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My new neighbour is a convicted murderer

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murdernextdoor · 14/03/2021 19:56

Have recently found out from another neighbour further up the street that my new next door neighbour has spent 4 years in prison for man slaughter of another man. I was sceptical so I googled his name. I saw all the newspaper articles about him. He had a fight and killed another man.
Don't know the reasons for the fight but I can't help but wonder if it was one of those cases of a one punch kill. Or maybe he stamped his head?

I am horrified that this man lives next to me. I now don't want my children to mix with his children anymore. I know some will say he's done his time, but imagine if it was your son he killed? It makes me sick to my stomach.

Should someone have notified us in some way about him moving there? Or maybe not as he's done his time and isn't a sex offender.

AIBU or would you be horrified as well? AIBU to tell my children to stay away from the house altogether. (I know it's covid now but I'm thinking in the future)

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Nocaloriesinchocolate · 23/03/2021 08:42

If I were looking at my mobile phone while driving, didn’t notice a pedestrian and ran over them, I’d probably be found guilty if manslaughter. Such behaviour would be stupid, selfish, immoral etc but wouldn’t mean I was generally homicidal. Just don’t argue about parking, noise, bins etc!

Namechange1991x · 23/03/2021 08:51

@Nocaloriesinchocolate stop justifying the fact someone has Killed someone else. Would you be so blasé if that was your family member run over and killed?

Namechange1991x · 23/03/2021 08:53

@luciestar I can't believe someone wrote that?!
There are some worrying people on here.

tenlittlecygnets · 23/03/2021 09:03

@murderHe's obviously got no regard for human life that's for sure. You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far.

But if you know someone who was seriously injured by one punch, then your words above make no sense. It is possible to kill someone with one punch

Nocaloriesinchocolate · 23/03/2021 09:04

I’m absolutely not justifying someone killing someone else. What a silly comment to make. Anyway, how do you know I don’t have a family member who has been killed in this way? What I was trying to say was that the mindset of someone so violent that they kill someone in a fight is different from the mindset of the driver in my example.

RootyT00t · 23/03/2021 18:17

@Lacucuracha

Why are posters on this booard so forgiving of male violence and frequently so moralistic over female sexual betrayal?

Seems our society is built this way.

Look at our policemen, some shared pictures of the mutilated bodies two mutilated sisters in London just a few weeks ago and now another officer has shared an offensive meme about poor Sarah Everard.

No wonder women have such low expectations from men if even the police behave this way.

Wbat a load of absolute nonsense.

MN is full of misognystic, dreadful threads about men and idiots trashed Sarah's memorial with signs of ACAb, but that's okay , cause women are never wrong.

If the person was a woman the responses would be so different.

Upamountain43 · 23/03/2021 18:31

As a rule of thumb most murderers murder once - liars lie every day.

contrary to popular media portrayal murders are one of the least likely to ever reoffend.

A friend who lies or steals is far more of a risk to you or your family.

RootyT00t · 23/03/2021 18:33

@Upamountain43

As a rule of thumb most murderers murder once - liars lie every day.

contrary to popular media portrayal murders are one of the least likely to ever reoffend.

A friend who lies or steals is far more of a risk to you or your family.

Not true, in the slightest, at all.
RootyT00t · 23/03/2021 18:34

I can answer that Lucie

Youd be told it's so rare who cares and that she muSt have been provoked.

LucieStar · 23/03/2021 18:53

@RootyT00t

I can answer that Lucie

Youd be told it's so rare who cares and that she muSt have been provoked.

I meant if the victim of the manslaughter had been a woman rather than a man, killed in a one off incident where a man lost his temper in the moment and punched her. Would these comments that appear to be minimising manslaughter, such as "anyone can lose their temper in a moment", still be made?

Or do we only minimise manslaughter when the victim is male, because male victims are expendable?

RoseRedRoseBlue · 23/03/2021 19:45

@Upamountain43 is correct, the recidivism rate for murder is very low.

