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Reporting my sister to social services

173 replies

wednesdaygirl90 · 14/03/2021 20:47

My sister has two kids aged 7 and 3. She has been an excellent mother and I'm really proud of her. She has been in an abusive relationship in the past and has been through a lot. There is obviously a lot that she needs support with and, as a family, we have tried, but she gets very defensive and obviously we are not professionals, so there is only so much we can do.

Recently, she has started seeing someone new. I knew him briefly years ago, so I know a bit about his family history and there is some pretty heavy stuff. I haven't seen my family throughout the pandemic, so I haven't witnessed anything myself, but other members of my family have and what they have told me has made me feel very, very uncomfortable.

Her new boyfriend has threatened to hurt the 7 year old and has actually smacked him (hard enough to leave his hand red) and laughed when he cried. The 7 year old has expressed to others in the family that he wants the boyfriend to leave, but when my sister asks him, he says the opposite to her and she doesn't believe that he has told others that he wants him to leave. My sister has had other boyfriends and the 7 year old hasn't had anything like that about any of them. He has also had a series of bruises appear on his arms.

This man spends almost every day and night at my sister's house, and it is almost impossible for other members of the family to talk to her without him around. My mum says he's incredibly manipulative, my other sister says he refers to sister #1 as a "filthy wh*re". There are so many other examples of why I think he is a danger to my sister and her children, but these are just the standout ones right now.

It is my gut instinct that he is very, very bad news. My family have already been through a lot due to my sister's previous abusive relationship. It was very traumatic for everyone involved and the 7 year old has particularly suffered a lot. My sister obviously needs a lot of help and I think I need to report her to social services. My family are very concerned about her children being removed and taken into foster care, but I think we've done all that we can as a family and the kids are my priority. The thought of not doing anything and then them being harmed is my absolute worst nightmare. Am I being unreasonable? I don't think I am. I don't think that we, as a family, are equipped to deal with this and I know if it were me in the children's place, I would want the adults in my life to do whatever they could to make me safe. I have told my mum and other sister that if I hear of one more incident or one more piece of information that makes me feel uneasy, I am making the call.

Any advice or guidance would be much, much appreciated.

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 14/03/2021 20:51

I would make the call now rather than wait for any further incidents.

Those poor children.

Merryoldgoat · 14/03/2021 20:52

Have you spoken to your sister? Does she know this man has assaulted her child?

WobblyLondoner · 14/03/2021 20:53

You sound like a really lovely sister and a fantastic aunt and I do not think you are being at all unreasonable thinking along those lines. Do you think she is ok and is there any way you could talk to her one to one, without the boyfriend being there? What do you think she would say if you told her of your concerns?

ghostyslovesheets · 14/03/2021 20:53

Yes - please do - now - they are at risk of harm - one more incident might be fatal

I know you love your sister but the kids need someone to stand up for them

ghostyslovesheets · 14/03/2021 20:56

and yes they can be housed by family - the family might need to undergo assessment and there will be rules around contact etc but generally if children are removed family are preferred to foster care (it cost less for starters! but also it's far better for the kids.)

I've known family/friends in far from ideal situations be approved to 'foster' a relative

FrostyChocolateMilkshake · 14/03/2021 20:56

OP you sound wonderful and caring. Thank you for looking out for those children.

Don't hesitate in calling SS if you have concerns. Good luck x

Ozziewoz · 14/03/2021 20:58

You musnt worry about your sisters children being removed. Social services don't just knock on the door and collect children. They try ang get involved and support the family unit. They will poss talk to kids school and the child within school. Your sister will then have to decide, based on your opinon being true, whether she wants to put her children before her bf.

AnneLovesGilbert · 14/03/2021 20:58

Please call them tomorrow.

Mollymopple · 14/03/2021 20:59

Please protect your nephew and niece- they cannot speak for themselves ...

I would not hesitate in your situation. Appreciate it is difficult and you risk a back lash, but it is the right decision

WombatStewForTea · 14/03/2021 21:00

You are right. You need to report. But now. Don't wait.

