To think it has started

[oohmamama]

Live in a beautiful seaside town in the SW.

Yesterday, in the 5 minutes of getting out of my car I saw the second home owners from Oxford in their holiday home opposite our house had arrived and a whole family get out of their car with their suitcases arrive at their gran's house two doors down.

Just...bloody...WAIT!!!

Op, just report them. They are three months early for overnight stays unless they have decided to move to your town for the foreseeable

They are not! Overnight stays for one household in self contained accommodation are allowed from 12th April. Second homeowners can travel from 29th to check/undertake work to their property.

@NoBetterthanSheShouldBe

Also live in a nice place in the SW. Visitors and students are about, cases are rising.

I certainly won’t be going to the chippy or the main supermarkets for a while.

Cases are going to rise though, aren't they? People are mass testing regularly, LFT's are encouraged and they will obviously pick up a symptomatic people. I really think we should no longer be counting the number of cases. If we get locked down again due to an increase of cases, I honestly don't see how we'll ever get out of this hell.

Later today you will see me with my household arrive with suitcases at my mother's house near the coast. I'm not breaking any covid rules by doing so, we are a support bubble and are fully allowed to stay with each other. Unless I've missed something then you don't know for definite that they are breaking the rules. Even worse after I've been home for 2 weeks my sister is going to go and stay and you know what that is also allowed as my mum is changing support bubbles

Can anyone point me to the guidance of being allowed to go to second homes to undertake maintenance? We really need to go and check ours in Wales as we haven’t been for over a year!

@bananapalmsb hence my comment “many children have been invited (more then 6)”.

I understand the rule of 6.

No idea why you’re getting a hard time but not surprised!
This week I’ve seen neighbours with different groups of people trotting in and out of their houses. When neighbours see me outside they manage to get in ‘I’ve given up now, what’s the point?!🙄’
Complete selfishness. Worst offender has bent every rule possible but yet talks about how hard it’s been for them.
People are looking to break the rules.

As for the third wave not happening, posters once again know more than Whitty, Valance and JVT, because they've all said it's inevitable.

Op, just report them. They are three months early for overnight stays unless they have decided to move to your town for the foreseeable

Um no they aren’t, how can you not be aware of the restrictions lifting. It’s even written on this thread.

Well we clearly have a third wave of curtain twitching. None of us knows what's going on in another family, and why should you. I wish everyone would just mind their own business.

@Livelovebehappy

55% have been vaccinated. Barely any deaths now each day. The only danger tourist areas are going to experience is if we allow people from other countries coming here, with potentially new variants. Obviously because people in the U.K. are pretty much banned from travelling abroad this summer (rightly so), then towns here are going to be pretty much gridlocked throughout the holidays. The countryside dwellers who dislike visitors are going to be absolutely swamped by townies, so this next few weeks is going to be just a taste of what is coming in the summer.

Deaths are currently 'low' because it takes several weeks to get from infection to death. They will be higher in a few weeks since schools went back & 3 -5 weeks after Easter & people doing as they please, they'll be higher still.

The scientists formulated a plan, so we could open up - as quickly, but safely as possible. A plan to avoid another spike, but NO, idiots don't want to stick to the plan, they want to race ahead & fuck it if it causes more deaths & then more restrictions. Utter imbeciles.

@Hobnobswantshernameback

Tell you what We'll stay away from your pretty little towns If you stay away from my big city Last summer we had all of this from people in touristy bits of wales Middle of Cardiff was utterly rammed with tourists all summer Seems it only works one way And most of the people moaning about tourists either work from home or have sat on their furloughed arses for the last year Bet they aren't running businesses and watching their life's work and savings disappearing desperate to get some work and earnings Fear not for you pretty little seaside town As soon as most of us can we'll be heading somewhere hot and sunny

Totally agree. I'm sure the tourist industry in these beautiful seaside towns will be glad of the extra income because as soon as international tourism/travel is allowed, I can't imagine huge numbers of tourists choosing to visit locations in this country where locals have made it obvious they do not welcome them, over going to somewhere, warm, sunny and welcoming.

@SunshiningBetty

Can anyone point me to the guidance of being allowed to go to second homes to undertake maintenance? We really need to go and check ours in Wales as we haven’t been for over a year!

DCMS confirmed that travel is permitted, ostensibly for work from 29th March. This is from PASCUK, self-catering homes association.

