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Reporting my sister to social services

173 replies

wednesdaygirl90 · 14/03/2021 20:47

My sister has two kids aged 7 and 3. She has been an excellent mother and I'm really proud of her. She has been in an abusive relationship in the past and has been through a lot. There is obviously a lot that she needs support with and, as a family, we have tried, but she gets very defensive and obviously we are not professionals, so there is only so much we can do.

Recently, she has started seeing someone new. I knew him briefly years ago, so I know a bit about his family history and there is some pretty heavy stuff. I haven't seen my family throughout the pandemic, so I haven't witnessed anything myself, but other members of my family have and what they have told me has made me feel very, very uncomfortable.

Her new boyfriend has threatened to hurt the 7 year old and has actually smacked him (hard enough to leave his hand red) and laughed when he cried. The 7 year old has expressed to others in the family that he wants the boyfriend to leave, but when my sister asks him, he says the opposite to her and she doesn't believe that he has told others that he wants him to leave. My sister has had other boyfriends and the 7 year old hasn't had anything like that about any of them. He has also had a series of bruises appear on his arms.

This man spends almost every day and night at my sister's house, and it is almost impossible for other members of the family to talk to her without him around. My mum says he's incredibly manipulative, my other sister says he refers to sister #1 as a "filthy wh*re". There are so many other examples of why I think he is a danger to my sister and her children, but these are just the standout ones right now.

It is my gut instinct that he is very, very bad news. My family have already been through a lot due to my sister's previous abusive relationship. It was very traumatic for everyone involved and the 7 year old has particularly suffered a lot. My sister obviously needs a lot of help and I think I need to report her to social services. My family are very concerned about her children being removed and taken into foster care, but I think we've done all that we can as a family and the kids are my priority. The thought of not doing anything and then them being harmed is my absolute worst nightmare. Am I being unreasonable? I don't think I am. I don't think that we, as a family, are equipped to deal with this and I know if it were me in the children's place, I would want the adults in my life to do whatever they could to make me safe. I have told my mum and other sister that if I hear of one more incident or one more piece of information that makes me feel uneasy, I am making the call.

Any advice or guidance would be much, much appreciated.

OP posts:
EmmaGrundyForPM · 14/03/2021 21:40

please contact social care. Your nephews are in danger

partyatthepalace · 14/03/2021 21:43

Yes you have to report, and make sure it gets followed up asap

StilettosAndBrokenBottles · 14/03/2021 21:48

I can't bear to think of that poor little boy being scared and frightened all the time. Please call them OP and please call the school.

dupemethrice · 14/03/2021 21:48

Please, report him now. The next time may be too late.

Damnrightwrong · 14/03/2021 21:49

Report him first thing tomorrow without hesitation. Please.

The children will only be taken into foster care if she fails to end the relationship and puts their best interests first.

She clearly needs to do the freedom program, or do it again if she's done it in the past.

Poor child Sad

twoshineyshoesahhaeyetoeye · 14/03/2021 21:52

@Opal93

Please make the call. My mum brought an abusive man into our home and while he was never the one who was physically abusive he was absolutely vile to me and my brother. Family knew what was going on and raised eyebrows, talked bitterly behind my mums back at what she was putting her kids through and yet never actually done anything. I still resent them for it to this day and damage is still done years later and I am in therapy. If he smacked this poor child once he will do it again. Children like this have no voice and need someone to speak up for them. I know it’s a really hard thing to do but it is the right thing
Yes, yes yes, well said
twoshineyshoesahhaeyetoeye · 14/03/2021 21:55

Also sorry Opal93 you went through this ..no words for your pain..big hugs xx

georgarina · 14/03/2021 21:58

Make the call...I went through years of abuse starting at the same age and the damage never goes away once it's been done, especially if it's while you're a child.

Maybe if anything it will wake your sister up enough to leave him.

Raver84 · 14/03/2021 21:58

Yes report it to social services and if you are worried the children are in immediate danger ring the police.
Google your local authorities out of hours social service department if you want to report it tonight. If not report in the morning.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 14/03/2021 22:00

I was abused as a child. My aunts knew what was going on but did nothing to get me out of that situation. I resent them to this day. Please, please report this for those kids sakes.

yesiamgoingtoeatthat · 14/03/2021 22:01

This is a horrible situation and you are absolutely right to call SS. You could also try the NSPCC helpline for advice and what to look out for; they open at 8am tomorrow:
www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/our-services/nspcc-helpline/

An application to the police under Clare's Law will turn up any previous violence convictions against the boyfriend's name, but the police might only tell your sister. I'm not completely sure how it works but I think they contact the person directly affected.

Very best of luck to you all x

Lorieandrews · 14/03/2021 22:01

Please call

I was the one who was psychically abused. For many years. As was my mother. Who is my hero.

However we once were able to escape. Dead of night. We found a phone box and called every member of family. No one would help us. I remember that drive back. Worst night of my life. The absolute dread of having to go back and know exactly what would happen. We barely made it those next few days out alive

I’ve never forgiven my family for that. I would move heaven on earth to protect my family.

