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To think Harry threw Meghan to the lions

436 replies

Arielsvoice · 09/03/2021 16:00

OK apologies its another thread on this but hear me out

So I've watched the interview and I think Harry actually comes off looking much worse and that Meghan is actually suffering because he's a pretty shit partner.

On watching it and if you take what she says at face value:

Why didn't he tell her what it was all about given that she said she didn't know anything about the royals?

Why didn't he warn her what happened to his mother if she was that unaware?

Why didn't he arrange mental health support given he's had a therapist on speed dial for years?

Why didn't he stand up against Kate if she made Meghan cry?

Why have another child if he knows that there won't be any security for Archie?

Why not sort out a realistic plan to support himself before leaving rather than making knee jerk reactions which put his wife and child at risk?

So many questions that actually make Harry look like a pretty shit husband. To me he seems to be the one that is responsible for putting Meghan into the situation she's in now and then to make himself look better throws his family under the bus rather than take responsibility.

YANBU - Harry needs to take some responsibility for Meghan's experiences

YABU - he is not to blame for what happened to her.

OP posts:
Theunamedcat · 10/03/2021 12:49

Google her mother she is a trained mental health worker why didn't she or Harry ring her mom if she was in crisis? I dont doubt she was unwell but to try and say they had no help available is unbelievable to my mind 🤷‍♀️ I would like to believe her about this but its not adding up

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 10/03/2021 12:53

Yes. She specifically said they had been informed that the protocols would be changed so that he would lose his right to the title of Prince which, as things stand, would be his automatic right when Charles becomes King.
Oh right must of missed this part in the interview , half arsed watching to be truthful. But its not secret that Charles planned to massively slim down the monarchy when he is king , thats been being said for a while and actually in some that gives other members more freedom.
Im sure zara and Peter whilst having a privileged life , and still in the spot light have had a much more carefree life than say William and Harry

RootyT00t · 10/03/2021 12:57

@eddiemairswife

I often wonder how things would have turned out if Diana had worn a seatbelt.
Disgusting.
RootyT00t · 10/03/2021 12:58

@Theunamedcat

Google her mother she is a trained mental health worker why didn't she or Harry ring her mom if she was in crisis? I dont doubt she was unwell but to try and say they had no help available is unbelievable to my mind 🤷‍♀️ I would like to believe her about this but its not adding up
Because she didn't want to tell her mum? Because she doesn't have a good relationship? Because family members can't treat you anyway?
Anordinarymum · 10/03/2021 12:59

I don't really care what he did and what she said in her very expensive dress sitting there looking so sorry for her (very rich and privileged) self living the life millions would envy.
I just wish I were a penny behind them

Theunamedcat · 10/03/2021 13:00

Because she was suicidal having a major mental health crisis and her mother could have helped?

RootyT00t · 10/03/2021 13:01

@Theunamedcat

Because she was suicidal having a major mental health crisis and her mother could have helped?
Could she?

Are you in the know about Meghan's relationship with her mother?

malificent7 · 10/03/2021 13:09

What i don't get is why two grown women were fighting and crying over bridesmaids/ flower girl dresses and why Meghan got so upset about that being printed.
I understand her being upset over her dad's letter and racism but a petty argument...nah. i do think Kate gets treated differently by the press though.

Spidey66 · 10/03/2021 13:19

There's a Royal Family sub forum on MN. Why don't people use it?

I watched the interview (it's lockdown, and I was bored) but I have zero interest in and opinions on the RF. The most exciting thing about it IMO was the Piers Morgan saga.

Insertdeadcatsnamehere · 10/03/2021 13:25

Wow this thread is absolutely crackers. The vitriol for someone none of you have ever even met and the weird smugness that you all seem to think you've somehow "seen through" something is completely fucking mental. The fake "confusion" over what she said about getting married before the actual wedding (it was crystal clear that she meant it was just a symbolic, private thing rather than anything offical) It's like an internalised misogyny party. You all need to get a grip and have a good look at yourselves and where all this unhinged hatred comes from.

I do think Harry might possibly not be the sharpest tool in the box though.

BootsieBarnes · 10/03/2021 13:35

Does anyone feel a little bit sorry for Meghan now being stuck with Harry? Just a tiny bit.

