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My new neighbour is a convicted murderer

418 replies

murdernextdoor · 14/03/2021 19:56

Have recently found out from another neighbour further up the street that my new next door neighbour has spent 4 years in prison for man slaughter of another man. I was sceptical so I googled his name. I saw all the newspaper articles about him. He had a fight and killed another man.
Don't know the reasons for the fight but I can't help but wonder if it was one of those cases of a one punch kill. Or maybe he stamped his head?

I am horrified that this man lives next to me. I now don't want my children to mix with his children anymore. I know some will say he's done his time, but imagine if it was your son he killed? It makes me sick to my stomach.

Should someone have notified us in some way about him moving there? Or maybe not as he's done his time and isn't a sex offender.

AIBU or would you be horrified as well? AIBU to tell my children to stay away from the house altogether. (I know it's covid now but I'm thinking in the future)

OP posts:
TheNeverEndingOver · 10/05/2021 19:08

Your update was in very poor taste. It’s not something to gloat about ‘being right’

iklboo · 10/05/2021 19:08

Here's some polish for your chufty badge.

My new neighbour is a convicted murderer
InescapableDeath · 10/05/2021 19:09

To be fair OP is probably scared he will come back and take his anger out on someone else.

I don’t really believe that most people ever change, so in a way the update doesn’t surprise me sadly. Hopefully he is still on parole and will return to jail and the GF will recover.

HamAndCheeseToastie5032 · 10/05/2021 19:09

@murdernextdoor

Well, well, well.

This is a wee update for all you... last night the BF beat the shit out his GF and was taken away by police. Yes, this was the same killer almost all of you said you'd be happy to live beside.

The guy is a cunt and my instincts were correct. He gave me bad vibes and now has once again shown his angry side. Hopefully she dumps him now so he won't be living next door.

Could you sound more gleeful Hmm

Have a word.

eatsleepread · 10/05/2021 19:12

Please don't take it out on his kids Sad

namechange30455 · 10/05/2021 19:15

You should be ashamed of how smug you are that some poor woman has been beaten up just cos it proves you right.

Thatisnotwhatisaid · 10/05/2021 19:17

He had a fight and someone died. Whilst tragic, it isn’t exactly the same as a crazy axe wielding serial killer. I think your family is safe.

Mangofandangoo · 10/05/2021 19:23

Oooh OP you aren't coming off very well here at all

HopingForOurRainbowBaby · 10/05/2021 19:27

@sunflowersandbuttercups

He's obviously got no regard for human life that's for sure. You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far.

Of course you can. All it takes is for someone to hit the wrong spot, or to land in the wrong place/at the wrong angle and that's it.

One punch was all it took to kill my Friend. He fell and cracked his head on the footpath and never regained consciousness
KingdomScrolls · 10/05/2021 19:38

Thing is OP with the level of domestic abuse in this country there's a perpetrator on every street, regardless of what you think of the neighbours. You could have a new neighbour move in and they could have loads of convictions you don't know about, or they could have no convictions and spend most evenings on the dark web exchanging sexual images of children. In my line of work you realise quickly that violent and sexually violent behaviour is everywhere.

HopingForOurRainbowBaby · 10/05/2021 19:41

@Flowers24

How he feels ? Are you having a laugh, he took.someones life ! Who cares how his feelings are !?
Would you have that same opinion had this person knocked someone down and killed them because they'd stepped out in front of his car?
drpet49 · 10/05/2021 19:42

* You should be ashamed of how smug you are that some poor woman has been beaten up just cos it proves you right.*

@namechange30455 oh do calm down dear. OP isn’t smug a woman has got beaten up.

looptheloopinahulahoop · 10/05/2021 19:51

Don't worry OP, it's not covid, causing manslaughter is not catching.

You don't have to have anything to do with this man. I don't say
more than "hello" and "how are things" to my neighbours from one year to the next.

And don't visit the sins of the father on the kids in the unlikely event that your kids want to play together.

As pp's have said, you don't have to be a convicted killer to be a wife-beater.

xTHISTLEx · 10/05/2021 20:00

You could be talking about my ex aside from it not being outside a pub or you recent update but everything else is pretty bang on.

