To think fuck you to those living in big houses who are following the rules?

[Hammyhamster92]

I have noticed swathe of happily married friends, in jobs they could do from home, in big houses with big gardens bitching about people not following the covid rules.

There seems to be no sympathy from these people that a large number of people not following the rules are, ( from personal experiences I know of)

1. Sharing a one bedroom flat with their two children, and no garden.

2. Living in a shared HMO where the landlord has turned the living room into another bedroom and there isno garden and no communal area.

3. Living with violent, abusive, toxic people.

4. Are bereaved.

5. Are unable to share or bubble with their partner, but don't feel they should have no contact for months.

I had a massive row with a friend today, ( call her lucy). Lucy asked what I was doing for the weekend, and I said I was going to visit ( "charlotte") as Charlotte has had a very horrible bereavment recently, ( cousin she was very close to died unexpectedly in a road accident) and was really struggling and has asked for a visit.

Consequently , I've been called all the names under the sun, I'm selfish/ horrible etc, and more so because I have to travel by train, ( I can't drive for medical reasons). Utterly sick of this shit, and it seems that some people who are living in a middle class bubble of perfection can't imagine the difficulties lockdown has caused others.

Literally nobody has said that.

Oh yes, someone did.

What a surprise that privlidged people don't have much empathy!

you’re right, it has only come from people who have nice houses, with jobs that they can still comfortably do, and happy loving families at home. So yeah fuck ‘em.*

Here are two particular gems from this thread to illustrate that point.

you’re right, it has only come from people who have nice houses, with jobs that they can still comfortably do, and happy loving families at home. So yeah fuck ‘em.

Second quote re pasted as bold fail

Lovely quotes, those two.

My personal faves.

You are not being unreasonable. It’s been a year now. The fact we are still living with these restrictions is ridiculous.

I was initially very pro lockdown (although I’m a front line worker so haven’t had the luxury of working at home or furlough or ‘staying the fuck home’ or whatever other bollocks idiots were shouting). I thought it bought us time to prevent the nhs from being overwhelmed. A year down the line and we’re still in lockdown ? Fuck that. If the nhs is at risk of being overwhelmed then the govt need to bloody fund it properly, don’t they? It’s all a joke now and enough is absolutely enough.

The ironic thing is it's well known the wealthiest are the least likely to follow the rules.

Can you imagine if I started a thread with the title:

"AIBU to think fuck you to those living in small houses who are following the rules"

I'd be rightly heavily criticised by people living in small houses who feel that's an extremely unfair generalised insult.

But apparently - if your house is bigger than some else's, you're fair game for verbal insults.

4) Are bereaved.
As awful as this is, Risking the lives of others won't change the death of their loved one.

I honestly can't believe some of the comments on here about giving support to the bereaved. Someone else said people would just have to be comforted via facetime. Do you really genuinely think that bereaved people who live alone should be left to cope with their grief and loss all by themselves? No hugs, sitting alone every evening, going to bed in an empty home, nobody to talk to,nobody to comfort them,having to wait for someone to be available for a facetime call before they can be comforted? Having to stand in a park 2m away from a friend and cry their eyes out over their loss while watched by everyone out for their daily exercise? Comfort over facetime or from a 2m distance just doesn't cut it for some people.

I was in bits and in shock after my dad died. If I didn't have my DP, what should I have done? When my sibling phoned me at 6am to tell me they had found my dad dead on the bathroom floor what should I have done? Should I have spent the next few days alternating between sobbing and sitting on the bed repeating "I don't know what I'm supposed to do" over and over? Should I have starved myself for a few days because I couldn't function well enough to cook or to go food shopping? Do you really think that in a humane society the bereaved should be abandoned for the "greater good"? Are people really that heartless? No it won't bring their loved one back but being supported in person might well save the mental health and even the life of the bereaved person.

@unforgotten23

The ironic thing is it's well known the wealthiest are the least likely to follow the rules.

Eh? How did you reach that conclusion?

Lucy is a dick. Yes rules are rules. Most of us try and live by them but there comes a point where human connection and love and support has to come first. Exactly as in the circumstances you described where you’re supporting someone who is grieving

@Shopliftersoftheworldunite

You are not being unreasonable. It’s been a year now. The fact we are still living with these restrictions is ridiculous.

I was initially very pro lockdown (although I’m a front line worker so haven’t had the luxury of working at home or furlough or ‘staying the fuck home’ or whatever other bollocks idiots were shouting). I thought it bought us time to prevent the nhs from being overwhelmed. A year down the line and we’re still in lockdown ? Fuck that. If the nhs is at risk of being overwhelmed then the govt need to bloody fund it properly, don’t they? It’s all a joke now and enough is absolutely enough.

