To think it has started

[oohmamama]

Live in a beautiful seaside town in the SW.

Yesterday, in the 5 minutes of getting out of my car I saw the second home owners from Oxford in their holiday home opposite our house had arrived and a whole family get out of their car with their suitcases arrive at their gran's house two doors down.

Just...bloody...WAIT!!!

Don’t you have to stay local (rather than stay home) from Monday? Travel out of local area is not until April or May? I am not bothered what other people get up too, but want to be sure when I have the inevitable argument with my Covid wary husband later..

Give me strength!

@PeonyRose80 it's guidance rather than legally enforceable

Jeez what's with all the bullying comments on here this morning 🙄 reading mn on a sunny sat morning is supposed to be a bit of light relief #bekind

Schools are back. More and more people are back at work, the roads are busy. And cases are still coming down.
Can people just stop fuelling this hype that we all need to stay locked up for longer. It's not sustainable for the economy to keep restrictions in place much longer.

@Weenurse

I don’t understand, here in Australia we are hearing about how the UK should be getting a third wave sometime soon, why are people travelling?

What do you think this is linked to?

Internal U.K. travel or international

Don't think you deserve the backlash on here. I think so many people are fed up and people's interpretations of the rules are changing. If i still lived in a beautiful seaside town and i saw a family turn up at their second home then i too would be frustrated. I also would be thinking 'why not wait until your allowed'. Everyone is struggling with this is some form or other. I don't agree with people ignoring the rules but i understand that for a vast amount of people here in the UK just want some kind of normality. It's ok for everyone to have an opinion on this but right now i don't think its fair to slam OP. Some people still take this virus seriously as they follow the rules properly and wait their turn like everyone else.

@Brusselsprouts21

Don't think you deserve the backlash on here. I think so many people are fed up and people's interpretations of the rules are changing. If i still lived in a beautiful seaside town and i saw a family turn up at their second home then i too would be frustrated. I also would be thinking 'why not wait until your allowed'. Everyone is struggling with this is some form or other. I don't agree with people ignoring the rules but i understand that for a vast amount of people here in the UK just want some kind of normality. It's ok for everyone to have an opinion on this but right now i don't think its fair to slam OP. Some people still take this virus seriously as they follow the rules properly and wait their turn like everyone else.

The issue we have with the OP, is that she doesn't know if these people are breaking the rules. There's a 50/50 chance they're not. Why be some judgmental of your neighbours when you don't even know for a fact what they're doing is not allowed?

I’m with you OP.
One child in my DC’s class has been talking about their birthday party over Easter, of which many children have been invited (more then 6).
At least one other is going away to spend the holidays with family. I’m sure the teacher was thrilled to hear all about that (heads up parents, primary aged DC can’t keep a secret).

The craziest thing we will be doing is going for a socially distanced walk with another household outside. Because that’s all we are allowed to do isn’t it? Our lives have expanded from meeting one person to meeting one household. That really is the only difference for us.

I do resent the people who are doing as they please and I do think they are selfish. Dreading bubbles popping when my DC return after Easter.

OP you seem to be more bothered that that they are '2nd home owners', I understand that people constantly visiting your 'beautiful' town is a pain but that's the nature of living in a place like that.

I can't bring myself to be annoyed at this, I've been a stickler for the rules all the way through but the unfairness at some of the rules and the way the government have behaved encourages resentment. We are so close to the end, leave them to it.

It’s not the OP that has done anything wrong, not that you would get that from some of the replies. The law is the law. It’s not for us to dismiss it. Op is right.

I'm so glad I don't have neighbours to decide what I should or should be doing. The MH burden on curtain twitchers like you must be huge. You don't even know whether they are breaking the rules.

Who even cares at this point. The numbers are non existent, over half the population is vaccinated and the national debt is utterly crippling for our young people.

That’s fantastic! Does it mean we can go to our second home in Wales next week?

Not yet - no cross border travel in Wales until April 12.

