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Inheritance issues - part 2. AKA: Is FIL being manipulated and ripped off?

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ThornAmongstRoses · 24/03/2021 06:43

This thread is for those who helped me on my previous thread about my FIL upping sticks, handing his a big chunk off his money over to his daughter to ultimately live in her garden. Sorry but I don’t know how to link to my previous thread.

The update from what happened last night when we confronted FIL with our concerns:

“And it turns out that SIL is 14 weeks pregnant.

Apparently when she and her partner first suggested the Cabin idea 6 months or so ago and FIL declined and said he was happy to buy somewhere so he wouldn’t be under their feet, she told him not to be silly as the arrangement would work out really well for all involved as she and her partner were hoping to have more children in the future but that they wouldn’t be able to unless they had a bigger house anyway. SIL then told him how much it would mean to her and how wonderful it would be for FIL to be around to watch new grandchildren be born and see them grow up, liked he’d been around when DB (my husband) had had his children. FIL then agreed that it would be really nice to be around for early days and from then onwards, and agreed it was something he would happy be to look into.

Anyway, it looks like SIL took that as him being board and to cut a long story short, she told FIL she was pregnant about 3 months ago but told him not to tell anyone as it was such early days (her prerogative so that’s fine). Anyhow, it appears that is why FIL put his house up for sale and sold it quickly so the new house could be bought in time for the baby’s arrival. Bit strange really seeing as the baby generally stays with the parents in their room for a good 6 months or so, but that’s the story FIL gave. Stinks of manipulation to me but FIL is clearly happy with what’s happened and he does seem excited about the idea of being around for the new baby.

We asked him what would become of the Cabin if he passed away and he said that wasn’t his problem (with a smile) and said that SIL and her partner could do whatever they liked with it.

He hasn’t looked into anything legal as he didn’t think it was necessary. We did advise it (and gave examples from this thread as reasons why he should) but he told us we are worrying unnecessarily. So that’s his choice to make.

We asked him about the time scale of him staying here which was slightly awkward but he promised us again he would only be here for a few months. We said that was unlikely and explained why (all the issues raised in this thread) but he said things would be moving along quickly and if there are any delays he would move out and rent somewhere near us until the cabin is built. I asked why he wasn’t going to rent over there to make sure he liked the area, but he said he wanted to spend as much time as he could with us before he moved away.

So yes, he seems to be going into this with an awareness of all the ins and outs and is happy to go along with it all, so that’s that. It’s all his decision and if he doesn’t take legal advice then that too is his choice.

We have told him we won’t be taking the offered £25k but thanked him for his offer. As has been said on this thread, he’s probably going to need a back-up fund.

FIL left about an hour ago and me and DH are off to bed now with a film as we feel drained. I just wanted to update you as I’ve had so much help and advice from you all.”

I had a PM this morning from a poster who had wanted to respond to my post last night but realised the thread was full so answered privately instead.

Anyhow - I just wanted to start a second thread as I’m sure others have lots of further advice based on my FIL’s revelation, and also because I doubt this is the end of the matter.

Me and DH struggled to sleep last night but we see it’s a done deal now and due to the pregnancy we know FIL isn’t going to back out the deal so now it’s a case of trying to get him to protect himself as best as he can.

OP posts:
diddl · 28/03/2021 17:50

@ThornAmongstRoses

DH has told FIL that he can’t move in. We know it was the right decision to make but we both feel really shit about it.
Why?

Bloody hell-if he gets his arse into gear he could buy in Skeggy pretty quickly as a cash buyer.

How long before he needs to move from his place?

Dunnesstores · 28/03/2021 17:51

Despite the upset I think you both have done the right thing. This was a poorly considered plan from start to finish but neither of them can come back in time to come and say they went into this with their eyes closed and expect you to pick up the pieces.

Twoforthree · 28/03/2021 17:51

Where did the 10 months come from?

frazzledasarock · 28/03/2021 17:54

To be honest it sounds to me like FIL wanted to give SIL a big chunk of money and thought he’d move into your house.

Because you’re not going to kick him out of your home and make him homeless after he’s been living in your house for a few years and it’s become the norm.

This really isn’t your circus.

He’s a grown adult. If there is a cabin in the garden thing planned, he and SIL will have arranged an interim living arrangement for FIL too. And if they haven’t they should. You’re really not involved in any of this so you shouldn’t be the fall back either.

