To think it has started

[oohmamama]

Live in a beautiful seaside town in the SW.

Yesterday, in the 5 minutes of getting out of my car I saw the second home owners from Oxford in their holiday home opposite our house had arrived and a whole family get out of their car with their suitcases arrive at their gran's house two doors down.

Just...bloody...WAIT!!!

OP you can report them

maybe there are 2 issues here:
1- living in a holiday town is annoying
2- unlocking is hard for some

sounds like a control thing to me op, I do understand it is hard to unlock

@Blueeyedgirl21

I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than go to the SW after reading posts on here, honestly makes it sound like a place full of snobs and insular are you local types, the scenery isn’t even that good, we will be visiting family in the highlands this summer - better than being packed in being judged paying £5 for an ice cream in Devon

Trust me, it isn't full of snobs, just some people who are a little bit too "local" that think they own the bloody place because they've lived here all their lives.

Can't wait for people to start coming back.

There were some shops in I think it may have been Cornwall that refused to serve people who they did not think were locals, during the restrictions between March and June last year. I wonder if this will be repeated?

The 12th April is when a lot of schools go back.

Not really a surprise that some families will be trying to get a break in before this surely?

@SerendipityJane

Maybe they were going for an eye test ?

must remember to deploy when needed.

60% of us are vaccinated
We are coming out of this ( most of us ) alive ! ALIVE!!!!!
Rejoice! Rejoice!
Fucking REJOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Nancylovesthecock

I no longer care about this. Neither does the majority if the country if they were honest. Particularly if its a second home, it belongs to them. They can live there. Bollocks this 'local town for local people' nonsense.

Absolutely.

@oohmamama the reason I take such exception to your post is the real implication of it.

I live in a beautiful place and I'm very lucky for that. Even luckier to have a second home. You live in a beautiful place, you've identified that, and you're lucky to live there, you've said that two.

Lots of people don't live in beautiful parts of the UK. People have had to endure all sorts of never ending demoralising lockdowns and restrictions living in shitholes, flats with no outside space, all kinds of horrible scenarios.

Some people need a break, for the MH more than anything else. This lockdown hasn't been anywhere near as well policed or adhered to as previous ones, and admittedly I am part of the "problem". But life has to go on now for so many of us. People need to get a change of scenery and have things to enjoy and if that means moving about again, so be it. If I can go into Tesco's with hundreds of people who cannot observe social distancing, I can drive to Suffolk coast for a dog walk and chips.

@sparepantsandtoothbrush

That's where it's come from 🙄

👏🏻 I hope they have a lovely time together. Like all of us, they are probably gagging to be together.

You can stare angrily out of your window, furiously Mumsnetting all you like, OP, but they have a second home and they’re going to use it.

@PurpleWh1teGreen

The 12th April is when a lot of schools go back.

Not really a surprise that some families will be trying to get a break in before this surely?

Wanting a holiday is not a reason to break rules/laws. It’s a want not a necessity.

I would love to understand where the Telegraph reached the view this is ok. As a second home owner (shoot me) I am desperate to get away, but everything I’ve read except that Telegraph article says not until 12 April

I also live in a beautiful seaside town in the southwest.

People have been coming for ages. Couldn’t give a toss, we need the industry. Thank you to everyone who is coming and will spend their money on the next year, we do appreciate you, it’s just a few whingey ones who don’t.

*too 😬

55% have been vaccinated. Barely any deaths now each day. The only danger tourist areas are going to experience is if we allow people from other countries coming here, with potentially new variants. Obviously because people in the U.K. are pretty much banned from travelling abroad this summer (rightly so), then towns here are going to be pretty much gridlocked throughout the holidays. The countryside dwellers who dislike visitors are going to be absolutely swamped by townies, so this next few weeks is going to be just a taste of what is coming in the summer.

I've seen similar posts on Facebook about Dartmoor, some people who live in the vicinity see themselves as Gatekeepers of the moors and judge and jury on who gets to enjoy them. Townies have most definitely not been welcome during the pandemic. Now things are looking to ease some are horrified that they may have to share them with the unwelcome again. I personally find it very sad.

Its a choice to live in a tourist destination. The reason you love it is why its a tourist destination. There is no tourist destination in the UK that hasn't been a tourist destination for over 100 years.

There are upsides and downsides to living in any place in any part of the world, and chosing to live in a tourist destination (and yes, even if you grew up there if you are an adult its a choice) one of the downsides is 2nd home owners and tourists.

These aren't even tourist yet, but 2nd home owners.

If those houses weren't owned by 2nd home owners, they would be filled with families already. Rates across most of the UK are low and if they have secondary aged dcs then they will have just had several weeks of bi weekly testing, so they arent bringing the covid to you.

The roads will be busy on Monday, both 2nd home owners travelling and people going to meet family for garden meet ups.

Life is getting back to normal. Perhaps this is time to think if you actually want to live in a tourist location or not. The break of lockdown without them is coming to an end. Go live somewhere less picturesque if you don't like "outsiders"

I’ve gotten to the point I really do not give a shit anymore - people will do what they want to do and will find an excuse/way around it

In our village we’ve had a lot of people who are second home owners come and go all through lockdown, I remember when the lockdown in London was announced and I heard cars arriving in the village up till 1am.

@sparepantsandtoothbrush

That's where it's come from 🙄

That’s fantastic! Does it mean we can go to our second home in Wales next week?

[quote ButtonMoony]@Kazzyhoward

Completely different situation to last summer.

Time to get the country moving and people living again.[/quote]
Totally agree

I meant the rule breakers, not the tourists.

My point is, HOW do you know they’re breaking the rules? They might be forming a support bubble. They might need childcare for their children. Why have you decided they’re rule-breakers? And therefore selfish and irresponsible?

@Pinotwoman82

Infection rates did not start growing in august, and in fact in October infections were at the highest in the north, there were more people in hospitals in the north than in the whole of the south put together including London. So tourists did not drive up infections in tourist areas in the summer.

True. Virus's like the cold weather. All summer it was minimal.

As I said upthread, at some point, maybe not for a year or so, but at some point. I really hope we stop keeping track of cases and using them as a reason to scream 'lockdown'. Vaccines, improved treatment, T&T and reasonable sd measures mean that the NHS is protected which was the goal. Cases in otherwise healthy people, the vast majority of whom will be fine, need to be accepted just as all other risks of stepping out your front door are. There is a vast swathe of other life to live.

I’m a teacher. Have taught in school all through the past 12 months, across various year groups and bubbles. Have followed the law. Caught Covid in October. Was all ready to see family at Xmas, then lockdown happened again and we couldn’t.

This week my mum has been diagnosed with very aggressive leukaemia. She has a year at the most. We have hardly been able to see her over the past year as they live in the NW, which had stricter rules than us in the SE for ages.

I have followed the rules, even when kids in my class talk about uncle so and so’s party at the weekend with all the cousins, and various sleepovers.

No longer. My mum is dying, and I am going to see her when she wants. The consultant spoke to me on the phone last night and said ‘if this was my mother, and there is not much time, this is what I would do’.

But perhaps my mum’s neighbours will see us getting out of the car with our suitcases and want to report us too?

@HugeAckmansWife I agree that there becomes a point when it is just an illness treated like no other. Hopefully sooner than a year.

However, the current management of restrictions is one rule for richer people and one for others, and also hangs the police out to dry because they are asked to be judge and jury instead of the courts. Enforcement and acceptance of restrictions became a lot harder once Dominic Cummings and Robert Jenrick were not sacked last summer.