To be a true feminism, I need to address my own misandry?

[FerrisWheelTrain]

For example - are terms like LTB sexist?

@greycloudysky I have absolutely nothing against the domestic abuse bill! WHAT??? Where on earth did you get that from? I can’t understand why you’ve even said that! I would support that entirely? Of COURSE a woman should leave an abusive man. But you can advise without using gender derogatory terms that are counter-productive IS MY POINT.

I’m talking about A DIFFERENT BILL. And I shall link you!

bills.parliament.uk/bills/2719

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@greycloudysky I have absolutely nothing against the domestic abuse bill! WHAT??? Where on earth did you get that from? I can’t understand why you’ve even said that! I would support that entirely? Of COURSE a woman should leave an abusive man. But you can advise without using gender derogatory terms that are counter-productive IS MY POINT.[/quote]
A bastard is a person born out of wedlock. It's not gender derogatory. It applies to men or women. A bitch is a female dog, often directed at women who don't know their place. A woman can also be a bastard a man cannot be a female dog. If it's directed at a man, it means he's acting like a woman. They call men who are being raped in prison, bitches, because they are being dominated by a man. I hope that clears that up for you.

Are you perhaps confusing sarcasm with genuine LTB posts?

We do bandy LTB around for men who like hot milk on their weetabix or don’t put the milk back in the fridge, but generally the serious LTB posts are reserved for an absolute wanker of a man (another lovely derogatory male term for you) who has made his partners life miserable. If you don’t like the idea of that particular person being referred to as a bastard, you might be on the wrong site. The fact that we’re allowed to say dump the cunt and choose the twee acronym LTB instead should get us a pat on the back not a telling off.

@greycloudysky they are BOTH nasty words which I will not use in front of my children. Unfortunately their original definition has been lost over time, due to the way they have been applied. A dictionary definition (I can link you if you like!) states it’s generally applied to a man. Or do you think I should teach my children that bitch is unacceptable, whereas bastard is fine?

@greycloudysky that’s a disgusting comment and I shall report you

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@greycloudysky they are BOTH nasty words which I will not use in front of my children. Unfortunately their original definition has been lost over time, due to the way they have been applied. A dictionary definition (I can link you if you like!) states it’s generally applied to a man. Or do you think I should teach my children that bitch is unacceptable, whereas bastard is fine?[/quote]
Why do you keep doing this false ‘do you actually mean blah blah’ - people are responding to your garbage thread, your misandry, your man hating. You seem weirdly defensive when people try to help you talk through your own prejudices you’re worried are impacting your children. So what exactly do you want from this thread?

@Pumperthepumper utterly ridiculous statement and I’ll report you too, I’ll let mumsnet be the judge

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper utterly ridiculous statement and I’ll report you too, I’ll let mumsnet be the judge[/quote]
This is all from your posts. You’re worried your own misandry is affecting the way you parent your children. Yet when people respond, you change the subject - it’s actually the terminology, oh no, now it’s the police, now it’s the domestic abuse bill. What do you actually want from this thread?

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@blacksax well no make I associate with would react like that if I take my DS to ballet. What century are you in? He is currently using his sisters pink scooter, no one cares.[/quote]
I'm in the same century as everyone else. And as the parent of a professionally trained ballet dancer, I know considerably more about the ballet world than you do.

@FerrisWheelTrain

?What did I do? I suggested that we have - hopefully - progressed further than thinking ‘boys can’t do ballet’ and that I can’t of think of any male I know who would prevent me from taking a boy to a ballet class - as implied in the post. I think I have implicit bias towards gender - which I attempt to challenge e.g if a white van is driving aggressively behind me, I assume it’s a male driver - and may make a comment like ‘stupid man’.

That's not what was implied in the post. It's a fact. My dd went to ballet classes and a friend of ours had a ds who was really keen on dance and gymnastics. He would have been a natural. I suggested it to his parents and the reaction I got from his dad was that no way would he allow it.

We haven't moved on. Ask any dance teacher the percentage of girls vs boys in their dance school who take ballet classes. Some might have one, some schools will have a handful of boys and the rest will have none at all.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/stage/2020/may/26/one-giant-leap-meet-the-new-generation-of-male-royal-ballet-stars
@blacksax @taxi4ballet

So I’d challenge the arse off that Dad and show him this article. I also would not procreate with a male who thinks that way. I don’t hate men, but I hate misogyny.

Just like to say I’m grateful to mumsnet for siding with me and removing that post.

@FerrisWheelTrain

So I’d challenge the arse off that Dad and show him this article. I also would not procreate with a male who thinks that way. I don’t hate men, but I hate misogyny.

But you started a thread to talk about your own misandry - and now you’re being really defensive about it. Why?

@FerrisWheelTrain

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/stage/2020/may/26/one-giant-leap-meet-the-new-generation-of-male-royal-ballet-stars *@blacksax* *@taxi4ballet*

I know who they are - my dd trained with one of them. She's danced at the ROH herself.

So do give it a rest and accept that you know sod all about it.

@FerrisWheelTrain

So I’d challenge the arse off that Dad and show him this article. I also would not procreate with a male who thinks that way. I don’t hate men, but I hate misogyny.

If you were to check my MN posting history, you would find that I have commented on threads about boys doing ballet on a number of occasions in the past.

Too late to challenge that particular dad - his ds is now at university. lol

I bet the OP's ds won't be doing ballet classes any time soon.

@blacksax you brought up ballet! Not me! Clearly I can only aspire to reach your lofty heights, but please indulge me the opportunity to dip my toe in your vast fountain of knowledge - how did that article even get written if there hasn’t been great strides in challenging the assumption that ‘no boy of mine does ballet’? My DP would never say that, and I can’t think of a man I know who would. Please note - I didn’t bring up ballet!!

I vaguely remember (I only ever remember things vaguely) when LTB was first coined, must be a tidy few years ago now. Someone was complaining, as they do, about the man-hating on MN and said that Relationships was far too full of advice to "leave the bastard". Relationships regulars adopted the phrase in a facetious way, and it stuck. I like it, as used, but I wouldn't say it in front of small children either. (I also use the word to inanimate objects such as the brambles I was hacking at this morning, when they hacked me back. Bastards.)

Obviously man is obvious.

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@blacksax you brought up ballet! Not me! Clearly I can only aspire to reach your lofty heights, but please indulge me the opportunity to dip my toe in your vast fountain of knowledge - how did that article even get written if there hasn’t been great strides in challenging the assumption that ‘no boy of mine does ballet’? My DP would never say that, and I can’t think of a man I know who would. Please note - I didn’t bring up ballet!![/quote]
When my dd did her auditions for vocational training, girls outnumbered boys at the auditions by about 80 to 1.

There are boys who do ballet, but not many.

Is there a way to block certain posters, like on twitter?