DoubleTweenQueen · 28/03/2021 17:54

@ThornAmongstRoses Neither you nor your DH should feel bad, after being placed in such a ridiculous position Flowers

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/03/2021 17:57

10 months? Bloody hell.

3 months I thought was pushing it. 10 Months minimum? I don't think my sanity would survive.

DoubleTweenQueen · 28/03/2021 17:57

@ThornAmongstRoses Also, I'm relieved for you both that you've put your foot down. FIL is a grown up and unfortunately free to make his own mistakes, but he may not put you and your family under duress as a result. Self preservation x

Stratfordplace · 28/03/2021 17:58

How did he arrive at 10 months? Not a year? Seems an unlikely timeframe.

PerveenMistry · 28/03/2021 17:59

Thank you for the update. You are unquestionably doing the right thing for your family.

And perhaps the jolt will make FIL see the light.

billy1966 · 28/03/2021 18:03

I really don't think you have any reason to feel bad OP.

Your responsibility, and that of your husband's, is to your children.

I really believe this could do irreparable damage to your marriage, and for what?

A man who has been so dishonest with you both from the off.

You both have to put yere children first.

Think of the stress of the past week...imagine that for a year?

Awful.
Awful for your children.

Flowers
PerveenMistry · 28/03/2021 18:04

OP if you don't mind the questions, what did SIL have to say for herself?

NoSquirrels · 28/03/2021 18:10

@ThornAmongstRoses

DH has told FIL that he can’t move in. We know it was the right decision to make but we both feel really shit about it.
Well done. It was indeed the right thing, for everybody.

The only way for you to remain impartial and ‘supportive’ is not to be directly involved in any of the fall-out.

Hopefully the legal advice and the delays will enable your FIL to reconsider without feeling he’s pushed into a corner.

And at least your DH has had it out with his sister - she needed to know his feelings!

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 28/03/2021 18:24

I would hope that when everyone has calmed down you can explain to FiL that had he discussed it all with you from the beginning you would have supported his move. I hope he gets the legal advice he needs (maybe offer to go with him?) and comes to a sensible decision. You haven't done anything wrong (quite the opposite) so don't feel guilty

Newkitchen123 · 28/03/2021 18:29

At least he's agreed to get legal advice.
Is he going on his own?
Maybe help him make a list of questions to ask

saraclara · 28/03/2021 18:29

How on earth did SIL think it was reasonable to have him live with you for ten months while they spend a chunk of his money on a new house for themselves?

And did he really think it was reasonable himself?

Ellpellwood · 28/03/2021 18:31

I'm not sure he really did think it was reasonable. I wonder when SiL first made mutterings to FiL about it being 10 months?

tickboxes · 28/03/2021 18:36

That's really, really good news, OP. Well done for taking a firm line. It must have been hard but you've done absolutely the right thing. He'll thank you in the end.

SuperSange · 28/03/2021 18:39

I know it seems shit, but long term you've done the right thing. You e made him sit up and take notice; that's great.

DottyFlossie · 28/03/2021 18:43

Please don't feel bad. You are doing the right thing.

Gazelda · 28/03/2021 18:46

This is a very good step forward. His eyes are beginning to open, you and DH have stated your position and SIL knows that it's not going to pan out totally in her favour.

Legal advice is certainly needed, so long as he asks all the right questions.

I'm sorry you're in this position though. You both must be feeling very sad. I hope your FIL understands that your stance is to a)protect your marriage b) to protect your DC from having their beloved grandpa move in and then move away because he wants to live elsewhere and c) out of concern for him.

Raindancer411 · 28/03/2021 18:48

@ThornAmongstRoses I am sure a solicitor will have lots to say but as to if he listens, is another thing. I hope that he sees sense though :)

Whythesadface · 28/03/2021 18:49

Every time FIL opens his mouth so new twist appears.
SO SIL was going to take the cash, buy the house, then what back out and leave you with FIL?

Chloemol · 28/03/2021 18:49

I suggest fil now takes the opportunity to go and rent near sil if he does go ahead with selling his house. There he gets to understands what it will be like living there

thesecretvoter · 28/03/2021 18:52

Where I live in the North East we have older people retirement accommodation run by Joseph Rowntree Trust. you can buy a share (or a whole property) and if it's not for you sell it back to them. Has your FIL considered doing something like this for the 10 months? It could work if he went to Skegness, and would give him time to see if they actually want him there before he spends his cash on them.

thesecretvoter · 28/03/2021 18:53

I should have also said that I think Thirteen housing do similar schemes for retirement bungalows etc.

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