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To think that most men do respect women

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katieloves · 13/03/2021 08:36

I’m concerned about the vilification of men that we’re hearing a lot about. I know there’s some men who disrespect women and this absolutely needs to stop, but equally I’ve witnessed women being equally disrespectful to men. I’ve seen plenty of women feeling up men etc. on a night out and it being laughed off. If this was reversed it would be considered assault. It feels like all men are being accused of treating women badly and I just don’t see it.

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HeathIns · 13/03/2021 15:20

Smile

Start a thread about male suicide and I’ll join it, banging a loud drum to the tune of “toxic masculinity is the main reason behind this”

How do you have the nerve to comment on male toxic attitudes and come out with stuff like that. Grim.

RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:20

The pile on on @dontdisturbmenow is disgraceful. Only on the sexist, misandry' world of MN could a post saying and???? To 86 men a week or the post that referred to male suicide as see they are even violent to themselves be OK, but don't disturb me challenging that gets a pile on.

Having been a poster the regular members of these topics enjoy harassing based on my views, I can recognise it straight away. Disgraceful behaviour.

RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:22

@BrumBoo

Why didn't you say that in the first place instead of turning up on threads to paint me out to be not even worth engaging with?

Because (I'm my humble opinion) you're not worth it. With this and the sex vs gender issue, you only ever want to play the whattaboutry game, and others are picking up on it.

'others', a handful of people who can't cope with it lot being an echo chamber. I'll survive.

The whataboutery game as you call it is the only thing stopping MN being ruled by aggressive , man hating feminists. So il continue, if that's okay with the posters who have decided they are the thread police and who is worth engaging with. The arrogance.

HeathIns · 13/03/2021 15:22

I’m out. There are some disgusting people on this thread and none of them are men.

toconclude · 13/03/2021 15:23

@HeathIns

I’m reading some of the threads on here today and misandry is definitely alive and well.
Misandry is a made-up term created by men who don't like to be called on their [or in some cases other men's] shit. And it's bandied about by a lot of frankly naive women.
supercee · 13/03/2021 15:23

@RootyT00t

The pile on on *@dontdisturbmenow* is disgraceful. Only on the sexist, misandry' world of MN could a post saying and???? To 86 men a week or the post that referred to male suicide as see they are even violent to themselves be OK, but don't disturb me challenging that gets a pile on.

Having been a poster the regular members of these topics enjoy harassing based on my views, I can recognise it straight away. Disgraceful behaviour.

My 'and' was a 'what's that got to do with the 97% of females who have faced harassment at the hands of a male'.

The fact that you've failed to address that and your constant poor men whataboutery is what I find disgusting but hey ho.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 13/03/2021 15:24

Men are afraid women will laugh at them.

Women are afraid men will kill them.

RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:24

@HeathIns

I’m out. There are some disgusting people on this thread and none of them are men.
Quite.

But they will chase the likes of yourself off this thread and should you re appear on another one will do everything they can to discredit you. These people will not be happy until the whole of MN is an echo chamber

littlepattilou · 13/03/2021 15:24

@SmileEachDay re your post at 15.13 Well said. And I would echo that same sentiment for the (small amount of) other woman-haters on here. Vile, the lot of them. As I say, don't engage then they'll run out of steam .. They'll get bored when no-one is taking their bait.

toconclude · 13/03/2021 15:25

@HeathIns

I’m out. There are some disgusting people on this thread and none of them are men.
Meanwhile men are killing three women a week.

Your moral compass is broken.

dontdisturbmenow · 13/03/2021 15:25

Don’t come on a thread that was triggered by the murder of Sarah Everard and use other incredibly tragic deaths as emotional blackmail
My post was a response to posters going in about how women are victimised by our healthcare system. I evidence that the healthcare system are letting down suicidal, mainly young men.

There is nothing that isx emotional blackmail in my post. Implying it is of really poor taste.

How ironic on a thread about how men are supposedly much more disrespectful than women.

Bid876 · 13/03/2021 15:25

[quote katieloves]@TheWaif the men I know including my 16 year old ds and his friends 100% respect women.[/quote]
How do you know 100% how your son and his friends act around girls when your not around? You can’t say they 100% respect girls because you just don’t know. Your deluded if you think teenagers don’t act differently around their mates when away from their parents. How many rapists, abusive men’s mums think their sons were angels???

Your right not all men are misogynistic pricks but you can’t say with 100% certainty that they have never crossed a line with women’s at some point in their lives.

Also men are not blamed for being assaulted, they are not told it’s because they were dressed like a slag asking for it, because they are wearing nice underwear under their clothes, or because they had a short skirt on, or they may have flirted with a guy or drunk too much and passed out so it was ok to be assaulted. Men are not put down and degraded because of the amount of sexual partners they have had.