So please call. Your sister might actually need a way out too. You don’t know. You only tend to ask for help when your safely able too (if he’s with her all the time she might not be able to do so). You also tend to really risk leaving if you know that you won’t be killed or incredibly hurt doing so and that takes a real bravery. Remember these types of men grind you down over the years.

So yes. Call them. You might just save a whole family

DavidsSchitt · 14/03/2021 22:03

My 7 year old is tucked up in bed, happy, safe, loved and nobody has ever assaulted him. He knows that if anyone ever hurts him he can turn to me and I will protect him no matter what.

Your nephew doesn't have that. It is so bad for him that he has asked, at 7 years of age, your family to help him. So fucking help him.

twoshineyshoesahhaeyetoeye · 14/03/2021 22:08

@Lorieandrews

Please call

I was the one who was psychically abused. For many years. As was my mother. Who is my hero.

However we once were able to escape. Dead of night. We found a phone box and called every member of family. No one would help us. I remember that drive back. Worst night of my life. The absolute dread of having to go back and know exactly what would happen. We barely made it those next few days out alive

I’ve never forgiven my family for that. I would move heaven on earth to protect my family.

So please call. Your sister might actually need a way out too. You don’t know. You only tend to ask for help when your safely able too (if he’s with her all the time she might not be able to do so). You also tend to really risk leaving if you know that you won’t be killed or incredibly hurt doing so and that takes a real bravery. Remember these types of men grind you down over the years.

So yes. Call them. You might just save a whole family

That is heart breaking to read, I hope you are in a better place now.. been through similar so understand your upset with your family. I actually think mine thought I was just making a mountain out of a molehill.. never been mentioned again. very sad for any one going through this
Incogweeto · 14/03/2021 22:09

Yes, OP, you need to report it urgently. Don't expect to see much done but better to start the gigantic process of them doing nothing early so that the 'finally doing something' comes sooner rather than later - or too late.

I realise it's hard to see family objectively but your sister is not a wonderful mother. The abusive relationship was terrible, but you say she's had a string of boyfriends since then and now her new boyfriend has assaulted her child, with basically her permission, and is there day and night? What on earth is she teaching her seven year old? She's horribly selfish.

FlamingoQueen · 14/03/2021 22:09

Ring their school in the morning and ask to speak to the Safeguarding Lead. They most probably have an idea of the bigger picture and they will know who to contact. Ring first thing so they have the day to sort it out. Please help the children. You could be the one that saves their lives.

raincamepouringdown · 14/03/2021 22:18

Please report it. Immediately. And ask for the witnesses to agree to be contacted as well.

RosesAndHellebores · 14/03/2021 22:20

Yes do call. Hopefully as a blood relative you may be prepared to take your sisters children in. If not you will be there for your sister and utterly support her.

hellywelly3 · 14/03/2021 22:26

Make the call. Those children’s lives must be hell. You need to be their voice

Pinkchocolate · 14/03/2021 22:26

As above, pls report this ASAP. I am a teacher and at the start of my career a colleague and I noticed a bruise on an unusual place on a child, my colleague was adamant it didn’t need reporting but I insisted it did so I reported it; you can guess the outcome, the child was being subjected to abuse by a parent.
Although your information isn’t all first hand and there are some “her word” against “others” your small piece of this will make a difference. Also consider how you will feel when eventually this truth comes out, and it definitely will.

Devlesko · 14/03/2021 22:27

If you don't report someone else will.
She may be a victim herself and I sympathise, but she is incapable of keeping her children safe and isn't putting them first, perhaps they can be fostered in the hope she sorts herself out. The children's interests come first, over your sister.

Josette77 · 14/03/2021 22:34

She has a 7-year-old who has trauma from a previously abusive relationship. She saw this new guy hit her son. You say he hasn't complained about previous boyfriends. How many men have been in and out of this child's life? Your sister is not a great mom. You can experience trauma and be a victim and still be a shitty parent. I speak as someone whose bio mom lost all three of us children.

Member869894 · 14/03/2021 22:35

Hi. You must report this. Children's services will make enquires with the school and check
his police records. If they have concerns about him then they will most likely sypport your sister and encourage her to ask him to leave pending further assessment/ enquiries. If she refuses then she won't be prioritising her childrens' needs over her own in which case children's services would look at family members who would take the children and then seek a court order to place the children there again pending further assessment.

Your sister doesnt sound like she has a real awareness of domestic abuse . Try not to alienate her which will play right into his hands to encourage her to contact local domestic abuse support services or failing that maybe get her to read the Freedom program online. Try to be there for her and build her self esteem . If you can talk to her freely agree a code word or phrase that she an use when she speaks to you so that you know she needs help

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 14/03/2021 23:04

@DavidsSchitt

My 7 year old is tucked up in bed, happy, safe, loved and nobody has ever assaulted him. He knows that if anyone ever hurts him he can turn to me and I will protect him no matter what.

Your nephew doesn't have that. It is so bad for him that he has asked, at 7 years of age, your family to help him. So fucking help him.

This.

Can you call the police and ask them to do a welfare check or is social services a better option?

ineedaholidaynow · 14/03/2021 23:06

Were social services involved with her previous relationship?