Report that says Institutional Racism doesn't exist and more ...

[Dustyboots]

Is no one else angry about this?

I can't find any other threads about it.

What is going on?

And the bit that says the “slave period”, was not just about “profit and suffering” and argues that the era was also about how “culturally African people transformed themselves into a re-modelled African/Britain”.

Are people unaware of this? Or do we just no longer care ...

NiceGerbil
Has the windrush scandal even been mentioned on this thread? How long did that all come out. Couple of years or so?

No mention that I can see.

& yet as you know, Windrush scandal is still ongoing. A scandal that has ruined mental health. Lives. & at least 9 of those deported with their money frozen in UK and no home to go to where they were sent, have either died or are reported missing/can't be traced.

Now there's a Windrush compensation scheme, and moves to return some of the deported back to UK.

But at a convenient time, racist emotive language works doesn't it?

Rile people up with "they don't belong here, send them back!" talk.

Then when the fuss has died down and people forget, quietly set about saying sorry to and throwing lots of money at the very people they scapegoated and ruined the lives of in the first place.

The government and media have done a good job of dog-whistling, and fooling the very people who respond to it.

It seems the Race report also glorified slavery.

Descendants of slave owners have received monetary reparations. Up to 2015 taxes - including taxes paid by descendants of enslaved Africans - went towards these reparations payments.

Descendants of enslaved Africans have received no monetary reparations whatsoever. We are told to "move on".

At this stage those who say the UK isn't racist are being purposely delusional.

@NiceGerbil it’s depressing, do brown & black people really want to separate communication and communities by colour?! I’m not brown so it’s not my place to say, but it kind of feels racist and going backwards?! But of course, people should have whatever community they want, I hope I don’t sound evil!

@NiceGerbil

Has the windrush scandal even been mentioned on this thread? How long did that all come out. Couple of years or so?

Never been particularly 'proud' to be British, but that whole sorry affair makes me feel incredibly ashamed. Not just the scandal itself, which of course is just awful, but the ongoing scandal where an absolute pittance in compensation is being offered to the people who have had a decade of stress, losing citizenship, jobs, pensions, freedom of movement etc. Contrast this tightness, with throwing millions ££££ at friends in Covid contracts, makes me feel sick. The victims of this scandal deserve to be compensated fully and looked after properly now, as some way of apologising in a meaningful way, as they enter old age. Yet our shitty fucking government is trying to withhold this from them.

@DeeCeeCherry ‘At this stage those who say the UK isn't racist are being purposely delusional.’

Yep. Or just conveniently delusional!

Thank you covoid!

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/655401/Report_of_Angiolini_Review_ISBN_Accessible.pdf

Page 83 onwards if anyone wants a read.

This report not only doesn't think that racism is not the reason for 'ethnicity disparities' in outcomes

The commission have some lovely alternative theories for you of why you are to blame

Black people it's absent fathers and single mothers who are ruining your communities. You should be more like South Asian people marry young and stay together. Children need time and attention

But hold on Pakistani and Bangladeshi people it's stay at home mum's ruining your life chances! Too many women in those communities are 'economically inactive'. They must be giving too much time and attention to their children and not getting out there breaking their families out of poverty.

I honestly can't believe this polemic is justified as a 'report'

@Strangeststrangment how can this be allowed? There’s a clear and glaring conflict of interest, no?
How can they just ignore those reports in favour of a biased one??? Am I stupid? I don’t get it!

Charley yes it ruined lives. Absolutely ruined them.

I believe people were deported before it all came out and the govt say no way of finding them

The fact they destroyed all the govt copies of the disembarking cards is unthinkably calculated. The office that held them asked if they were sure.. oh yes. Said the government. Utter bastards.

I think there is far more classism than racism in this country, as per the report.

Racism exists, but all the organisations I've been a part of have gone out of their way to promote equality.

Not acknowledging the improvements in this country w.r.t. racism is liable to backfire. It's like telling a child they are rubbish at a skill they are learning, despite them making significant progress. They just give up and become upset.

People 'accepted' the expenses scandal.
People 'accepted'the Windrush scandal.
People saw for years and years parliament barely having any women or minorities.
I can only conclude people's apathy has been used against them.

I know. And to be picked up and discarded, yet again, after being conned into coming to the UK back in the 50s and 60s with the 'streets are paved with gold' narrative. What a kick in the teeth. So, so awful. Just playing with people's lives.

I was really, really shocked on learning how little compensation the government were offering, because I thought they genuinely wanted to redeem themselves when it was pointed out how racist this 'hostile environment' (can't remember the phrase) actually was. But the squabbling over compensation proves they don't give a shit. They don't care, and they don't care that people know they don't care.

Sorry! My 'I know' was to Nice Gerbil's comment about the Windrush scandal.

There has been progress in racism just like there has been progress on sexism. The more overt stuff is no longer allowed but in neither case have these been eradicated. The more subtle things are still there.
We shouldn't be patting ourselves in the back saying how good we are whilst inequality and discrimination still remains.

As regards class you can change that I think whereas you can't change your race or your sex
I base that on my parents who were born into working class households in which the main breadwinners were a coal miner and a farm labourer but they became middle class professionals after going to university. So I think you can change your class. You shouldn't have to but you can.

Chimeraforce also handily reminding us of the need for a BlackMumsnetters board there

I don't that post dignifies a response.

@CovoidOfAllHumanity

Chimeraforce also handily reminding us of the need for a BlackMumsnetters board there

I don't that post dignifies a response.

I was trying to think of a response, but it would be much better to ignore.

Anyone who thinks Africa's housing is "huts" is so uneducated, there is no point even trying to engage.

Unabashed fools don't realise that colonisers drained African countries of riches resources and people. They simply can't do the maths as to why said countries failed.

Not that we live in huts but it suits them to believe so, then they can say "You don't need reparations!!"

They'd likely be in Africa living in a hut

😆😆 Ignorance becomes you. You just wasted your post with something a 5 year old would say.

Charley I was just. Disgusted. Horrified. Upset. Angry. And ashamed of being English. In a more visceral way than before and we've done a lot of shit.

It was the calculated nature of it. It wasn't a cock up, misunderstanding or beurocracy. It was thought about and planned.

I real point of shame for England imo.

@DeeDeeCherry

Yes, Ethiopia (only non colonised African country) is a good example there.

'Racism exists, but all the organisations I've been a part of have gone out of their way to promote equality.'

All lip service in my experience.

Talking is easier than doing.

'He added: "For just £4m to have been paid out to 338 people, leaving over 1,500 people's claims waiting, is disgraceful and shows how terribly this has been handled.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-55002433

That is an average of just under £12k to the people who have actually received compensation in the Windrush scandal. People whose lives were absolutely ruined.

Up until I believe 2015 we as a collective nation were still compensating former slave owners for their loss of 'property'. Wonder how much I personally have contributed to my freedom :)

Report-

'Family breakdown is one of the main reasons for educational failure and crime, the report says. "Family is also the foundation stone of success for many ethnic minorities," it adds.'

What does bojos family look like FFS. He won't even both confirm how many kids he has, I don't think? He got engaged to his Pg gf before he was divorced from his wife.

They say large numbers of single parent families are... Not good but don't really say why.

It's well known that the mechanism for getting child support off the nrp is useless and the govt don't seem to care. We know that single parent families are more likely to be in poverty... Of course the government don't want to draw attention to that stuff so they do a handwave and say something about 'community help'...

I didn't know that about the compensation.

It was due to the format but still FFS

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_Compensation_Act_1837