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Who was in the wrong? Care assistant or relative?

218 replies

GingerNinjer · 21/03/2021 08:33

Relative visiting a patient in hospital (before Covid obviously). Care assistant asks patient if they want a cup of tea. Patient asks if relative can have one too. Care assistant knows she’s not meant to offer refreshments to relatives but thinks “what’s the harm it could do?” And agrees.
Care assistant takes two mugs of tea into patient and relative. Relative says the mug is a little too full. Care assistant says “you don’t have to drink it all”. Relative says “but I might spill it”. Care assistant gets narky, takes the mug to the sink and pours some tea out of the mug. Relative says there is tea dripping off the mug and it might stain her clothes. Care assistant rolls her eyes and cleans mug with a paper towel. Patient asks if they can have some biscuits. Care assistant goes off and returns with 2 packets of biscuits (each containing 3 biscuits). Relative says “there’s too many biscuits”. Care assistant says “leave what you don’t want”. Relative says “but it’s wasteful”. Care assistant says “then share one packet”. Patient says “there isn’t enough in one packet to share”. Care assistant says “the biscuits come in packs of 3, do you want them or not?” Relative says “can you take one biscuit away?” Care assistant says “no I’m busy now, just leave what you don’t want on the table”. Relative says “but it’s messy, crumbs will get everywhere”. Care assistant snaps and says “oh well!” And walks out.

Patient and relative complain about care assistant. Care assistant gets a talking to for a) giving refreshments to relatives and b) being rude to patient and relatives

YABU - care assistant was in the wrong
YANBU - care assistant did nothing wrong

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GingerNinjer · 21/03/2021 08:45

I was the care assistant, yes. I was doing my nurse training and a single parent. I was struggling and just trying to get through each shift without a drama. This episode keeps coming back to haunt me, I just can’t stop getting angry about it. I want to quit nursing but can’t do anything else. Obviously this wasn’t an isolated incident but one that stands out as an example of why you just can’t win in this profession.

I’m also considering counselling 😂 (not just for this obviously, but my inability to get over stuff).

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Beseigedbykillersquirrels · 21/03/2021 08:46

Oh my God, the relative is absolutely dreadful. They seem to think the care assistant is there to cater to their every and exact whim. What an unpleasant, demanding, entitled busybody. They can get fucked.

GingerNinjer · 21/03/2021 08:47

I admit I was narky with them. I should have just stopped the situation right from the start but it snowballed and I didn’t know what to do.

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Chocolateoatmilk · 21/03/2021 08:47

But ginger while I’m really sorry you went through that and the relative was a PITA surely you can accept huffing and rolling your eyes and stomping about wasn’t a good way to deal with it?

CupoTeap · 21/03/2021 08:49

So you know the relative was a knot head, what is it that bothers you? That you made the tea, or that you became unprofessional?

GingerNinjer · 21/03/2021 08:50

@Chocolateoatmilk

But ginger while I’m really sorry you went through that and the relative was a PITA surely you can accept huffing and rolling your eyes and stomping about wasn’t a good way to deal with it?
Absolutely. I know I was at fault too. I just wish I’d never got her the bloody drink to start with.
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Uronmute · 21/03/2021 08:51

The relative clearly thinks they are in some kind of hotel. They are totally in the wrong

Chocolateoatmilk · 21/03/2021 08:51

To be fair though ginger when I worked in McDonald’s as a teenager one woman was so bloody rude to me I was so tempted to lob her strawberry milkshake over her! So having said that you did well!

Strangekindofwoman · 21/03/2021 08:51

I thought you were quite restrained.

GingerNinjer · 21/03/2021 08:51

@CupoTeap

So you know the relative was a knot head, what is it that bothers you? That you made the tea, or that you became unprofessional?
That I didn’t have the balls to say no. I struggle with confrontation and assertiveness which makes me passive aggressive and I hate it. I’ve always been the same, I recognise it as one of my major faults.
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AnnaMagnani · 21/03/2021 08:53

Every time I've ever had a complaint in medicine, it was from someone I had gone the extra mile for.

The first one really hurt.

After a few I could see the pattern. People are bastards.

I have enough glowing feedback to know I'm good at my job and now when I complaint happens, I just let the process take care of it. Some people just have to have their moment.

HeyBigBrenda · 21/03/2021 08:53

In the kindest way, OP, you need to grow a thicker skin ASAP if this is a job you want to continue in.

cameocat · 21/03/2021 08:53

You're right to wish you hadn't got her a drink as your good deed wasn't appreciated and she was a total arse. Nevertheless you do need to get over it. People can be weird and difficult and that part absolutely isn't your fault. Please learn to let it go, you're angry because you were trying to be kind and they didn't treat you with the same respect. Don't let it affect you, it was more than a year ago.

Whocares2021 · 21/03/2021 08:56

People are knobs - this kind of thing will happen again it’s part of working with the public.

Sansaplans · 21/03/2021 08:57

But you've learnt from it OP, sadly the lesson is 'dont bother' going the extra mile if it falls out of guidelines, but please try not to let it cloud your future in nursing.

EiffelPower · 21/03/2021 08:58

You definitely need to grow some ovaries, it's going to get much worse than tea and biscuits! (NHS nurse 30 years)

mumwon · 21/03/2021 08:58

try to forget it
you will know better next time & there are always awkward people & when you work with people & their relatives there is always going to get someone who reckons you are a servant or is ungrateful.
However, for everyone of these you will find more people who will not expect anything and/or be grateful for everything you do for their relatives.
You will have to learn to brush this off or you won't enjoy the work

GingerNinjer · 21/03/2021 09:00

Should probably point out that this happened a long time ago. I’ve been a qualified nurse for 6 years now. I know it’s ridiculous to still be whining about it but as I said, other similar things have happened since and I just feel so angry about it all.

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BrumBoo · 21/03/2021 09:01

The relative would have needed their own hospital bed to have biscuits removed from certain orifices if this had been. That's why I don't work in care though. You weren't being unreasonable at all, not even the 'oh well'.

Racoonworld · 21/03/2021 09:03

6 years and you’re still angry about it? You really need to get over it, it was one annoying person and doesn’t sound that big a deal tbh. Pretty much a non-event that you both took a bit too far.

camsue · 21/03/2021 09:05

Get that counselling! Working with the public means you will get requests for things you can't do. Work on your self esteem so you can stick to procedures without feeling personally got at. You can never please everyone.

Kroptopbelly · 21/03/2021 09:07

I get you OP, I’m the same.
I think it’s the injustice of it that sticks in your mind isn’t it.
You didn’t deserve to be spoken to like that, you didn’t deserve to be told off and you were doing a nice thing which you didn’t have to do and didn’t have time to do but you did.
It’s injustice.
People are twats.

Marvelwife123 · 21/03/2021 09:09

Both, relative is a grade a * but if the care assistant hadn’t broken the rules it wouldn’t have happened. Probably why the rules were put in place as there will have been other relatives similar in the past.

Arbadacarba · 21/03/2021 09:10

Well, I'd have been tempted to pour the cup of tea over her head, so YANBU.

EternalOptimist7 · 21/03/2021 09:12

I love “ grow some ovaries”! Never heard that before!