AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

[MishaHarrow]

AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

Surely large/larger or big/bigger sounds better?

Either you started this thread because you like calling people large now that you no longer are, because it makes you feel better than them. Or you for some reason don't understand that it's completely normal for different people to prefer different wording for things. In either case, YABU.

GreenWillow, because im personally going through trying to help myself to recover from binge eating disorder and the first step in recovery is to get off the diet roundabout, to look at them as harmful, to work on being ok with your body. And to see myself as abnormal makes me feel the shame and guilt and it makes me want to start the binge eating cycle , im obviously more sensitive to it. But the diet culture is not a healthy thing i personally belive. I want to challenge it before people get to the disorder part

@RoseLimeade

Bit off topic but the mention of BMI has led to me experimenting with the NHS calculator, and what a great tool. It gives you a daily calorie goal to lose a specific amount of weight as soon as you calculate. And if you’re very obese it even encourages you to achieve a manageable goal, by stating that ‘losing even 5% of your weight will really benefit your health’ then saying what amount to eat to lose that at what pace.

So much more encouraging and helpful than just saying you’re obese and leaving it at that, or saying you need to lose several stones. Very impressive as a public health tool.

Yes - I have found it very useful while losing weight.

Also, there is a very clear warning about eating disorders if you enter an underweight BMI (my husband's BMI, not mine, obviously).

Totally agree - a very well-designed tool.

Wow! Your language is awful 'normal' lol

If you're not currently plus size you don't get to decide. Yabu as it has nothing to do with you.

And to be clear im not saying u personally is going to make me binge im just saying generally i mean how on earth is anyone who is struggling witj their weight going to be able to break the dieting cycle if we are being told that we should feel abnormal like there is something wrong with us

Ive started follwing drjoshuawolrich on Instagram he looks at the weight stigma

Again. Someone's normal is their normal and that's it.

[quote WorraLiberty]@GreyhoundG1rl actually I think I'm wrong.

It's not 'normal weight', it's 'healthy weight'.

I'm pretty sure it used to say normal at one time though? Then again, with 64% of the population being overweight or obese, 'normal' wouldn't make sense anymore I guess.[/quote]
Youre not wrong, it definitely did used to say underweight, normal, overweight, and obese.

It has changed over the last couple of years I guess.

@Duggeehugs82

I find the "i was once overweight and now im normal " somehow explaining overweight as abnormal is quite insulting.

I never said that, you are chopping and changing my words....

And in my case, I gained a lot of weight within a year (and became definitely overweight), then 2 years later began to reduce it to back to what I was before, and no longer overweight / aka my usual (is this word better?) weight.

I don’t know why we have to have a term for it. People making a comment on the size of someone else is unnecessary. If it’s medical then medical terms can be hardcore anything else is irrelevant.
Unless you are buying the food for them or having to lift them up, the size that someone is has nothing to do with anyone else.

God knows where hardcore came from! Medical terms like obese can be used.

Well tbf medical term can be hardcore (to pronounce)😁

I think just sizes would better. And more of them too! I don't know about other people, but sometimes you're too big for one size, and too small for the next size up. Annoying. This is whether you are "large" or "small". Clothes that fir and that have universal sizing would be great.

*fit

Mate you’re just a bit of a dickhead yea? I prefer that to ignorant.

Does anyone remember Evans Outsize?? Every time my gran said it I hated it. But that’s where I had to shop being a size 18. No where stocked size 18. Now plus size can range from as low as a 14. I danced all the way to a normal clothes shop as soon as I was small enough.

@BakedTattie

Mate you’re just a bit of a dickhead yea? I prefer that to ignorant.

How am I ignorant for disliking recently made up terminology?

@GreyhoundG1rl

That the OP has used one of the NHS 4 BMI categories to describe her weight? confused Do they really categorise a certain weight as normal? How do they describe weights in excess of this?

Obese.

Weight is hugely emotive. Lots of people are in denial. There are a lot fat, unhealthy people.

Interesting plus size should fit differently. I guess in the way petite for those shorter than average should fit differently. Not just 'normal shrunk down'.

So people hopefully get clothes that fit their body shape and proportions, not just 1 size scaled up or down.

@FatAnneTheDealer a US 14 is a UK 18.

Plus size is a good description of clothes because it relates to clothes sizing. I wouldn't use it for a person, because they are a person, not a size.

I describe myself (size 20-22) as fat. I'm not 'large' or 'big' - I'm only 5'4. I'm not particularly 'curvy' - I'm basically barrel shaped. I'm fat and I would much rather people be honest about that than try to find some other euphemism.

Depending on where you shop a ‘plus size’ could be anything over a size 10. In some European and US shops even plus size options only go up to a 14-16 and beyond that you need to go to special shops. In India and South East Asia a lot of shops consider anything over a size 8 as a plus size, but will only go up to a 12-14. If you want anything bigger you make it yourself. So it doesn’t always mean large.

How am I ignorant for disliking recently made up terminology?

Because you dont get to decide that the terminology is not to your liking when it does not refer to you just because you pit on a bit of weight for a couple of years.

I am plus size (24-26) I am not an idiot, I know I am fat but that word is filled with judgemental connotations. Terms like "curvy" feel patronising and "bigger"/"larger" are also judgemental words (biggger/larger infers that "normal" is thinner/smaller) so I prefer plus size as it is factual without the same judgemental connotation

I'm on the fence.

We are told that this is the era of Body Positivity and 'fat acceptance', while at the same time almost every single manufacturer, magazine, app or media page make a point of only using flattering language as a possible descriptive for being overweight. Curvy, plus sized, rounded, thicc, womanly, voluptuous, etc.
That doesn't sound like acceptance, it sounds like straight up promotion really, and society as a whole shouldn't be promoting and downplaying how serious morbid obesity is to the average person, the same way it should not promote being unhealthily underweight either.

We need to see overweight as being abnormal, I’m honestly staggered at how a whole nation seems quite happy to be deprived of their liberty in order to protect the NHS, yet going on a diet (which would undoubtedly be of huge benefit the NHS) is somehow ‘insulting’

Calling fellow plus size buyers. @GreenWillow has the answer! All we have to do is go on a diet and we'll be slim! Who knew It is so easy, why didn't I think of this before

Hold on, I think I see a flaw here............