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AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

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MishaHarrow · 17/03/2021 17:40

AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

Surely large/larger or big/bigger sounds better?

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cripez · 18/03/2021 11:13

@HeadLikeAFuckinOrange

If all shops were size inclusive there would be no need to label the higher sizes as anything, they would simply be clothes.

But then wouldn't there be an outcry when the size 18 dress cost more than the size 8?
Larger sizes require more material to make, that's just fact. I imagine part of the reason there are separate departments with different designs in them is to stop calls of discrimination because you're effectively paying more to be equally dressed.

I would like to think companies can suck up the difference in the amount of fabric used between me and somebody half my size, I am pretty sure they can afford it
cripez · 18/03/2021 11:14

@SchrodingersImmigrant

If all shops were size inclusive there would be no need to label the higher sizes as anything, they would simply be clothes. Which of course is what they are anyway.

Then there is also no need for petite, tall etc. It needs label because they are not supposed to be same like small size just bigger. They are supoosed to be bit differently designed.

I can guarantee my size 22 t shirt is no differently designed to a size 14 one. It's just bigger.
SchrodingersImmigrant · 18/03/2021 11:16

I would like to think companies can suck up the difference in the amount of fabric used between me and somebody half my size, I am pretty sure they can afford it

Why shpuld they. They are business

Graciebobcat · 18/03/2021 11:17

Why does there have to be any concept of "Plus Size" at all? People come in all shapes and sizes and clothes sizing particularly for women is really odd at the best of times.

cripez · 18/03/2021 11:19

@SchrodingersImmigrant

I would like to think companies can suck up the difference in the amount of fabric used between me and somebody half my size, I am pretty sure they can afford it

Why shpuld they. They are business

Why should somebody with an eating disorder pay less to be clothed than me? Because that doesn't seem very fair.
greeneyedlulu · 18/03/2021 11:21

Plus size sounds better when you're talking about my bum, large is better when you're offering me a glass of wine!

Graciebobcat · 18/03/2021 11:22

Also comments like "We need to see being overweight as abnormal" are preposterous. You can live in whatever cloud cuckoo land you choose of course, and "see" things how you like, but when the majority of adults (63%) are at least overweight, being overweight is most definitely "normal".

SchrodingersImmigrant · 18/03/2021 11:24

Why should somebody with an eating disorder pay less to be clothed than me? Because that doesn't seem very fair

Confused That's just... Wow. Erm, most slim people don't have eating disorders.

It's like arguing that extras in a restaurant should be free because someone is naturally more hungry. Or why someone with short hair paulys less in a hairdressers.

PussGirl · 18/03/2021 11:26

"Big" as a term for fat / obese / plus size irritates me

To me a "big" person is tall & broad, as well as being well-muscled if a man & curvy if a woman.

Regarding "curvy" - overweight women are not curvy unless they go in at the waist & have well-defined boobs and hips, just like us slim curvy women, only larger.

Just because being overweight/obese has become the norm it is not normal

thecatandthevicar · 18/03/2021 11:35

Flattering people and pretending being obese or just fat is "curvy" or "plus size" is good for business, not so good for our society.

You can't factually use the word overweight without being accused of "fat shaming" Hmm

It's normalising and accepting unhealthy conditions.
It's interesting and telling that society is not so accepting of "slimmer sizes" . Petite tends to cover height, not smaller sizes.

thecatandthevicar · 18/03/2021 11:37

Why should somebody with an eating disorder pay less to be clothed than me? Because that doesn't seem very fair.

😂

you seem to be the one with an eating disorder. Someone with a healthy and slim body is what the goal should be.

Bilquis · 18/03/2021 11:39

I get more wound up by 'real woman' than plus size. I'm sorry are only overweight people real now. Can a slim, fit women not exist, is she somehow fake.
I don't care what term is used to describe over weight /obese women (let's face it none of these terms are aimed at men) as long as the term used isn't meant as a slight against women who take care of their health and weight.
I am one stone overweight by the way and just use overweight or slightly larger to describe myself. There is nothing positive about me putting weight on in lockdown to the point I need to lose a stone to hit a BMI of 25

cripez · 18/03/2021 11:42

@thecatandthevicar

Why should somebody with an eating disorder pay less to be clothed than me? Because that doesn't seem very fair.

😂

you seem to be the one with an eating disorder. Someone with a healthy and slim body is what the goal should be.

Aren't you lovely?
thecatandthevicar · 18/03/2021 11:43

cripez

No, you can't turn it around, accuse anyone with a slim body to have "an eating disorder" then get offended when you get called about it!

cripez · 18/03/2021 11:44

@thecatandthevicar

cripez

No, you can't turn it around, accuse anyone with a slim body to have "an eating disorder" then get offended when you get called about it!

I haven't been called on anything other than being a massive fatty
thecatandthevicar · 18/03/2021 11:48

@GreyhoundG1rl

They stock size 6 don't they? I'd wager there are more size 20 women in the U.K. than size 6... Gap jeans start at size 2. I've always wondered why. How many grown women are size 2?
If it's a US 2, it's a UK 34 or EU6.

nothing unreasonable or unusual. Shame people think that the norm should be a size 14/16 (us 10/12). That's big!

GreyhoundG1rl · 18/03/2021 11:53

I'm not sure if it's US or UK sizing, but they also go up to 24, so if it's US that's pretty big...

thecatandthevicar · 18/03/2021 11:56

They do advertise going to a size UK 54 on their site! (Us 22 or xxl)Shock

That is quite something! Even if you buy a "normal" tshirt to be used as maternity!

cripez · 18/03/2021 11:59

The norm is the U.K. is a 16. Much nearer to a 20 than a 6.

thecatandthevicar · 18/03/2021 12:03

The norm is the U.K. is a 16.

You mean the "average"? Yes, the UK is grossly overweight which is very embarrassing, but as it's an AVERAGE, size 6 is far from outrageous.

HeadLikeAFuckinOrange · 18/03/2021 12:04

Why should somebody with an eating disorder pay less to be clothed than me? Because that doesn't seem very fair.

Isn't eating far more food than one actually requires to function a disorder in itself? Not being goady, but if it isn't considered a disorder to keep eating after your body has enough, it should be.

Graciebobcat · 18/03/2021 12:04

has become the norm it is not normal

Please could you make the distinction between "has become the norm" and "normal", as it seems like splitting hairs to me.

PussGirl · 18/03/2021 12:06

The norm is what is commonplace

Normal is what it is supposed to be

PussGirl · 18/03/2021 12:06

Hope that makes sense

Ecdysis · 18/03/2021 12:12

@MidsummersNightie

Or the Outsize Shop
I bloody love this, made me Grin and I'm definitely an Outsized shopper.
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