You say you’re not going to report them OP... why not? If you feel that strongly about it, what is moaning about it on an Internet forum going to achieve? Do you think people are going to read this and say ‘ah, that random on the Internet says stay away so I will’?
If you feel strongly about it, have the courage of your convictions and report them. If you don’t, there are probably more interesting things you can do with your time than moan about it online.

Perhaps if OP is so concerned about abiding by lockdown rules she should leave her 2 children at home when shopping.

I should add, that applies to England, not sure about Scotland or Wales though.

What a nice way to spend a Saturday morning, posting nasty messages in response to the OP's concerns about people next door potentially breaking the law... Nice one everyone!

The OP‘S thread doesn’t deserve the vitriol it’s getting or the OP being compared to stasi or whatever.

Many people on Dartmoor are dreading a large influx of people because when they had a large number of visitors in the summer many of them seemed to have left their common decency at home. They parked illegally, they left rubbish everywhere including their own shit. In normal summers it is just the ignorant few that do this, the majority of tourists treat the moor with respect.

Again with shops etc in tourist areas there were reports of tourists thinking masks and SD didn’t apply in the summer as they were on holiday and they were getting away from the rules.

I live near the coast and last Summer was absolutely hellish. We were essentially stuck indoors for months while a huge number of tourists were here, far more than normal, and far more unpleasant than normal. All the local elderly people were trying to stay safe but there were visitors everywhere. It was such a scary time.
I am literally dreading Easter and the Summer holidays. We have had the second homers sneaking in throughout each lockdown, not giving a damn about the local community, the atmosphere at times has been horrible, with visitors being really pushy and unpleasant. A couple literally walked into my friend’s house !! In a pandemic !!! Insisting that they rent one of her outbuildings.
SunshiningBetty if you live in England you are not allowed into Wales at the moment, and holiday homes in Wales are destroying our communities,

@Meg87

What a nice way to spend a Saturday morning, posting nasty messages in response to the OP's concerns about people next door potentially breaking the law... Nice one everyone!

Well... it’s not much different to the OP spending a Saturday morning moaning about her neighbours when she has no actual idea of their circumstances, is it? Sounds like it’s very possibly a support bubble arrangement. I just don’t get why people don’t report it if they feel strongly about it, rather than just starting threads.

I don’t understand, here in Australia we are hearing about how the UK should be getting a third wave sometime soon, why are people travelling?

Because unlike Australia we have managed to vaccinate over 40% of the population with at least one dose, which offers fantastic protection against transmission and almost total protection against death and serious illness, that's why. We can start to take more risks and branch out a little.

And because also unlike Australia, we've been locked down pretty much constantly since the autumn and most people live in overcrowded towns and cities with little access to beaches and open spaces. We are just coming out of a fucking depressing winter which will be way more fucking depressing than any Australian winter and people will go insane and start killing one another or themselves if they don't get a break from it soon.

I realise that Australians (who have largely been lockdown free and covid free in recent months) are itching for the rest of the world (mainly Europe) to get back to normal so they can start travelling again and having tourists back to Australia, but perhaps fed up people in the UK don't have the wishes of Australians at the forefront of their minds right now.

@Tottington

Covid Bingo: I'm a "critical" worker Been vaccinated Daily tests Live in a beautiful rural-coastal part of the SW

I'm taking my kids to stay with my parents over the Easter holiday (starts good Friday). They live 200 miles away. I'm sure I'm breaking some rules but I have no idea what else I'm supposed to do for childcare over the school holiday.

We're all very excited about seeing my parents.

The only thing that'll piss me off about the tourists is the bloody M5 traffic when I'm trying to get back home and to work!

Are you really that stupid that you don't realise how many rules you're breaking? I doubt it. More likely you don't care. What about using a holiday club?

I'll be waiting until the rules allow for my children to see their grandparents.

Couldn't give a toss. My neighbours have had grandparents to stay and visit their new baby (both NHS workers) I've been meeting my parents to go for walks and stayed overnight at their house. We've been out for walks and picnics at various locations every weekend. Guess what plenty of people were doing the same and fuck all has happened.

Are you sure they aren't in a support bubble which is completely legal and as such would not be breaking any rules? You probably don't know the answer as you more than likely haven't asked and instead just watched them. I could not get worked up over a family travelling to see or stay near their gran.
I've seen my sister recently as I've been having a hard time, she's come inside and been a support to me. I make no apologies for that.