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Reporting my sister to social services

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wednesdaygirl90 · 14/03/2021 20:47

My sister has two kids aged 7 and 3. She has been an excellent mother and I'm really proud of her. She has been in an abusive relationship in the past and has been through a lot. There is obviously a lot that she needs support with and, as a family, we have tried, but she gets very defensive and obviously we are not professionals, so there is only so much we can do.

Recently, she has started seeing someone new. I knew him briefly years ago, so I know a bit about his family history and there is some pretty heavy stuff. I haven't seen my family throughout the pandemic, so I haven't witnessed anything myself, but other members of my family have and what they have told me has made me feel very, very uncomfortable.

Her new boyfriend has threatened to hurt the 7 year old and has actually smacked him (hard enough to leave his hand red) and laughed when he cried. The 7 year old has expressed to others in the family that he wants the boyfriend to leave, but when my sister asks him, he says the opposite to her and she doesn't believe that he has told others that he wants him to leave. My sister has had other boyfriends and the 7 year old hasn't had anything like that about any of them. He has also had a series of bruises appear on his arms.

This man spends almost every day and night at my sister's house, and it is almost impossible for other members of the family to talk to her without him around. My mum says he's incredibly manipulative, my other sister says he refers to sister #1 as a "filthy wh*re". There are so many other examples of why I think he is a danger to my sister and her children, but these are just the standout ones right now.

It is my gut instinct that he is very, very bad news. My family have already been through a lot due to my sister's previous abusive relationship. It was very traumatic for everyone involved and the 7 year old has particularly suffered a lot. My sister obviously needs a lot of help and I think I need to report her to social services. My family are very concerned about her children being removed and taken into foster care, but I think we've done all that we can as a family and the kids are my priority. The thought of not doing anything and then them being harmed is my absolute worst nightmare. Am I being unreasonable? I don't think I am. I don't think that we, as a family, are equipped to deal with this and I know if it were me in the children's place, I would want the adults in my life to do whatever they could to make me safe. I have told my mum and other sister that if I hear of one more incident or one more piece of information that makes me feel uneasy, I am making the call.

Any advice or guidance would be much, much appreciated.

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 14/03/2021 21:17

She may be a victim but her children have no way out without the intervention of other people.

She might hate you. It might give her the push she needs. Whatever. It’s irrelevant. What is needed it for those children to be removed ASAP.

TeeBee · 14/03/2021 21:18

Jesus Christ, that poor child. You're doing the right thing OP, don't doubt yourself. Your sister is not capable of putting her children first. Ive been that child. Please make the call. That child will thank you for it.

justanotherneighinparadise · 14/03/2021 21:18

Having recently watched a documentary on the care system in the UK the only unreasonable aspect of your post is the assumption that they would go into foster care. If you are potentially going to cause then to be removed from their mother, isn’t there anyone in the family that could take them?

inkstainjetplanes · 14/03/2021 21:21

Eh yeah, phone social services

VinterKvinna · 14/03/2021 21:22

[quote wednesdaygirl90]@VinterKvinna this is information I was made aware of only this evening.[/quote]
That makes a difference, thank you for clarification.

Do you know which number to call tomorrow?

IdblowJonSnow · 14/03/2021 21:22

Report them and don't wait op.
She may be a victim but as an adult she has a choice. The kids don't.

2020iscancelled · 14/03/2021 21:23

Ring them.

We all need to speak up more for people who can’t speak up for themselves.

Id be ringing them and I’d be paying her a visit tomorrow

Tempusfudgeit · 14/03/2021 21:24

Four years ago I reported my sister to SS for neglect, best thing I ever did. It was anonymous and to this day she still doesn't know it was me. She and her child are in a better place now, they received lots of support. Make the call.

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 14/03/2021 21:24

A horrible situation for you to be in OP.

Please report. You may lose your relationship with your sister but her children literally have no agency to get out of harm's way themselves.

NorthernBirdAtHeart · 14/03/2021 21:26

YANBU in the slightest. Please call them first thing and help those children (and your sister). I really feel for you, awful position to be in.

wednesdaygirl90 · 14/03/2021 21:27

@justanotherneighinparadise I don't believe they will be taken into foster care. This is a concern of other members of my family. I think I have a better understanding of children's services than they do and I've tried to explain that they work with the family instead of against them. However, I think that part of it is that my mother had involvement with them when I was young (when she rightly reported a potential danger) and they let us down quite badly and told her it was her responsibility to keep her children safe, so she is very wary of them. The family were also let down by the police when my sister was in her previous abusive relationship. The services in the area they live in are criminally underfunded and it is a sh*t show, which is the main reason I didn't immediately make the call. If it were in the area I live in, I would absolutely not hesitate at all. I know people who work within children's services and I have a lot more confidence in the services in this area, but it is a different story where I grew up and where my family still live.

