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Daughters carer refused covid vaccine

267 replies

Nevic84 · 25/03/2021 20:20

My daughter 6 has multiple health needs mainly a tracheostomy but also a weakened immune system and minor heart defect.
She’s a happy and otherwise healthy child.
But she’s classed as clinically extremely vulnerable.
She has 1:1 carers as her condition is life threatening.
Her main carer has refused covid vaccine.
Not for any religious or health reasons she doesn’t want to be bullied into having it and if she gets it she’ll get it when she wants and not before (her words)
In her personal life she’s not following covid restrictions and having people over her house and going into other peoples house and visiting public places a lot only wearing mask when mandatory.
What’s peoples opinions and how would they deal with it?
Aibu to think if you work in care you would care enough to want to protect those who couldn’t be protected?
I worry about my daughter everyday I feel scared for her.
As an employer I can’t force her to have it.

OP posts:
brushlaptop · 25/03/2021 20:24

Get a new carer. That's bang out of order she is not thinking of your poor daughter at all! So unfair.

tillytoodles1 · 25/03/2021 20:25

She's free to do what she wants, but she shouldn't be anywhere near your daughter. Can you get a replacement ASAP.

Hairyfairy01 · 25/03/2021 20:25

That sounds tricky. I guess without the vaccine she is more likely to be symptomatic, therefore more likely to be tested than someone who has had the vaccine. I admit i’m Clutching at straws! I would be more annoyed that she is mixing so much I think.

Chanjer · 25/03/2021 20:26

Get a new carer

helpmum2003 · 25/03/2021 20:26

Are you otherwise happy with this carer?

Personally I would agree that a carer having these attitudes to covid are incompatible with their job. However, I can imagine it is difficult to find good carers so it may not be as black and white as it seems.

How very difficult for you. Are the carers employed by you or an agency?

Thehop · 25/03/2021 20:27

Get a new carpet based on her shit attitude and mixing.

Thehop · 25/03/2021 20:28

Oh crap. Carer. Sorry

Viviennemary · 25/03/2021 20:28

Don't employ such a person. But I don't know how you stand legally. How very selfish of her.

Mumblechum0 · 25/03/2021 20:29

Do you employ her directly? If not, who does?

spacegirl86 · 25/03/2021 20:29

As annoying as it is I don't think you can insist on the vaccine side. The other things I think are grounds to get a new carer!

LIZS · 25/03/2021 20:29

Is she doing any asymptomatic testing? Agree you should reconsider her as carer, do you employ her direct or via an agency?

Milkshake7489 · 25/03/2021 20:30

(If i remember rightly!) There's a clause in some legislation that means you can refuse to work with a carer on pretty much any grounds.

Fire her. She's putting your daughter at risk.

Tigerchips · 25/03/2021 20:31

Get rid. It's her lookout

Dora26 · 25/03/2021 20:32

Shes entitled to her views but your daughter is entitled to her lifw - get rid asap - how arrogant

GladysTheGroovyMule · 25/03/2021 20:33

I’d be finding a new carer. She’s free to do what she wants but there’s consequences to that and your daughters health and well-being comes before this person’s bloody mindedness.

CoffeeRunner · 25/03/2021 20:33

It shows a selfish lack of concern for your DD’s vulnerability. It would honestly make me doubt how suitable she is for the job. Not exclusively because she hasn’t been vaccinated but because she just isn’t thinking about the needs of the person she is employed to care for.

AmyLou100 · 25/03/2021 20:34

In her personal life she’s not following covid restrictions and having people over her house and going into other peoples house and visiting public places a lot only wearing mask when mandatory.

She is putting your dd at risk and you know this, why haven't you done anything before? This is happening regardless of the refusal to vaccinate so it should have been addressed in any case.

Nevic84 · 25/03/2021 20:42

I employ direct with direct payments.
1 pcr test a week.
I do like her but it’s so difficult when it’s your child it’s like Russian roulette
I’ve had my vaccine as an unpaid carer and it felt like the happiest day or my life (other than having my children)

Everyone has different opinions on it.
I half expect one day she’ll turn round and say she’ll have it just because she’s chosen the time, she likes to travel so I guess she’ll need it in the end somehow.

OP posts:
EachDubh · 25/03/2021 20:42

Check out the legal ins and outs and get rid. Your daughter is high risk and susceptible yet this person is happy to put her at risk by doing minimal rule following or less. Yes, vaccine is a ersonal choice, but with choices come responsibilities and as a carer she has a responsibility to her client, your daughter. If you can't let her go and she isn't on fixed hpurs see if you can reduce her hours right down and get someone else. Explain why though as she genuinely not have thought about her choice in relation to your daughter and may change her mind.

l2b2 · 25/03/2021 20:43

I couldn't tolerate this OP. She's totally unsuitable, too selfish and socially irresponsible to work a carer.

Pinpointer · 25/03/2021 20:44

The vaccine won’t stop her catching it so her reckless behaviour is putting your daughter at risk with or without the jab

Cherryblossom7 · 25/03/2021 20:49

YANBU at all. Can you let her go for another reason?

ChaToilLeam · 25/03/2021 20:49

I would find another carer. Sure, everyone is free to make their own choice about vaccination, and rightly so, but those choices also have consequences. Your daughter comes first.

Inthemuckheap · 25/03/2021 20:53

Is she following government guidelines in regards to wearing full PPE? As you employ her directly using DP if she's on a zero hour contract you don't have any obligation to give her work and she doesn't have any obligation to accept it. If she is employed on a salaried basis with guaranteed hours, you are on a sticky wicket as you can't get rid due to vaccine refusal.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 25/03/2021 20:56

How long has she worked for you? Under 2 years and you can pretty much just sack her.

Over 2 years and you have to be a bit more careful, but there would seem to be sufficient grounds as she is putting your daughter at risk.