To quit my job but hope they convince me to stay?

[Ladderclimber]

Is there an acceptable way to go about this?

I've been offered a job that is more money, working from home and a better job title.

I love my current company. They're amazing to work for and it's a safe job and the work is interesting. But I should be on a more senior job title for the work I'm doing and I really want to work fully from home. They've said that nobody will be working from home after Covid (blended model planned). I don't mind going into the office ad hoc but I don't want to do set days a week as my role can be done fully from home (as evidenced by the past year and new job!)

I know that they wouldn't want me to leave as it was hard to recruit me as I have very niche skills (I got recruited fast when I went sniffing around). I don't mind if they don't match the salary I've been offered, it's the title (that matches what I do better) and the home working.

They might just accept my resignation, which is fine, but is there a way to not seem like a knob while also saying 'I quit but I really want to stay if you'll give in to my demands?' To be fair, I've never asked them for what I want, but I don't think they'd want to set a post-covid precedent of fully home working just based on me asking, as they've been really clear that nobody will be.

I haven't accepted the job I've been offered but will have to soon. They haven't interviewed anyone else so nobody else in the wings waiting.

YABU: Quit if you want to quit but don't try to negotiate
YANBU: It's fine to use another job offer to negotiate

Quit if you are happy with the new job and offer. I would only stay if the current role offers you more.

@BullOx

Quit if you are happy with the new job and offer. I would only stay if the current role offers you more.

If I could have the homeworking and title with my current job, I would rather stay.

If not, the balance is towards the new job.

Only do it if you are prepared to take the new role and for the original tile to wave goodbye. No one is indispensable.

Talk to your manager simple

I'd have a chat with your boss and not resign, but say I've been offered this job, I'd also be happy to stay, but I'd like you to match the title, and a bit more money, but you don't need to match it as you are generally happy there. Perhaps say you will give them the letter on Monday, but thought you'd give them the chance to make a counteroffer if they would like to.

You don’t have to quit, say you’ve been offered another job on better terms and you want to know whether they can match them before you make a decision.

Thank you so much, that's exactly the kind of thing I needed to know. I have never left a job except for a job that was better and I wanted more, so I wasn't sure if this was a normal thing to do or outrageously cheeky.

Please tell them what you want, explain what you’ve said that you do really want to stay and that you love the company, but that home working and the job title are important to you.

Could you say I have been offered xyz but if you can match it I'd prefer to stay?

I'm also slightly worried that even if they agree they'll be annoyed that I've kind of strong-armed them...

You worry too much. If they don't want to match the offer they won't no matter how much you strong arm them. Everyone is replaceable xx

Good luck and keep us posted x

Yes try to negotiate. I understand your wfh preference (though I don’t share it).

What is the significance of the more senior job title? I can understand if it entails different work, responsibility or pay scale or is it genuinely the actual title?

Why would you not just talk to them?
There's a big gap between staying silent and quitting.

@Ladderclimber

I'm also slightly worried that even if they agree they'll be annoyed that I've kind of strong-armed them...

Now I know you are a woman!

Men don't (generally) get anxious about these things. I think it is perfectly acceptable to say I've been offered x with y company, and whilst I will be sad to leave here it would be foolish to turn this down. I've been very happy here. Can you match this offer?

It is calm, clear and professional - and you say you are in a niche job. They should value this.

Please don't then be overthinking that they will not 'like' you as much. You have simply shown that you know your worth.

Yep, shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t just talk to them. What’s the worst that can happen, they say no and you accept the new job?

Why did you look for another job in the first place?

If you want to work from home full time in either role then why not just make the jump? Your not gonna have to see either team either way?

Tell them you want to resign and explain why you have chosen to move on. If they want to keep you, you might be able to negotiate terms. If not, switch jobs. The new one sounds far better suited in every way, so it's only risk-aversion keeping you there.

You've had very good advice on how to phrase it.

@Iwillgotothegym

Yes try to negotiate. I understand your wfh preference (though I don’t share it).

What is the significance of the more senior job title? I can understand if it entails different work, responsibility or pay scale or is it genuinely the actual title?

I guess it's partly my ego...

I guess it's also important in case I do move to other roles in the future, so they can instantly see the level I'm working at, though clearly hasn't been an issue this time!

This is a really common thing to do and you shouldn’t be at all worried. You can do this in a really positive way saying that you have been made this offer, you’d rather stay, but would like to make xxxxx amends.
Please please consider asking about a salary increase. It is a very female trait to under value yourself and you should know your worth! They can only say no, in which case you take the new job. Win win!

1. Don't hand in your resignation until you have a written job offer/contract to sign/etc. from the new company.

2. I'd be cautious in approach if you really want to keep your current job. State that you love your job and that you're only looking elsewhere because they're not giving you the change in job title/WFH and is there any way that can change?

3. Accept that this kind of negotiating is always a risk and you may not be trusted to stick around in future (this could affect future planning/decision making).

4. If the new company is offering you what you want plus a pay rise... why not take it?!

And @Ginmebaby is right, you shouldn't be afraid to ask for more money!

Now I know you are a woman!

Yes, I am.

Men don't (generally) get anxious about these things. I think it is perfectly acceptable to say I've been offered x with y company, and whilst I will be sad to leave here it would be foolish to turn this down. I've been very happy here. Can you match this offer?

That's such perfect wording and I'm quite embarrassed with myself for agonising so much to be honest!

It is calm, clear and professional - and you say you are in a niche job. They should value this.

Please don't then be overthinking that they will not 'like' you as much. You have simply shown that you know your worth.

Thank you so much for the brilliant advice @NovemberR and everyone.

@Ginmebaby

This is a really common thing to do and you shouldn’t be at all worried. You can do this in a really positive way saying that you have been made this offer, you’d rather stay, but would like to make xxxxx amends. Please please consider asking about a salary increase. It is a very female trait to under value yourself and you should know your worth! They can only say no, in which case you take the new job. Win win!

Thank you, that's really great to hear. I know what you mean about the money. I guess I'm trying to make it as easy as possible for them to keep me as I'd rather stay, which is a bit silly.