I said nothing about rape! I never said NAMALT!
You're referring to a trend of behaviour by women on this site. These threads are the ones where the worst examples of the behaviour YOU are advocating - ie taking issue with those who challenge issues of hegemonic male dominance - therefore I make no apology for citing them. Doubtless you've seen them, as you seem au fait with what you identify as general patterns of behaviour on this site. People on this thread should see precisely the kind of behaviour you are minimising.
some of you are so against men that it must affect the way you treat the men in your life. Including sons. It must.
Your views are ridiculously polarised. It is undeniable that male violence against women, including sexual violence, is endemic. Look at the statistics for yourself. Women are afraid. Women are increasingly saying they don't accept this fate. But the usual suspects come forward to tell us we are man haters who must clearly hate our fathers, husbands and sons. Grip. Get one.
The amount of people mocking men’s feelings when men are just peoples sons.
Remember #MeToo? It involved thousands upon thousands of women, most of who had more than one story to tell about being catcalled, groped, followed, stalked, having their breasts grabbed, strangers turning nasty when their offer of a drink was refused, assault, attack, rape. The people who did this to them were men. They were somebody's sons, too.
How young do you start making them ashamed of their gender? I assume not as a toddler. Teenager? When do you start telling them or showing them that they don’t matter like their sister does?
Your capacity for overreach is really quite remarkable.
This is not about everyone here. Only about the ones who are shouting about men’s feelings not mattering.
Yes, I've seen the 'menz feelz' trope. But I've yet to see this mockery appear on any thread where, for example, a mother posts for advice out of fear for her son's or husband's mental health. Do people laugh and tell him to get a hold of himself and be a 'man?' Of course not. The mockery of mens' feelings occurs in contexts where those feelings are continually being prioritised over women's physical safety. Where we are expected to 'be polite' to ensure their comfort, and to hell with the fact that they are violating our boundaries in the first place. Where we are told we must cede over our rights to men and make room for this infinitely more dominant group in our feminism, otherwise we are not feminists. Refuse, and we are bigots. And these are all factors you've deliberately and disingenuously taken out of context. I'm sure other readers of this thread will see this for what it is.
I’m asking a question here because I am hoping these examples ARE silly and that you mother and care about your children equally. I don’t want to assume the worst about people.
This might sound surprising, but it doesn't matter what strangers on the internet think to other strangers' parenting. Especially when these are people you don't know. And masking this under faux-concern doesn't make it sound any less extraordinary a statement. I could profess equal concern for the children of the 'Not my Nigel' advocates, who are doubtless the reason some of these sons grow up to think they have a right to women's bodies with or without their consent. To bring boys up to believe this to be the case is downright harmful. I fear for the ones with those parents - not least any poor female strangers they might happen to meet.
It’s not all about the rape threads you mentioned @MarieIVanArkleStinks it’s everything when a man is mentioned here.
That's a broad sweep. I've already cited several contexts in which the nuances differ. But nuance seems to be severely lacking in this post. And since you're making generalized observations about this site, the threads you mention are the ones where the NAMALT response is most vociferous, and the feelings of victims of male violence are being minimised, and worse, mocked. This has happened, I can point you directly to those threads. But of course if it's the feelings of a rape victim someone is taking the piss out of, that makes it fine? We are, after all, only women.
it may be an over simplistic view that constantly berating men and taking the piss out of their feelings means that you don’t care about them
And I've taken it at face value and answered these points in good faith. As for your constant protestation that women are 'taking the piss' out of men's feelings (a generalisation I've seen no evidence of) I'd remind you of that old maxim 'men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them'.