OhWhyNot · 23/03/2021 19:55

Well it’s quite a relief that those that murder do not go on to often murder again

Those involved in less violent or intentional violent crime often do

OhWhyNot · 23/03/2021 19:58

LucieStar the response would be quite different if the victim was a women

And vast majority of people have no idea that they are coming into contact with someone that has committed a seriously violent crime once they do they are wary, you are on your guard even if you like the person that knowledge is there and you don’t just treat them like you would do if you didn’t know

LucieStar · 23/03/2021 21:06

*the response would be quite different if the victim was a women
*
Oh I already knew that before I asked the question.

Nat6999 · 23/03/2021 22:04

The man who lives next door to me served time on remand for attempted murder but was found not guilty, his friend was found guilty & got a total of 20 years. My neighbour is no angel & even though he got found not guilty I wouldn't be surprised if he had done it. The victim was shot & stabbed, but my neighbour is OK with me & my son, he often helps me with carrying my shopping when I am struggling, kept an eye out for ds when he was younger & will always help me if I need anything practical doing. I treat him the same way as he treats me.

RoseRedRoseBlue · 24/03/2021 00:03

@Nat6999 and that is exactly what this situation needs.

RootyT00t · 24/03/2021 00:32

I meant if the victim of the manslaughter had been a woman rather than a man, killed in a one off incident where a man lost his temper in the moment and punched her. Would these comments that appear to be minimising manslaughter, such as "anyone can lose their temper in a moment", still be made?

Or do we only minimise manslaughter when the victim is male, because male victims are expendable?

Well, I'm on the fence here, because I think OP is being ridiculous.

But I completely agree with you on this.

Could you imagine! You and I have seen enough threads to know.

PawPawNoodle · 24/03/2021 00:50

Some of the.most inspiring and kind people I know are convicted murderers. I'd rather live in a tower block full of them than most other people.

HeadNorth · 24/03/2021 07:45

Some of the.most inspiring and kind people I know are convicted murderers. I'd rather live in a tower block full of them than most other people.

Shame their victims will never get to live anywhere or do anything ever again. But who gives a shiny shit about victims when we can make ourselves feel all good and virtuous by palling up with killers?

Maybe if you or someone you love had been killed you wouldn't be quite blase about the most serious crime a human being can commit. There is no recovery from being killed. You are dead forever. Just try thinking before you post such trite, hurtful nonsense.

OhWhyNot · 24/03/2021 09:28

I took PolPot’s post as being sarcastic ....

MrsWooster · 24/03/2021 09:31

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@marshflamingo I stand with you. In fact I would rather live next door to this man than the OP.[/quote]
This.

HeadNorth · 24/03/2021 10:32

I sincerely hope PolPots post was sarcastic. And Mrs Wooster etc. Otherwise, we have posters saying it is worse to put a post on a forum than to kill someone.

Obviously the vast majority of people will be fortunate not to have experienced the devestating consequences of a killing in the family and the puny amount of support for the victim's relatives compared to the offenders. But a tiny seconds thought and empathy before you post should make you reflect on the seriousness of killing someone.

murdernextdoor · 10/05/2021 18:39

Well, well, well.

This is a wee update for all you... last night the BF beat the shit out his GF and was taken away by police. Yes, this was the same killer almost all of you said you'd be happy to live beside.

The guy is a cunt and my instincts were correct. He gave me bad vibes and now has once again shown his angry side. Hopefully she dumps him now so he won't be living next door.

OP posts:
murdernextdoor · 10/05/2021 18:40

Also, I meant to say, hope she dumps him for her and her kids sake too. Hopefully he gets sent back to jail too.

OP posts:
MishMashMummy · 10/05/2021 19:02

@murdernextdoor

Also, I meant to say, hope she dumps him for her and her kids sake too. Hopefully he gets sent back to jail too.
Nice save OP Hmm it’s not great taste to be gloating over a woman being beaten because it allows you to say ‘I told you so’.

I hadn’t seen this thread when you initially posted and from your first post I had sympathy with you, but this sneer is really low when a woman has been attacked.

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