AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

[MishaHarrow]

AIBU to cringe at the term plus size?

Surely large/larger or big/bigger sounds better?

@thecatandthevicar

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No, you can't turn it around, accuse anyone with a slim body to have "an eating disorder" then get offended when you get called about it!

I actually agree with this comment it cannot be done other way around and be acceptable, however u r wrong that healthy weight equals no eating disorder, my friend has recently confessed to also having binge eating disorder, she is around size 10 , she restricts and binges to get to that weight she has completely distorted view of food. Im overweight size 20/22 and i have same cycle of restricting and binging i just spend longer in binging cycle. Being a certain weight doesnt equals health. Its just what society has decided is good. Yes i understand being overweight has some health considerations but also staying in tje cycle of dieting has health considerations too. And i dont image someone with other eating disorders get quite so much stick, obviously not everyone who is overweight has an eating disorder but i could image most who r overweight struggle with food else they wouldn't be overweight.

I disagree that normal means "what is desirable". It means what is typical and standard, same as "the norm".

so the standard of UK women (and men) is to be fat/overweight. That's a cheerful thought. ...

It is if the majority of adults are overweight, certainly.

I can remember in the 60's Evans shops on the high street were called Evans Outsize and were for ladies whose hips measured over 44 inches, which in those days was larger than average.

There are some terms in the link that are probably considered offensive today.
www.insyze.com/blog/the-history-of-plus-size-fashion/

Pic of Evans Outsize on the High St. in Sheffield. www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?action=printdetails&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s35865

Vanity sizing and political correctness were bad enough before, but you can imagine the effect of the lockdown...

even many teachers have testified that SOME children really lost stamina and fitness during the lockdown, and it's obvious many adults have ballooned!

@GreenWillow
We need to see overweight as being abnormal, I’m honestly staggered at how a whole nation seems quite happy to be deprived of their liberty in order to protect the NHS, yet going on a diet (which would undoubtedly be of huge benefit the NHS) is somehow ‘insulting’
I couldn't agree more. The whole situation has been the wake up call I needed to lose weight. We can be a polite as we like to avoid hurt feeling but being overweight (including me) or obesity shouldn't be seen as a positive lifestyle choice.

Evans used to be one of the few places on the high street that you could get anything larger than a 14 (and I mean a vintage 14 with a 28 inch waist!). The market is completely different now with all the supermarkets offering sizes in the 20s and most well-known brands going up to at least an 18.

We need to see overweight as being abnormal,

we really should.

No one is trying to deny that sweet and fizz are doing any good to the kids teeth. Why do we try to brush the excess weights issues under the carpet?

It's not about "fat-shaming" or insulting people.

It's being factual about it.

Overweight is abnormal - problem is overweight people look around and see others who are fatter than them and feel okay about it.

I work in healthcare, so regularly try to address weight with people when it is contributing to their problem ( back pain, knee pain, sweat rashes, borderline diabetes etc etc) - it is almost impossible to do this without causing offence, leading to dealing with unnecessary time-consuming complaints, especially with regard to an overweight child

@PussGirl

Overweight is abnormal - problem is overweight people look around and see others who are fatter than them and feel okay about it.

I work in healthcare, so regularly try to address weight with people when it is contributing to their problem ( back pain, knee pain, sweat rashes, borderline diabetes etc etc) - it is almost impossible to do this without causing offence, leading to dealing with unnecessary time-consuming complaints, especially with regard to an overweight child

People complain when you point out the bleeding obvious? That's where this "big is beautiful" nonsense has got us. People being offended when it's pointed out the health risks remain whether you love your shape or not.

@GreyhoundG1rl I remember this featuring in some weight related threads. I waa pretty gobsmacked at that tbh.
"Fat shaminflg" made an appearance. It was a while though now, so maybe it's not that common hopefully?

@Duggeehugs82

Im intrested in al the people ponting out that being overweight puts pressure on the nhs , do u feel the same way of people who have Anorexia or bulimia? Are they putting pressure on the nhs?

If 64% of the population were anorexic or bulimic then yes they would be.

However, not all overweight people have mental health issues which can't be said for the above.

[quote SchrodingersImmigrant]@GreyhoundG1rl I remember this featuring in some weight related threads. I waa pretty gobsmacked at that tbh.
"Fat shaminflg" made an appearance. It was a while though now, so maybe it's not that common hopefully?[/quote]
God, I've no time for this "shaming" bollocks, no matter what it's aimed at. You can only be shamed if you're doing something shameful.
Pointing out health risks is not shaming.

I can remember in the 60's Evans shops on the high street were called Evans Outsize and were for ladies whose hips measured over 44 inches

I remember finding 2 suitcases of my DGM's vintage 60s clothes, and being devastated that I couldn't even fit into her 1960s size L, when I was a size 10 in the 1990s.
Body shapes have changed so, so much.

@HeadLikeAFuckinOrange

I can remember in the 60's Evans shops on the high street were called Evans Outsize and were for ladies whose hips measured over 44 inches

I remember finding 2 suitcases of my DGM's vintage 60s clothes, and being devastated that I couldn't even fit into her 1960s size L, when I was a size 10 in the 1990s.
Body shapes have changed so, so much.

Yes, that trope of Marilyn Monroe being a size 16, for example. It was probably a size 6 in old money.

We are not being brainwashed either about accepting an anorexic body as something to be "proud of", as being the body of "a real woman" or other nonsense.
No one is denying that anorexia is a problem.

What is outrageous is that someone who is naturally slim, no anorexia/bulimia or any issue whatsoever is fair game for abuse! And having to put a disclaimer about being thin "but no anorexia..." is insulting in itself.

You ARE unhealthy if you are overweight.
Not being overweight is not a proof of health, but a slim body is not a sign of unhealth in itself, far from it.

GreyhoundG1rl yes they complain.

Even the young obese ones who are trying to conceive and putting themselves and their baby at hugely increased risk once they get pregnant.

There are now hospital "metabolic" clinics devoted to the antenatal care of obese pregnant women as part of the antenatal service

Wow...

Marilyn Monroe could barely find clothes today, she was more a size 0 than a "plus"

I wouldn't be surprised if this thread disappear soon. You cannot discuss weight problems without being accused to be offensive and fat shaming.

Marilyn Monroe could barely find clothes today, she was more a size 0 than a "plus"

Yes, people forget that MM was a USA Size 16. Which converts to a UK Size 12. And that was 60yrs ago, pre-vanity sizing.
Marilyn Monroe had a 22″ waist and weighed 118lb. Going shopping now, she'd struggle.

Look, I’m not wishing to get into an argument with you, but is this genuinely how you feel about this issue?

Losing weight is a bit hard, so it’s ok for you to put huge pressure on public services (so everyone else has to subsidise you)?

Surely you can see that this isn’t ok? You just need to accept that fixing the problem you’ve caused yourself is going to be difficult, and just crack on with it.

It’s not easy, of course not but nothing worth having ever is.

@GreenWillow

Surely you can see that the reasons some people are overweight are complex? You are taking an incredibly simplistic view of a complex subject.

People can be overweight from depression, medication, comfort eating (for many reasons), not being able to exercise etc. We have a multi-billion pound diet industry, if it was as simple as 'just eat less' no one would be overweight.

No one is 'subsidising' me. I pay my taxes and have for decades.

@MishaHarrow

YABU.

'Plus size' sounds better than 'big' or 'bigger' or even worse 'BIGGEST!'

However, what makes me cringe is the people who consider someone a 'plus size' when they're a size 14!