Let's face it, she's got the smarts to make it with Netflix and Spotify if she plays her cards right. But I suspect once they get through this and into 'real work', she's going to have to do the heavy lifting. He's been used to having so many safety nets throughout his life, will she able to keep him propped up.

Suspect she will thrive and he will end up sidelined and irrelevant longer term. She seems much smarter than him.

ancientgran · 10/03/2021 13:43

She does seem smarter and stronger than him but that can work, all couples are different.

BootsieBarnes · 10/03/2021 13:52

True. But not many couples involve someone who has been brought up with as much privilege and entitlement as a royal. When the going gets really tough is he going to have the resilience to see it through? she will need to be everything to him as he's estranged from his family. That's a lot for one person to take on. Think she's got her work cut out.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 10/03/2021 13:52

@Insertdeadcatsnamehere when people do such a public interview you can only expect people to comment , and you have commented about the comments with your opinion also making judgements on people you don't know ?
And also how you took the conversation its not how others took it as it wasn't said as clear as you make it , a lot was a bit ambiguous tbf, so people are reading in yo it the way they have interpreted.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 10/03/2021 13:54

One thing is clear lots of people need to realise your opinion doesn't make you right and others wrong , we can all have an opinion, you don't have to agree to it , but it doesn't make it less valid than your own

ancientgran · 10/03/2021 13:58

@BootsieBarnes

True. But not many couples involve someone who has been brought up with as much privilege and entitlement as a royal. When the going gets really tough is he going to have the resilience to see it through? she will need to be everything to him as he's estranged from his family. That's a lot for one person to take on. Think she's got her work cut out.
Who knows. The Duchess of Windsor seemed to manage but I think it probably was hard for her. I always felt she got a bit of a raw deal but she might have been deliriously happy for all I know.
SeldomFollowedIt · 10/03/2021 14:00

Not buying it. Her mother was a social worker working specifically in MH services. Pour me another drink and try again Megs. Embarassing.

Spidey66 · 10/03/2021 14:19

@SeldomFollowedIt

Not buying it. Her mother was a social worker working specifically in MH services. Pour me another drink and try again Megs. Embarassing.
And? Does that give her mother the ability to read Meghan's mind? Maybe Meghan for one reason or another didn't want her mum involved.

I can't imagine anyone saying they'd had suicidal thoughts unless they had, tbh.

DrManhattan · 10/03/2021 14:22

Be all over in 5 years

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Spidey66 · 10/03/2021 14:34

I've worked in mental health for 35 years. It may happen occasionally but I don't think without further questioning you can just dismiss it.

x2boys · 10/03/2021 14:35

Um I know plenty of people who work in mental health who are reluctant to get help for their own mental health ,so I'm not sure how her mum being a social worker means it's not true

SeldomFollowedIt · 10/03/2021 14:35

@Spidey66

Indeed, but she has form for dysfunctional behaviour. Didn’t Google her future husband who happens to be the prince of England.

Okay righto.

GreenlandTheMovie · 10/03/2021 14:36

@BootsieBarnes

Does anyone feel a little bit sorry for Meghan now being stuck with Harry? Just a tiny bit.

Let's face it, she's got the smarts to make it with Netflix and Spotify if she plays her cards right. But I suspect once they get through this and into 'real work', she's going to have to do the heavy lifting. He's been used to having so many safety nets throughout his life, will she able to keep him propped up.

Suspect she will thrive and he will end up sidelined and irrelevant longer term. She seems much smarter than him.

Yes. I'm surprised she's with him. He seems a bit of a drip, with anger issues, wants money from his father, no job, privileged and arrogant.

Perhaps he has hidden depths that aren't obvious. I do wonder how she can stand him though. I think any member of the RF would be hard work, but perhaps she's just not been with him long enough for the novelty to have worn off.

Spidey66 · 10/03/2021 14:43

[quote SeldomFollowedIt]@Spidey66

Indeed, but she has form for dysfunctional behaviour. Didn’t Google her future husband who happens to be the prince of England.

Okay righto.[/quote]
And people with 'dysfunctional behaviour' often have suicidal thoughts. Which you should know. People with EUPD have high levels of suicide, for example. Not that I'm saying that MM has EUPD, of course, just using that as an example as people with EUPD are often dysfunctional.