Opal93 · 14/03/2021 21:01

Please make the call. My mum brought an abusive man into our home and while he was never the one who was physically abusive he was absolutely vile to me and my brother. Family knew what was going on and raised eyebrows, talked bitterly behind my mums back at what she was putting her kids through and yet never actually done anything. I still resent them for it to this day and damage is still done years later and I am in therapy. If he smacked this poor child once he will do it again. Children like this have no voice and need someone to speak up for them. I know it’s a really hard thing to do but it is the right thing

73kittycat73 · 14/03/2021 21:03

I know if it were me in the children's place, I would want the adults in my life to do whatever they could to make me safe.

I wish you were around when I was little OP. Do it, they'll thank you for it one day. Flowers

wednesdaygirl90 · 14/03/2021 21:04

To answer some questions:

Yes, I've spoken to my sister. She knows what happened with the smacking. Her version of events and other witnesses' versions of events are very different. I believe the other witnesses.

I have tried talking to her, but she is very defensive and it's hard to talk to her without her hitting the "block" button. I live on the other side of the country, so I can only talk to her over the phone or via WhatsApp. I never know if he is sat next to her or not. I suspect he is with her most of the time.

OP posts:
SpiderinaWingMirror · 14/03/2021 21:06

Your sister seems incapable of putting herchildrens welfare first.
Please call SS.

VinterKvinna · 14/03/2021 21:06

@WobblyLondoner

You sound like a really lovely sister and a fantastic aunt and I do not think you are being at all unreasonable thinking along those lines. Do you think she is ok and is there any way you could talk to her one to one, without the boyfriend being there? What do you think she would say if you told her of your concerns?
Her new boyfriend has threatened to hurt the 7 year old and has actually smacked him (hard enough to leave his hand red) and laughed when he cried. The 7 year old has expressed to others in the family that he wants the boyfriend to leave, but when my sister asks him, he says the opposite to her and she doesn't believe that he has told others that he wants him to leave. My sister has had other boyfriends and the 7 year old hasn't had anything like that about any of them. He has also had a series of bruises appear on his arms.

Respectfully, I disagree that the op is a fantastic aunt. A fantastic aunt would not leave a 7year old child in that ssituation.or a 3 year old.

I dont want to bash you, but you have to do something

eatsleepread · 14/03/2021 21:06

Your sister is far from being an excellent mother. I wouldn't put any man before my kids, let alone one like this. Those poor children. They are lucky to have you though, OP. You absolutely must do what is right by the children.

nocoolnamesleft · 14/03/2021 21:08

Please report. These children need to be protected by someone. And, at present, their mother is not protecting them.

wednesdaygirl90 · 14/03/2021 21:09

@eatsleepread Until this moment in time, she has been an excellent mother. But she has experienced incredible trauma in the past and has been let down by mental health services. It's a devastating situation, but this is not her under normal circumstances - this is her after suffering multiple traumas and not receiving any support for it. It doesn't make the situation or her current behaviour okay, but she is a victim too.

OP posts:
Shehasadiamondinthesky · 14/03/2021 21:09

Report it now. I wish someone had helped me as a child before I went on to suffer a lifetime of mental illness but nobody did.

Callingallskeletons · 14/03/2021 21:09

Definitely make the call!

You can also call your nephews school and raise your concerns OP they have a duty of care to him and they may have already noticed things of concern and that extra piece of the puzzle you provide may make it all click in to place

Givemeabreak88 · 14/03/2021 21:09

Report her but be honest with her and let her know it was you. It’s horrible being reported and having no idea who did it.

shouldistop · 14/03/2021 21:11

You need to call, don't wait for another incident. The next incident could permanently injure or kill.

wednesdaygirl90 · 14/03/2021 21:11

@VinterKvinna this is information I was made aware of only this evening.

OP posts:
CruellaDaVille · 14/03/2021 21:12

These poor little darlings need protecting from this bullying arsehole.
What kind of bloke laughs when he has hurt a 7 year old.
Your sister won't do anything as she has already sided with him which has effectively given him a green light to hurt those kids.
This is a very dangerous situation for them kiddies to be in .
Please do something ASAP

Lollyneenah · 14/03/2021 21:15

Why wait for him to be hurt again? If it's being noticed then the man may well hurt your nephew in places harder to see like her back or abdomen.
Make the call tomorrow morning