To think that most men do respect women

[katieloves]

I’m concerned about the vilification of men that we’re hearing a lot about. I know there’s some men who disrespect women and this absolutely needs to stop, but equally I’ve witnessed women being equally disrespectful to men. I’ve seen plenty of women feeling up men etc. on a night out and it being laughed off. If this was reversed it would be considered assault. It feels like all men are being accused of treating women badly and I just don’t see it.

[quote RootyT00t]@Pumperthepumper

I'm not saying we shouldn't have it.[/quote]
Good! Then lets have it! What can society do about male violence?

And again; what are the consequences of misandry on society as a whole?

hijacking discussions or offering a more balanced point of view?

@LolaSmiles

toxic aggressive feminist women on here Aka female posters who have no time for people hijacking discussions about male violence to women by saying: NAMALT what about the men But men... But this issue about men... You all hate men Look at you nasty women Meanie toxic aggressive feminists

Summed it up perfectly.

Also, @littlepattilou, your last comment to me was sexist.

Is that okay, as long as it's only towards what you believe to be a man?

@RootyT00t U OK hun?

Serious question.

@Pumperthepumper this. Women who dare to speak positively about women being bullied off threads, social media and on a wider level, isolated.

Is that OK?

I think you should take a break from the thread @RootyT00t It's not doing you any good getting so angry and upset.

@Londonmummy66 if the boys are taking up the playground to play football then the school needs to look at that.

When DS was at Primary school they had some building work being done so part of the playground was closed off. So football was banned as it would take up too much room on the reduced playground. There were many mothers complaining at the school gates, saying that the boys needed their space. I was not one of them, I agreed with the school's argument. Many of these mothers were also the ones who talked about boys will be boys when their sons got into trouble. I hate that phrase and never used it in respect of my son.

Some parents attitudes need to change if we are going to change the attitudes of our sons as they grow into adulthood.

[quote littlepattilou]@RootyT00t U OK hun?

Serious question.[/quote]
Me? I'm absolutely sweet thanks. Just pleased I'm not one of the two posters you have bullied off the thread.

Aka female posters who have no time for people hijacking discussions about male violence to women by saying
I think some posters have forgotten the title of this thread!

Right, I'm going to take my own advice now and ignore the woman-haters and baiters...

Yes, it's amazing how it has gone completely unchecked that the MN OG feminists have arrived to spout their bile.

Sorry, we are talking about men. You're not allowed to talk about women.

@littlepattilou

Right, I'm going to take my own advice now and ignore the woman-haters and baiters...

Youl be missed x

@littlepattilou

I think you should take a break from the thread *@RootyT00t* It's not doing you any good getting so angry and upset.

Continue trying to goad me. You've tried bullying me off, now you're trying pushing me so il be reported.

I have dealt with far worse bullies than you, my dear.

@Pumperthepumper, I don't really want to go into this matter here, I enough accusations of using this issue as manipulative way to divert the discussion.

littlepattilou
What happened to make you behave so nastily towards others?

The word women is in the title!

Where were the balanced points of views being offered up? I must've missed those....

[quote RootyT00t]@Pumperthepumper this. Women who dare to speak positively about women being bullied off threads, social media and on a wider level, isolated.

Is that OK?[/quote]
What can society do to tackle the problem of male violence?

And people feeling they have to leave threads and block people on social media is hardly comparable with the number of women being murdered at the hands of men, every week, in the UK alone. If that’s the best you can come up with I’d suggest you don’t really see misogyny and misandry as comparable at all.

@OppsUpsSide

The word women is in the title!

But we aren't allowed to mention men on echo chamber threads where women just talk about themselves and how badly done to by men they are?

I have never said that they have said either of those things.

So where is the misandry on the thread other than the fact that many women are saying that they believe most men do not respect women?

Why are they not entitled to believe that based upon their lived experience?

Why should they have to lie about their lived experience of the way they have been treated by men in order to protect mens feelings?

Are you saying you don't believe the women who say this?

@Pumperthepumper

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist though does it?

86 men a week kill themselves and we don't care. It has even been mocked on this very th was. That OK?

Sorry, this very thread

[quote dontdisturbmenow]@Pumperthepumper, I don't really want to go into this matter here, I enough accusations of using this issue as manipulative way to divert the discussion.[/quote]
Join the club. I derail it cause I'm self indulgent and a man

[quote dontdisturbmenow]@Pumperthepumper, I don't really want to go into this matter here, I enough accusations of using this issue as manipulative way to divert the discussion.[/quote]
Fair enough but really, I suggest you do a bit of reading up on what male charities are doing to combat male suicide rates. It’s really important and it’s doing nobody any favours to pretend toxic masculinity and male violence don’t play huge parts in why those figures are so high.