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To be a true feminism, I need to address my own misandry?

534 replies

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:10

For example - are terms like LTB sexist?

OP posts:
Beseigedbykillersquirrels · 23/03/2021 20:26

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper no, no, no, NO!! I want her to treat her classmates fairly, regardless of gender, race, class etc. I want my son to be accepted and proud of who he is, and not be compelled to behave a certain way.[/quote]
You're wanting different things for your children. Based on their sex. You really don't seem to know which way is up.

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 20:28

@Pumperthepumper I’d actually say you’ve used my words to suit your own gender bias thoughts there.

OP posts:
FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 20:29

@Beseigedbykillersquirrels how exactly - how??

OP posts:
Deadringer · 23/03/2021 20:31

@HermitsLife

OP this is AIBU. Random Stream of Consciousness is next door
Yep.

So you want your dd to think about other people, and treat them well, but you want your ds to be himself, and be treated well. You think you are smashing stereotypes, when you are actually reinforcing them. Wow.

TrialOfStyle · 23/03/2021 20:31

You’ve said it yourself. You want your daughter to be kind to people (boys) who harass her on online games. But you want your son to be proud and free to be who he is.

Misandry is not the argument you are making here (though to be fair, you’ve made about 10 disjointed ones, none of which are about misandry so it’s hard to keep track).

Pumperthepumper · 23/03/2021 20:33

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper I’d actually say you’ve used my words to suit your own gender bias thoughts there.[/quote]
I’ve responded to your points. If you’re worried about the gender roles you’ve forced on your kids, that’s on you.

mbosnz · 23/03/2021 20:33

#Be nice. Especially if you're a girl.

girlfridayoxon · 23/03/2021 20:35

No point arguing with stupid; this person wont listen and don't waste you time trying to convince otherwise! #BeNice

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 20:36

@Deadringer - but DD has a very dominant personality, DS is far more reticent. That’s nothing to do with gender - that just how they are as people. The fact you’ve implied that they ARE behaving that way BECAUSE of their gender is far more telling.

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NiceGerbil · 23/03/2021 20:37

'I don’t want her to assume he smashes up her works BECAUSE he is a boy / or that it’s necessarily gender related at age 10.'

So you are concerned she has misandrist tendancies.

But you decided that some posters are accusing the boy of misogyny (I didn't see posts like that but anyway) and you said he's only 10 what an awful thing to think etc etc

That feels a bit inconsistent.

Beseigedbykillersquirrels · 23/03/2021 20:37

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Beseigedbykillersquirrels how exactly - how??[/quote]
Erm, you said exactly that in the post of yours that I quoted above. You honestly don't seem to know what you're on about yourself so it's no wonder we don't.

SarahBellam · 23/03/2021 20:39

Who’s got a fiver on a 19yo spotty youth intern on a gap year at the Spectator?

Sadlyconforming · 23/03/2021 20:39

Agreed!

NiceGerbil · 23/03/2021 20:39

Does dominant mean not nice to you?

You said your personality is like your daughter's.

You also said she was not good at looking after other people's feelings (not sure why that's her job but ok).

I think you may be projecting your own insecurities onto your daughter. You need to deal with your own issues and self esteem rather than project into a 10yo child.

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 20:41

@mbosnz the fact that you think I ‘shouldn’t’ tell a girl to be nice to a boy, as much as I’d tell her to be nice to another girl is more sexist.

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Pumperthepumper · 23/03/2021 20:43

@SarahBellam

Who’s got a fiver on a 19yo spotty youth intern on a gap year at the Spectator?
Ah, I was going for ‘Man. Stumbled onto #notallmen on Twitter. Got on high-horse. Realised a lot of it was actually relevant to the way he raised his kids. Came into mumsnet to attempt to feel less responsible. Made tit of self’
FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 20:44

So if DD is more aggressive towards DS, then DS to DD - I shouldn’t intervene???

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FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 20:45

If DD wants to push DS off the sofa, that’s perfectly acceptable? Why??

OP posts:
Pumperthepumper · 23/03/2021 20:46

@FerrisWheelTrain

If DD wants to push DS off the sofa, that’s perfectly acceptable? Why??
In your house? Why don’t you put a stop to it? Is this your misandry again?
HermitsLife · 23/03/2021 20:46

OP are you worried about how your kids interact with each other or how they interact with other children? Because that is two separate issues.

BadNomad · 23/03/2021 20:48

Wait. Another child was bad to your daughter, but instead of supporting her decision to remove that negativity from her life, you encouraged her to suppress her feelings for his sake? Because it is the "kind" thing to do? No. No. Teach your daughter to be kind to those who deserve it and to walk away from those who don't if she wishes. That is how you raise a strong PERSON.

Beseigedbykillersquirrels · 23/03/2021 20:48

@FerrisWheelTrain

If DD wants to push DS off the sofa, that’s perfectly acceptable? Why??
Oh look, more verbal vomit added into this thread.
TrialOfStyle · 23/03/2021 20:48

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@mbosnz the fact that you think I ‘shouldn’t’ tell a girl to be nice to a boy, as much as I’d tell her to be nice to another girl is more sexist.[/quote]
She clearly said ‘nice, especially if you are a girl’ rather than be nice, especially to girls - but you know that.

I was interesting to see what points you are making but it’s pretty clear you just want to trip people up to support a non-existent argument. Nice try, but maybe start with one mainline point next time and continue with it.

HermitsLife · 23/03/2021 20:49

@FerrisWheelTrain

If DD wants to push DS off the sofa, that’s perfectly acceptable? Why??
That is not misandry, thats bad behaviour as a parent you need to manage that.
MistressoftheDarkSide · 23/03/2021 20:49

Isn't it possible for different personalities to behave - or misbehave in various ways without having to ascribe gender or sex bias to it?

"We don't push people off the sofa do we, because it's really not nice and someone could get hurt" should cover it for children.

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