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@LucieStar why are you getting so wound up? It’s really not that deep unless you’re the Lucy in the OP

I had a hilarious situation whereby I was torn a new one for holding hands with my non resident DP by someone who had that very day had a secret haircut during first lockdown. She is extraordinarily wealthy and has been shielded from nearly every difficulty us mortals have had to endure.
Fuck her.
Fuck people like her.

Fuck her.
Fuck people like her.

basically the attitude of most people in the UK

[quote Oodilallygolly]@LucieStar why are you getting so wound up? It’s really not that deep unless you’re the Lucy in the OP[/quote]

Wound up? You took that from my post?

I'm not in the slightest wound up, I'm reflecting (perfectly calmly actually) on how unpleasant I believe it is to start a thread with the title "fuck you to this entire group of people". And the various other generalisations that have been made on the thread about people based on the size of their homes, which would be rightly called out the opposite way around.

No, I'm not the Lucy from the OP. I have something called empathy for other humans, for a start. Something that appears to be missing in large swaths of the general population at the moment, as evidenced by this thread.

Everyone who breaks the rules seems to have a sob story to go with it.

Including the ones in large houses.

I’ve got the big house and garden etc but I’m not following the rules because my in laws are in a ,tiny terrace that unsuitable for their needs and fil is struggling to deal with mil who has dementia. They live in a rough area where they feel unsafe to go out.

So they come to our house to visit (respite care). Fil ended up in hospital last summer and has already been having counselling for suicidal thoughts. I would absolutely judge all the idiots who are having parties/large gatherings. I would not judge anyone who went to see their parents or a friend in need.

I have followed the rules to the letter. Since Christmas I have only been to work. No where else. I caught Covid. I must have caught it at work from other who presumably didn’t follow the rules.

This is an example of the lack of common sense around Covid. Yes, you caught it from someone but they didn't necessarily break the rules. The virus doesn't discriminate between those who follow the rules and those who don't.

Sorry for your loss @RichardMarxisinnocent. I could not visit my bereaved mother at all during the first lockdown and it was very difficult. Some people definitely do not understand bereavement on this thread.

Yabnu. I notice these kind of people have been erased out of public consciousness because the media doesn't think about them and the government and their scientists don't think about them, because almost everyone they know socially and through family are the comfortably off. I say this as someone comfortably off who can also forget at times. I wish I was forcibly reminded more often to be honest. Lockdown has so many awful points but the social snobbery is one of the most distasteful. I hope you're able to support your friend.

Just because your friend is nasty, you can’t generalise so massively, @Hammyhamster92.

Dh and I fall into the category of people you think are so despicable, and we have every sympathy for people who haven’t had the advantages we have, during lockdown.

There is not a lot we can do to alleviate their problems, but we have seriously increased what we give to charity, in hopes of helping some people.

I love how @LucieStar is calmly posting and calling out the really judgemental comments on this thread.
And for calmly, rationally doing so, the defence / provocation of some posters is to ask her why she’s getting wound up?

This really is a vile thread. And if this is how people actually view those of us who have larger houses, then it’s a sad day. I could not even comprehend starting a reverse of this thread.

And apparently people like me lack empathy?

I think it’s appalling that some posters feel it’s fine to slag off people with big houses but presumably wouldn’t dare criticise people living in poverty. Very two-faced eh?

@sassbott

I love how *@LucieStar* is calmly posting and calling out the really judgemental comments on this thread. And for calmly, rationally doing so, the defence / provocation of some posters is to ask her why she’s getting wound up?

This really is a vile thread. And if this is how people actually view those of us who have larger houses, then it’s a sad day. I could not even comprehend starting a reverse of this thread.

And apparently people like me lack empathy?

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@Xenia

Despite living in a big house I have been utterly against all the rules as they breach human rights, since March 2020. I have not wavered. I would rather my risk of death were increase by 100x than have the measures in place. the state has banned marriage entirely. you cannot leave your house except for limited reasons. It has virtually banned sex and relationships. It has robbed students of their lives at university whilst taking huge fees from them and big rents from their parents. it has stopped small children having an education despite the children not being at risk of covid. It has destroyed vast swathes of industry from pubs to air lines and then handed money o ut hand over fist which will have to be paid back over 100 years by young people The UK is not unique in this. Most states have also chosen to rob people of their freedoms to ensure a few older/sick people live a few more years.

Liberty or death. Life in chains is not a life.

Did you think the same about Ebola?
Or would you think the same if it wasn't old people dying in such numbers but children?