To think Harry threw Meghan to the lions

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OK apologies its another thread on this but hear me out

So I've watched the interview and I think Harry actually comes off looking much worse and that Meghan is actually suffering because he's a pretty shit partner.

On watching it and if you take what she says at face value:

Why didn't he tell her what it was all about given that she said she didn't know anything about the royals?

Why didn't he warn her what happened to his mother if she was that unaware?

Why didn't he arrange mental health support given he's had a therapist on speed dial for years?

Why didn't he stand up against Kate if she made Meghan cry?

Why have another child if he knows that there won't be any security for Archie?

Why not sort out a realistic plan to support himself before leaving rather than making knee jerk reactions which put his wife and child at risk?

So many questions that actually make Harry look like a pretty shit husband. To me he seems to be the one that is responsible for putting Meghan into the situation she's in now and then to make himself look better throws his family under the bus rather than take responsibility.

YANBU - Harry needs to take some responsibility for Meghan's experiences

YABU - he is not to blame for what happened to her.

I met Prince Andrew once when I was a teenager. He didn't try to have sex with me. I didn't think I was that ugly

'if you take what Meghan says at face value' - I think you would be very stupid to do that.

He does have interests e.g. the military, London Marathon etc. It was all taken away from him. Very petty of the RF imo.
In what way? Once they stepped away and he becomes non working he can't hold the same positions etc as a working royal , how can people not see that , some things just come with the job
But like having a company car you can't keep it if you leave the company

@donewithitalltodayandxmas

When Charles becomes King, all his grandchildren become Prince/Princess. That's the convention. Simple as that. The Institution were allegedly trying to alter that so that Archie would not get that title. That's blatant racism in action. This runs through the male lines only so it's why Zara and Peter Philips are not titled Princess/Prince but Eugenie and Beatrice are both Princesses. Archie and any sibling should have the same right to a title that Eugenie and Beatrice have. Simple as that

Its been known for ages charles wants to slim down the monarchy Eugenie and Beatrice are the queens grandchildren
Whichever one of them has just had a baby won't get the right to be a prince either
But we don't even know exactly what was said and it appeared like they were talking about more when he was born.

Eugenie’s baby is the great grandchild of the monarch and won’t ever be the grandchild (unless, god help us, Andrew somehow gets his hands on the crown). Archie will be the grandson of the monarch when Charles is king. So it isn’t the same situation. Archie will be in an equivalent situation to where Beatrice and Eugenie are now, not the same situation as their children.

Was also a rubbish interview as she didn't really challenge any answers
Also you can have sympathy for her in some things , whilst still having doubts about some of what was said and not think the interview was the right thing to do as well and that doesn't make you racist.
I have a lesser opinion of him as I think he really hadn't prepared her and if he has wanted to get out as some on here claim , why didn't he move to the usa and let her continue her career as supposedly that was offered for her to remain an actress.
I think its very easy to say things and make certain accusations against people who you know can't retaliate.
I would like to see the palace investigate the racism remarks but if they don't name the person how can that even be done ?

Racism is unacceptable and needs to be investigated/stopped
Mental health issues - very sad indeed
However:
They have access to any kind of therapy available; I would give anything to have a good psychiatrist at my beck and call rather than wait months on the NHS, while self harming etc.
I didn’t watch the interview tbh: I have no time for people who discuss their private lives in such a public way. I just wish they would go away and live their lives.

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Eugenie’s baby is the great grandchild of the monarch and won’t ever be the grandchild (unless, god help us, Andrew somehow gets his hands on the crown).
Archie will be the grandson of the monarch when Charles is king. So it isn’t the same situation. Archie will be in an equivalent situation to where Beatrice and Eugenie are now, not the same situation as their children.*
I am aware of that but as it stands now they are both great grandchildren of the queen.
Charles has wanted to slim down the monarchy when he becomes king which is well known , but we don't know if that means changing his grandchildren's titles, even they were not clear on this ,it sounded more like they were talking about her and now

Gutted that the Palace have actually acknowledged it. Thought they would rise above it

@DrManhattan they had to acknowledge it otherwise it would have been 'you heartless bastards' again just like it was when HMQ wanted to keep the boys in Scotland with her after Diana died, and they were forced back to London. I think they did rise above it, there is no tit for tat in that statement.

Shes a grown woman and knew exactly what she was getting herself into! Not Harry's fault (although hes not coming out of this well either) shes a better actress than I thought in Suits and shes got the fame she craved.

