Double standards on mn.

[thatwasme22]

This week so far:

1. I have seen various posters defend Caroline Flack for having issues. Maybe she did but then the same argument would not be made on Chris Browne.

1. A thread on the physical attractiveness on male politicians. Imagine a male forum did this on females.

1. A thread with a woman hiding her inheritance from her husband and encouraged to do so by many posters and him being called financially abusive for being sensible over money. When men do this on mn it's all ltb.

Am I missing something? I call myself a feminist so am pro equality and that's how I raised my kids but why is this not being called out on mn?

@Pumperthepumper, most of your posts are massively aggressive as shown above.

Hence the reason I feel no obligation to interact with you. And despite you clearly feeling otherwise, I don't answer to you.

Men get a hard time on here. That's my opinion, and I stand by it. You can think I'm wrong all you like.

@Butwasitherdriveway

Yet more aggressive posts. For as long as this happens to anyone who dares to mention double standards, this issue will continue

There are posts which address specific points robustly, and which are capable of constructing an argument - one based on demonstrable points rather than cheap personal shots - rather than a straw man.

Interesting that those arguments haven't been countered other than by tangential accusations that are completely irrelevant to anything mentioned in that post. I rest my case.

Incidentally, a similar directness of manner in a man - as proven by linguists, men rarely litter their language with apologies or hedging - will rarely be termed 'aggressive'. Deborah Cameron noted this a long time ago.

The patriarchy is strong in this one ...

Mmhm.

Everything to do with patriarchy, and nothing to do with you simply being wrong.

[quote Butwasitherdriveway]@Pumperthepumper, most of your posts are massively aggressive as shown above.

Hence the reason I feel no obligation to interact with you. And despite you clearly feeling otherwise, I don't answer to you.

Men get a hard time on here. That's my opinion, and I stand by it. You can think I'm wrong all you like.[/quote]
Can you quote the aggressive posts? I’d love to see them.

‘Men’ don’t get a hard time on here. That’s a fact, not an opinion.

Your above one was aggressive.

Right.

Ok.

I mean you're totally wrong, but that's fine.

So if it's a fact, men get a good, fair time on all of these threads do they?

@Butwasitherdriveway

Your above one was aggressive.

Right.

Ok.

I mean you're totally wrong, but that's fine.

So if it's a fact, men get a good, fair time on all of these threads do they?

Quote the posts I was aggressive and we’ll see. You can’t, because I wasn’t.

Some posters get a good, fair time, some don’t. Sometimes men come on and get different responses to subjects like sex after childbirth than women would get. Some women get a hard time because they post a reverse and most people on here hate that. ‘Men’ don’t get a hard time for being men.

@Butwasitherdriveway

Your above one was aggressive.

Right.

Ok.

I mean you're totally wrong, but that's fine.

So if it's a fact, men get a good, fair time on all of these threads do they?

Also quite funny that you’ve left it to me to justify the fact when you couldn’t justify your own opinion.

@Butwasitherdriveway

Mmhm.

Everything to do with patriarchy, and nothing to do with you simply being wrong.

✔️ Your most astute observation so far. Top marks! 💯

The statement that men get a hard time on here is not offensive. In the slightest.

No, just wildly inaccurate. But as mentioned upthread it is just one site. It has a predominantly female demographic and some of the issues posted about here are those which primarily affect women.

The idea that debates about abuse of women in particular should be executed with all due caution to pander to the feelings of men is patently absurd. But if this outrageous assumption is too feminist for you, there's a whole cyber world out there full of incels and others who hate and want to harm women, and this is far bigger and broader than anything you could hope to encounter here. Reddit and Twitter should suffice for starters.

@Pumperthepumper
Like the time you said 'it just is' on your own opinion.

I have repeatedly stated I will not be drawn into debate with you. You can try every tactic you like, or indeed believe you've won if you like.

@MarieIVanArkleStinks any debate should see both sides. That's the point of debate.

[quote Butwasitherdriveway]@Pumperthepumper
Like the time you said 'it just is' on your own opinion.

I have repeatedly stated I will not be drawn into debate with you. You can try every tactic you like, or indeed believe you've won if you like.[/quote]
it just is is aggressive?

For all I disagree with the OP and various others on here, at least they’ve been brave enough to argue their point, frustrating though it’s been. Hanging around and egging everyone on while refusing to examine your own bias is so cowardly.

'It just is' was your response to me asking why it's offensive.

I don't care what you think , Pumper. I'm not cowardly, and others aren't brave. That suggests you are somewhat intimidating or scary and we must prove ourselves to you. This is the problem.

This thread is just a three way row now 😂

@Butwasitherdriveway

'It just is' was your response to me asking why it's offensive.

I don't care what you think , Pumper. I'm not cowardly, and others aren't brave. That suggests you are somewhat intimidating or scary and we must prove ourselves to you. This is the problem.

You’ve been all over this thread goading people to make your point for you, because you can’t make it yourself. It’s cowardly, and it’s boring.

So either tell us why you think men get a hard time, or don’t. But don’t expect others to do it for you.

@Pumperthepumper,

If it is a ‘fact’ that men don’t get a hard time on here, why do 65% of respondents think the OP is not being unreasonable, on a site dominated by women?

What is your evidence for this ‘fact’?

[quote TheReluctantPhoenix]@Pumperthepumper,

If it is a ‘fact’ that men don’t get a hard time on here, why do 65% of respondents think the OP is not being unreasonable, on a site dominated by women?

What is your evidence for this ‘fact’?[/quote]
I’ve already said above, I’ll copy it for you:

Some posters get a good, fair time, some don’t. Sometimes men come on and get different responses to subjects like sex after childbirth than women would get. Some women get a hard time because they post a reverse and most people on here hate that. ‘Men’ don’t get a hard time for being men.

Where’s your evidence for your opinion?

@Pumperthepumper,

That is not evidence, just your opinion which, as shown by the voting, is in the minority.

[quote TheReluctantPhoenix]@Pumperthepumper,

That is not evidence, just your opinion which, as shown by the voting, is in the minority.[/quote]
It’s more than you’ve offered.

@Pumperthepumper

Bless you, giving me options of what I can and can't do.

Like I said. Aggressive. The only one goading is yoi. You really can't cope with people not doing as you tell them. It's really quite odd.

Now I've told you I won't be engaging with you, but if you want to continue that's absolutely fine.

[quote Butwasitherdriveway]@Pumperthepumper

Bless you, giving me options of what I can and can't do.

Like I said. Aggressive. The only one goading is yoi. You really can't cope with people not doing as you tell them. It's really quite odd.

Now I've told you I won't be engaging with you, but if you want to continue that's absolutely fine.[/quote]
Yes, you said aggressive but again, couldn’t back it up.

No, I think I’m done. It seems a bit pointless when you’re just here to cheerlead and goad.

@Pumperthepumper

Good! That's what I wanted 5 posts ago.

Stop tagging me then.

Can’t argue with stupid. @thatwasme22

Don’t think there is much else to say!

A thread on the physical attractiveness on male politicians. Imagine a male forum did this on females

You’ve obviously never been on:
Reddit
Any 4Chan
Twitter
Facebook

Or out in the real world ....