How about in stead of wasting energy getting all indignant about women standing up for themselves and talking about a woman who was murdered walking home why don’t you sit your son and his friends down and talk to them about why women feel the way they do about how they are are treated by men the world over.

littlepattilou · 13/03/2021 15:25

One of them has bailed already thankfully... No loss.

RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:25

@toconclude

Well, I don't think misogny is half as prevalent, and those who bandy it are just as nasty as some of the men we speak of, but there we are.

Calling misandry' a made up term is indicative of your level of comprehension so Im wasting my time.

And I'm naive 😂

Twintub · 13/03/2021 15:25

I honestly don’t think if you started a thread about male suicide woman would jump on saying woman do too that’s because we know that men are more susceptible too it. If there was a thread on female suicide we would te those tales there. Unfortunately the case I know of female suicide was caused by her boyfriends abuse and actually he was charged with some hand in he death. BUT this topic is a whole other thread and not for this thread.

RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:26

@littlepattilou

One of them has bailed already thankfully... No loss.
I'm glad you are so pleased to have bullied someone off a thread. Well done you.
Pumperthepumper · 13/03/2021 15:26

@HeathIns

Smile

Start a thread about male suicide and I’ll join it, banging a loud drum to the tune of “toxic masculinity is the main reason behind this”

How do you have the nerve to comment on male toxic attitudes and come out with stuff like that. Grim.

I think you might have misread this, toxic masculinity does play a huge part in men’s mental health. And in men’s reluctance to engage with prostate screening. And in stopping them speaking to someone about anger issues or alcohol problems. Men’s charities are very clear on this.
RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:26

@Twintub

I honestly don’t think if you started a thread about male suicide woman would jump on saying woman do too that’s because we know that men are more susceptible too it. If there was a thread on female suicide we would te those tales there. Unfortunately the case I know of female suicide was caused by her boyfriends abuse and actually he was charged with some hand in he death. BUT this topic is a whole other thread and not for this thread.
They wouldn't care.

They'd just jump on to remind us it's a male problem.

littlepattilou · 13/03/2021 15:27

@Bid876

How do you know 100% how your son and his friends act around girls when your not around? You can’t say they 100% respect girls because you just don’t know. Your deluded if you think teenagers don’t act differently around their mates when away from their parents. How many rapists, abusive men’s mums think their sons were angels???

Youre right not all men are misogynistic pricks but you can’t say with 100% certainty that they have never crossed a line with women’s at some point in their lives.

Also men are not blamed for being assaulted, they are not told it’s because they were dressed like a slag asking for it, because they are wearing nice underwear under their clothes, or because they had a short skirt on, or they may have flirted with a guy or drunk too much and passed out so it was ok to be assaulted. Men are not put down and degraded because of the amount of sexual partners they have had.

How about instead of wasting energy getting all indignant about women standing up for themselves and talking about a woman who was murdered walking home why don’t you sit your son and his friends down and talk to them about why women feel the way they do about how they are are treated by men the world over.

FANTASTIC intelligent post! Very said..

RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:27

@dontdisturbmenow

Don’t come on a thread that was triggered by the murder of Sarah Everard and use other incredibly tragic deaths as emotional blackmail My post was a response to posters going in about how women are victimised by our healthcare system. I evidence that the healthcare system are letting down suicidal, mainly young men.

There is nothing that isx emotional blackmail in my post. Implying it is of really poor taste.

How ironic on a thread about how men are supposedly much more disrespectful than women.

Again, bang on.
TheJerkStore · 13/03/2021 15:27

Well, I don't think misogny is half as prevalent

I'm a university academic who researches this for my job. I can tell you it's more prevalent than you think.

SmileEachDay · 13/03/2021 15:27

How do you have the nerve to comment on male toxic attitudes and come out with stuff like that. Grim

Toxic masculinity has an awful lot to do with male suicide. You’re showing your ignorance there.

RootyT00t · 13/03/2021 15:28

@TheJerkStore

Well, I don't think misogny is half as prevalent

I'm a university academic who researches this for my job. I can tell you it's more prevalent than you think.

In your professional knowledge then, will I assume misandry' is not a real thing?
LolaSmiles · 13/03/2021 15:29

Well, I don't think misogny is half as prevalent, and those who bandy it are just as nasty as some of the men we speak of, but there we are.
Yes, individual women standing up for women's rights and safety is very nasty.

They wouldn't care.
They'd just jump on to remind us it's a male problem
(Plays worlds finest violin)

Men really are the victims in your world.

MessAllOver · 13/03/2021 15:30

Just to add, males account for 3/4 of all suicides.

What do male suicide rates have to do with preventable maternal deaths? Surely the obvious comparison is with female suicide rates?