and/or asked for advice. I'm only speaking from bitter experience that a later bedtime makes no difference in my case and I get SO many people say "oh that's an early bedtime, no wonder he wakes up early" and it makes me want to throw something at them (I don't though 😉).

And yeah, 3.7 meant 3 years and 7 months. I see it gave some people lots of laughs for some bizarre reason...whatever you find hilarious...

@Pumperthepumper you are, officially, my sort of person. You've given me so much laugher tonight (in my permanently overtired state 😉).

[quote Jumpers268]@Pumperthepumper you are, officially, my sort of person. You've given me so much laugher tonight (in my permanently overtired state 😉).[/quote]
Ah that’s nice It’s not forever, even though it feels like that now.

@UnbeatenMum - my dh rigged it up when it became really obvious that gro clocks weren’t working

You only have kids who need to go to bed at 6, and wake up at 5, when they are your first or your only.

Can you imagine a family where the older kids are banned from any after school club or afternoon activity because the toddler needs to be in bed at 6?

Funnily enough, when you work or have kids, the youngest adapt very well.

It's a choice. Makes no sense to me, but if people are happy to be up at 5am, who cares.

@Vooga

I agree it's early, and 6.45 is too early. I don't understand how people get into this routine, it must start with a super early bedtime as a baby then the early wakings start and it's hard to change the habit. I find people who say 'thsy still wake at 5 whatever time they go to bed' have actually only tried a later bedtime one night here and there,which is not enough to change a sleep habit.

A 6pm bedtime would limit our day massively. We eat dinner at 6. DD sleeps 7.30/8 to 7.30/8am and always has. She goes through phases of waking up early but we stick to the routine and it only lasts a week or so.

With us it starts with a long commute necessitating an early wake, which in turn wakes the DC.

A friend of mine had a 5am waking DD. Whether she went to bed at 6pm or 8pm, she would 100% be getting up at 5am. The difference would be in her behaviour and mood for the entire day, and I can tell you, if she stayed up later than 6pm, she would be savage the following day

@ToffeePennie that sounds amazing, I'd love to do something like that.

I’m reading this thread with such a wish I had a child that would sleep like that!! I love my 3 year old soooo much but she doesn’t sleep past midnight some times, I always assume it’s because she’s disabled but Christ alive I’d pay a LOT of money for her to sleep til 5am (she usually goes to bed around 7, though with the help of Melatonin).

I find people who say 'thsy still wake at 5 whatever time they go to bed' have actually only tried a later bedtime one night here and there, which is not enough to change a sleep habit.

No, as a baby he went to bed when we did, so fairly late. When he started going to bed in his own room we picked an arbritarty bedtime of 8pm. We had a later bedtime for MOTNHS. Not the odd night here or there, not a week, not two weeks. MONTHS. and all it did is make DS and us grumpy as fuck. Earlier and earlier waking, worse and worse sleep quality. At one point, he was so overtired, he wouldn't go down until gone half 9 (despite the bedtime routine starting at 7.30) and would wake frequently in the night and then be awake and not go back down from about 4.30am. We cut out his nap. we tired him out in the day, we did the sleepy bubble bath. We tried it all. and then, one day a friend said to me "DS goes to bed at 6, that made all the difference to him". We tried it, and BAM, a full night 6pm - 5.30am.

If I’d read a thread like this before ttc I think it would have put me off

I’m not a morning person though

And feeling lucky that both my toddler and baby manage to sleep late if we put them down late and seem happy to adjust to that during the week or weekend

At the moment they both go to bed at 7:30, after dinner. We’ve moved our dinner earlier so we can eat together otherwise i would choose to eat later myself but I certainly wouldn’t be eating at 6 for a 6:30 bedtime

@thebillyotea happy to get up at 5am. You truly have no idea. There are times my 6 year old has no choice but to be in bed past 7:30pm. And he will wake up at 5am. As I've said previously, I have done MONTHS of a bedtime past 7:30pm, because I shitting hate getting up at 5am, and it makes no difference. Please don't be so ignorant and also so dismissive.