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VVKills27 · 14/03/2021 21:28

Hi OP. Yes please inform social services. Your gut instincts are there for good reason. I have been a social worker for 17 years, I can assure you this is the right action. I don’t rush to scare you but it is more common place than widely discussed that new partners can be the cause of highly abusive situations in families. I mean no disrespect to new partners who join pre-existing families - of course most will be fine and go on to love and raise children as there own. Some will not. Do ensure you are clear in your referral that you see your sister as a victim in this situation - this will give her the opportunity to be supported and helped out of the situation. I don’t want to scare you but you have raised some red flags and you cannot afford to take chances in situations like this, it needs to be investigated. I wish you well with everything.

ArtfulScreamer · 14/03/2021 21:30

Make the call to SS and also if you're UK based do a Clares law application to the police in her area, he sounds an arsehole and I bet he has history.

Thierryhenryneedisaymore · 14/03/2021 21:31

You need to report this and no more pondering. Your sister is in denial, she's putting this bully first, and this situation will not get better for the kids, it will only get worse. Her experiences here are irrelevant. If you don't speak up for these children, it's a tragedy waiting to happen.

Yolande7 · 14/03/2021 21:31

Please report your sister to ss. If your nephew had bruises, he is being abused. Suffering childhood trauma has lifelong consequences. If this man is violent, your sister also is at risk.

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Beautiful3 · 14/03/2021 21:31

Please make that call, think about the children, help make them safe. If its innocent then they have nothing to hide.

Slurtdragon · 14/03/2021 21:31

OP I had to do this when 20, on my own sister. She was the problem though. I am forever grateful to myself that I did what needed to be done for the children. And the eldest who is now a teen is more appreciative than I could ever know. Protect them, please, there’s hope for the 7 year old still. Please make the call against all odds x

VVKills27 · 14/03/2021 21:33

Ps, i’m not sure if you’re aware but legislation around child protection means that the there is a duty to consider the suitability of relatives who come forward to care for children if they cannot be cared for by the parents. The suitability of this in terms of risk and ability to protect given the relationship to the parent will be weighed up. It is called a kinship placement. It may be something you and the rest of your family want to keep in mind depending on what the future holds. Again, I really do wish and your family well for the future.

LIZS · 14/03/2021 21:35

You could call her child's school, ask to speak to the Safeguarding lead. It sounds as if the bf is a risk, possibly already known to police, and sees her as vulnerable.

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 14/03/2021 21:36

I wouldn’t hold your breath that anything will happen if you do report her to social services. Unless she’s been working with social services before and they nearly got taken away then.

I would report to Nspcc who will assess and pass to social services if they feel the children are in danger.

I would also contact the school and also the police to see if you can get his history.

I would also talk to your sister and give it to her straight.

User82517 · 14/03/2021 21:37

Do it NOW. Please.
I will never ever forgive my stepchildren's grandparents and aunts for knowing they were living in squalor with drug dealers coming round smashing the house up whenever they felt like it.
They can play the loving family now they don't to have to deal with any of this but doesnt wash with me, they failed those children by turning a blind eye and its damaged the relationship for ever. Rightly so in my opinion.

Flaxmeadow · 14/03/2021 21:37

Until this moment in time, she has been an excellent mother. But she has experienced incredible trauma in the past and has been let down by mental health services. It's a devastating situation, but this is not her under normal circumstances - this is her after suffering multiple traumas and not receiving any support for it. It doesn't make the situation or her current behaviour okay, but she is a victim too

It's sad that your sister is a victim and has mental health problems, but a childs welfare must always be paramount. Please report the childrens situation to the authorities as soon as possible

VVKills27 · 14/03/2021 21:37

Another ps from me OP. I do appreciate your hesitance and delusion with your local social services - I entirely sympathise with that and the fact they are underfunded etc. Sadly I see no other option here.

vixeyann · 14/03/2021 21:37

@SpiderinaWingMirror

Your sister seems incapable of putting herchildrens welfare first. Please call SS.
Completely this. Poor kids.
Easterbunnygettingready · 14/03/2021 21:38

Have you tried Googling his name op?
Report tonight. Ring school tomorrow...