I'm sure she knew how to phone a Dr. In fact they found their own Dr. For childbirth so she proved herself able to email/phone another service......

Because I don't think it's quite the way they represented it.

@HalfGalHalfCake Best Post I've seen

I really cringed when he came out with that guff about not being able to get help for Meghan because it wasnt the done thing. He’s meant to be a mental health advocate! I think he’s weak and a coward.

@dishedup I agree. For me the whole kate/ dress thing finds Meghan very wanting in any empathy at all. She talks about how Kate should have considered her feelings and how stressful it was for her. I'm just picturing someone coming on mumsnet and saying "my very pregnant SIL has just had her third baby and is now getting upset about having to take her other kid back for multiple dress fittings when she's still up feeding the baby all night and plus she won't just do what I want. She should consider my feelings coz I'm the bride". I think I know how that would go...

@cheezy

I really cringed when he came out with that guff about not being able to get help for Meghan because it wasnt the done thing. He’s meant to be a mental health advocate! I think he’s weak and a coward.

And everyone's forgetting that they were promoted as "the fab four" working together on mh issues.

Perhaps the crux of all this lies in the fact they were expected to back up K & W while not receiving the same privileges.

I think the Queen's statement was genius, "some recollections may vary." Burn!

Maybe because I was watching The Crown but what if it was Camilla that made the comments about Archie and this is Harry's way of getting revenge for what she did to his Mum?

@Theunamedcat

I felt irrationally cross about this earlier personally right now im not working im a carer i get paid £67 and change a week to look after my sen child 24/7 when I hopefully return to work I will be paying tax on my wages it feels they want the amount I pay in taxes to pay for them and there children not pay towards sen services that would improve and enrich my child's life not pay towards services for the elderly to support families in England etc they want the money that i earn being away from my children to pay for there's so they dont have to dip into there millions and pay for themselves they are a two parent family (I am not) they are healthy and wealthy and overseas thriving to use there words this might not be what they mean to say but it feels like they feel more entitled to the money that I earn than everyone else? They have skills Harry could always go back into the military meghan could do her acting they can just get a dam job like the rest of us

Agree with this 100%

The few clips I saw, I thought Oprah was shockingly poor.

She can't act for toffee with her faux surprise.

@HyacynthBucket

I do not believe a word of what she said in the interview. Most of it is verifiably untrue (but not the racism allegation which may be something or nothing). She should have done her research about joining the royal family, and he should have told her beforehand what to expect. As for her coming over better than him - no. They both behaved abyssmally, but she is more calculating than him, and it is all part of a act. I had an open mind about her before, but now can see that she is not to be trusted.

Yes I agree And let’s not forget this was no 36 year old shrinking violet..she’d been round the block a few times. We know she has one previous husband under her belt..just saying She might be playing the demure duchess now..but I don’t think that’s always been the case. I think underneath the demure exterior there is someone who can be conniving, controlling and certainly futs the narrative of what Meghan wants Meghan gets.

As for Meghan chucked under a bus, I think Harry well and truly chucked his family under the bus

@billy1966

The few clips I saw, I thought Oprah was shockingly poor.

She can't act for toffee with her faux surprise.

Well I read that differently. I thought she was going really gentle on her/ them so that she would / they would let their guard down and I think she succeeded.

I think she was playing lovely friend Oprah
Notice how she let her ramble on a bit, had a laugh with her , then took her back to something far more meaty.

I think she stitched them up like kippers.

William dated Kate for 10 years before they got married. He made sure she knew what she was getting into. Harry got married to Meghan way too fast. They only dated, long distance too, for a year before getting engaged. Harry should have eased her into a royal role but instead he rushed her in. Harry is to blame for not taking longer to ease Meghan into role.

I just find it fascinating that H and M give this interview and it turns into the worst attack on the monarchy in 75 years, yet Prince Andrew is all over the news involving paedophilia and the fuss dies within days...

Good on them to get out, I don’t know what is the fuss about really, it is not like Harry is abdicating the crown.

I really feel for Meghan. I hope she feels at peace after speaking out. She's had relentless battering from all sides. Even if you do not like her, it's not hard to see how utterly awful it must have been for her.

Why didn't he tell her what it was all about given that she said she didn't know anything about the royals?

Because he didn't know until he met her. He clearly said this.

Prince Edward’s kids ARE the grandchildren of the monarch, and even they were denied the title of prince/princes.

It’s all about sliming down the royal family, and nothing to do with racism!