Being involved in a fight that went wrong doesn't automatically make someone an evil person. It's a huge mistake with a huge price to pay and I'm not just talking about the time spent in jail, it's a lifetime of living with it and it can really fuck someone up.

In fairness this guy sounds like he hasn't done much to turn his life around in a positive way so hopefully he will go back to jail.

Don't judge every book by its cover though, not unless you know the full facts.

Voomster953 · 10/05/2021 20:04

it’s not great taste to be gloating over a woman being beaten because it allows you to say ‘I told you so’.

I came here to say this, basically. Your smug self-satisfaction is revolting.

Febo24 · 10/05/2021 20:08

Is this the first thing you thought of to do? Update some strangers online to say I told you so? OK.

Christmasfairy2020 · 10/05/2021 20:20

I'd let kids play outside or in my garden but not theirs

DrSbaitso · 10/05/2021 20:22

There's nothing in poor taste about the update. It's highly relevant to the thread and the story. And completely unsurprising. Violent man is violent.

People are just annoyed that OP was right to have reservations about having a killer living next door and have lost all the sanctimony points they thought they had, all the "just one punch" shit. So now they're just scrabbling around for some other way to put OP in the wrong, even though she's not the one who killed a man and beat up a woman.

Nowhereelsetogo90 · 10/05/2021 20:27

@Voomster953

it’s not great taste to be gloating over a woman being beaten because it allows you to say ‘I told you so’.

I came here to say this, basically. Your smug self-satisfaction is revolting.

This. I’d obviously rather not live next to someone who had killed someone, but if you were my neighbour I’d be crossing the road to avoid your smug, gossipy, self righteous behaviour. Hmm
DrSbaitso · 10/05/2021 20:33

Yes, it's such idle gossip when a convicted killer beats the shit out of his girlfriend. Totally irrelevant to the people living next door. No reason to have any response at all.

OP was torn to shreds on here for saying she felt uneasy living next door to a convicted killer and effectively accused of being a terrible person. It's not smug or gloating for her to be vindicated because she was right to be worried and all the insults were just so much sanctimonious bull. Even if it were, that wouldn’t change the fact that she was right.

TheVampiresWife · 10/05/2021 20:45

Have you knocked on the door to see if she needs anything? Help with the DC, a chat, support of any kind? Or was your first thought really just to come on MN and post your update?

@murdernextdoor

TwinkleToeMatilda · 10/05/2021 21:02

I really don’t understand why people post on MN and then get so arsey when people disagree with them! Why post then! Anyway, I wouldn’t be thrilled to be living next door to someone who killed a man but I do think people CAN change. This particular person is clearly a violent man who will never stop being violent but you can’t punish everyone who has ever made a mistake. As for the update OP it did come across rather distasteful. I hope the kids and woman are ok Sad

Joinedjustforthispost · 10/05/2021 21:10

Yabu and precious! If he was a danger to people he wouldn’t be out of prison, it sounds like a terrible thing happened he in his stupidity ended a poor persons life and I’m sure he’s spending the rest of his life paying for it, it’s not like he’s a convicted serial killer. Any one of us could easily get in to a fight and it go wrong even if you merely pushed someone in self defence and they hit there head.

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2021 21:17

@murdernextdoor

Well, well, well.

This is a wee update for all you... last night the BF beat the shit out his GF and was taken away by police. Yes, this was the same killer almost all of you said you'd be happy to live beside.

The guy is a cunt and my instincts were correct. He gave me bad vibes and now has once again shown his angry side. Hopefully she dumps him now so he won't be living next door.

You misrepresented his conviction in your thread title to draw the punters in.

You proceeded to post utter bollox like
"You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far."

You choose an incredibly tasteless username which, again, misrepresented the conviction.

And now you're back several months later to pat yourself on the back.

Go you.

KarmaStar · 10/05/2021 21:30

Yabu.not letting your dc and his play together ? Why?
Don't judge.wouldn't bother me at all,you need to calm down or your dc will pick up on your judgement .

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