I have sympathy for OP, and all local permanent residents of places where 2nd home ownership is prevalent.
The point she seems to be making is that isn't it too soon for people to be visiting their holiday homes, or coming to stay with relatives?
I don't know, but I do know that in very many places, local residents are completely priced out of "getting on the housing ladder" because homes are snapped up as second homes.
This is not what the OP was complaining about, but this is the situation. I'm not in an area affected by this, so have no personal axe to grind.
I realise I've gone a bit off-topic, and this issue could be a thread in itself, and I have no idea what the answer is. I know the government and local authorities have devised some financial disincentives, but they haven't stopped it happening.

Lots of very ‘special’ people on this thread. They’re very important and rules don’t apply to them. They’ve been imprisoned don’t you know. Dickheads.

@Bluntness100

The amount of people we're expecting this summer - not sure we would miss you

The royal “we.” The op, speaking for the town. 😂

This!

I don’t understand, here in Australia we are hearing about how the UK should be getting a third wave sometime soon, why are people travelling?

You don’t need to understand, you live in a country the other side of the world with permanently locked down borders. Jog on and when you get there keep jogging.

@ItsMarch you can have a garden party with the rule of six, and you can travel anywhere for a day trip.

Just because you interpret that to be "socially distanced walk with one other household" doesn't mean that's all you can do...

Don’t you have to stay local (rather than stay home) from Monday? Travel out of local area is not until April or May? I am not bothered what other people get up too, but want to be sure when I have the inevitable argument with my Covid wary husband later..

Nope, it’s guidance.

I'm in a lovely SW seaside town and I really can't get worked up about this. Second homeowners are allowed to travel from 12.01am on Monday anyway. What difference does a few hours make?

The poster up thread who said the rules only allowed travel to second homes abroad is wrong - it is any second home, here or abroad. Many second homeowners need to do maintenance work to their houses as they've not been able to visit for months. If they rent them out then this will need to be done before 12th.

I just imagine a Tubbs & Edward type scene. The locals stood at the front of their (long gated) driveway upon seeing the arrival of 2nd home owners...

"What are you doing here? There's nothing for you here. This is a local town for local people...."

You are not the only country that locked down after Christmas. We have had 6 days that we could travel beyond our county in the past 6 months, and we've been back to 5km since Christmas again. Other countries have locked down, or had overnight curfews from 8pm or 6pm.

Numbers in the UK may have started to drop, but case numbers in England are rising again.

The rules are being relaxed in the future - around travel next week and overnight stays on another few weeks. Not this weekend.

Increased movement allows for increased spread.

But no, it is more important hat people go and take their holidays in "nice seaside town in SW" than stick to the rules which are there for everyone's safety.

In our case, we are not allowed move yet or meet other people, and it is looking like there's only going to be very Minor changes to that, and not until. After Easter. We don't even have all the DCs back to school yet, with 1st to 4th years in secondary only going back on 12th April, which I am praying for as DD needs the structure and to see friends. They were only told after Christmas holidays had started that there would be a 2 day delay to going back, which has turned into more than 3 months. So they didn't even have a chance to say goodbye properly to their friends - they had expected to see each other in 2 weeks again.

Op, just report them. They are three months early for overnight stays unless they have decided to move to your town for the foreseeable.

And yes Europe may be experiencing a third wave but despite our high percentage of vaccinated people we are not yet out of the woods, bottom line is we don’t know how long we can keep importing vaccines in a massive scale and everybody needs to be vaccinated yearly. I won’t be surprised at all If vaccinations for under 50s get cancelled to keep available vaccines for the older people that need their yearly vaccine more.

I’m going to visit run down “undesirable” areas for my permitted UK only holidays to avoid this kind of nasty crap from people living in holiday areas who appear to loathe holidaymakers.

@flamingflamingos, except the people who live in shitholes, flats without open space etc are still stuck there. But people who have money, cars and second homes in lovely places can travel and stay outside their home.

We have a light trail in our Albert Dock, Liverpool. People have been reminded not to travel outside their area, even those across Merseyside, if they need to travel by train (10-20 minutes) and as they walk around, the police are asking where people have traveled from and could fine them if so inclined. Yet someone better off whose children aren't going to be suffering quite the same, who aren't living in substandard accommodation and aren't suffering from poverty can go to a second home miles away.

Millions do care about this and will abandon the rules during Easter because again, we certainly aren't all in it together. This question was put to the prime minister and he ignored it. Either unnecessary travel is opened for all, or not at all.