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AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

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MishaHarrow · 17/03/2021 17:40

AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

Surely large/larger or big/bigger sounds better?

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SchrodingersImmigrant · 20/03/2021 12:04

I am not going to engage with this further. You obviously will keep to your truth that 60kg at 170cm is overweight fat or whatever and that we are all just delusional 🤷🏻

Fine. You have issues

GreyhoundG1rl · 20/03/2021 12:07

The NHS BMI calculator gives a range of 8st 6lb - 11st 5lb in the "healthy weight" category for a 5'7" woman.

alittleprivacy · 20/03/2021 12:14

@thecatandthevicar My daughter is around that height, as she is younger, she would be severely overweight at 9.4 stones.

How old is your daughter? Children and teenagers have a completely different weight scale to adults. It's normal for smaller adults to weigh more than taller teenagers. Our musculoskeletal system is very different while it's still growing to how it becomes in the years after we reach our full height. Bone mineral density and muscle parameters change drastically in early adulthood, the age varies depending on when we stop growing up but generally in our early 20s we will reach our baseline adult weight. (I know this as I'm smaller than most teens but my weight is more and I need to be careful about buying certain types of athletic equipment.) This can obviously change as our activity and eating habits will change our muscle size, bone density and body fat percentage.

thecatandthevicar · 20/03/2021 12:37

SchrodingersImmigrant

I don't have issues but thanks Grin

But I do know that some people make themselves feel better by pretending that slimmer women are unhealthy, have eating disorder and the like.

Thankfully it's still possible to be 1m70 and wear size 8 or 10 without "issues".

SchrodingersImmigrant · 20/03/2021 12:39

I didn't say slimmer women are unhealthy. That would be quite stupid🤷🏻

People claiming 60kg at 170cm is fat are unhealthy

GreyhoundG1rl · 20/03/2021 13:10

The argument is that "fatter" (above 9st !) women are unhealthy, not slim women Confused. Talk about a straw man!

KatherineJaneway · 20/03/2021 14:29

I don't have issues but thanks Grin

You clearly do

Oh stop it. 60kg for 170cm is absolutely ideal weight.

Exactly

Next thing we'll be told is Thecat 'eats like a bird'

SchrodingersImmigrant · 20/03/2021 14:32

"rating like a bird" makes me giggle because birds eat on average half their own body weight in food dvery day😂

80sMum · 20/03/2021 14:42

@FatAnneTheDealer

I have recently learned that in the UK in many shops there are "misses"sizes (2,4,6,8 etc) that I think go up to 14 (which is a UK 16). After that it is "women's" sizes 1,2,3. I'm not sure what others think about that. I suppose it honestly reflects that many women, as they get older, don't fit the same size schedule they did in their youth. And there is no direct language stigma. I suppose on the other hand it could be argued that it normalises obesity - too many Americans are overweight - at least from a health perspective.

I'm not sure what's best!

I've never come across that in the UK. I thought it was the USA that had those categories? In the US they also have "juniors", which I think is intended to fit teenagers, who are deemed to have a less curvy physique. I found it quite confusing, because a size 6 in Juniors is of course not the same as a 6 in Miss, as the proportions are different.

In children's clothes they used to have standard sizes and "husky" sizes, with husky being a euphemism for overweight.

80sMum · 20/03/2021 14:42

@FatAnneTheDealer

I have recently learned that in the UK in many shops there are "misses"sizes (2,4,6,8 etc) that I think go up to 14 (which is a UK 16). After that it is "women's" sizes 1,2,3. I'm not sure what others think about that. I suppose it honestly reflects that many women, as they get older, don't fit the same size schedule they did in their youth. And there is no direct language stigma. I suppose on the other hand it could be argued that it normalises obesity - too many Americans are overweight - at least from a health perspective.

I'm not sure what's best!

I've never come across that in the UK. I thought it was the USA that had those categories? In the US they also have "juniors", which I think is intended to fit teenagers, who are deemed to have a less curvy physique. I found it quite confusing, because a size 6 in Juniors is of course not the same as a 6 in Miss, as the proportions are different.

In children's clothes they used to have standard sizes and "husky" sizes, with husky being a euphemism for overweight.

KatherineJaneway · 20/03/2021 14:48

@SchrodingersImmigrant

"rating like a bird" makes me giggle because birds eat on average half their own body weight in food dvery day😂
It was always a term I heard as a child, meant to make you feel as if you were a fat bastard if you enjoyed food as those that used it were 'able to control themselves'.
SchrodingersImmigrant · 20/03/2021 15:03

Put fat ball in a garden and watch. You just described birds here😂
Fat bastards (my mum pointed out that I have fairly chubby starlings here, which I must agree with....) who enjoy the food and (oh my god the actually fight) can't control themselves.

Eat like a bird - uncontrollably overeat while physically fighting people who try to come near to any food in your vicinity and try to eat some.
Now, that's accurate😂

Trampagne · 20/03/2021 20:17

"Fat" is the word that's needed here.

(I'm the opposite, and would not curl up and die if clothes were marketed at "super-slim people with no tits" - in fact, I'd find it jolly helpful).

Blueberries0112 · 20/03/2021 20:32

Maybe they should label “fat” on these outside Levi Jeans to help people lose weight since everyone think the label is working.

AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?
StCharlotte · 21/03/2021 09:06

@Trampagne

"Fat" is the word that's needed here.

(I'm the opposite, and would not curl up and die if clothes were marketed at "super-slim people with no tits" - in fact, I'd find it jolly helpful).

Except "super-slim" doesn't sound like an insult does it?

How about "scrawny"?

Quite.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 21/03/2021 09:08

Big tiddy krakeness.

I really, REALLY, want that nowwwww

Kindperson · 21/03/2021 09:10

I remember the first time I had to shop for trousers at Evans because I couldn't fot into high street. It made me feel really shit. But since I had bariatric surgery and lost 30kg, I now wonder why nobody pointed out I was 40, not very mobile, depressed, hypertensive, pre diabetic and bloody miserable. I don't think we should pretend it's healthy and a choice of body shape because it's not.

thecatandthevicar · 21/03/2021 09:57

60kg for 170cm is absolutely ideal weight.

I am still laughing at that gem.

No wonder we are a fat country

KatherineJaneway · 21/03/2021 10:45

No wonder we are a fat country

I was tempted but I won't go there Grin

Arrowheart · 21/03/2021 10:50

Normal is the stupidest word ever.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 21/03/2021 11:14

@thecatandthevicar

60kg for 170cm is absolutely ideal weight.

I am still laughing at that gem.

No wonder we are a fat country

Well except that I am not from this country.

You are just goading now tho. That's clear

JohannaC · 21/03/2021 23:18

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