To be annoyed that our local tescos have changed their P&C spaces to disabled.

[Jenswish]

There was a letter in the local paper from a disabled person saying that the P&C spaces weren't needed and that they should be changed to disabled ones.

Even though there is disabled spaces about 1 min walk from the door anyway.

They've now got rid of P&C spaces and replaced them with yet more disabled!! Theres about 30 of them now but no-where for the mum and kids.

Am I being evil?

i thought that the point of p and c spaces was that they are wider to get carseat and children in and out.
if this is the case they dont have to be on the shop doorstep so if tesco put them back a bit no one else would want to use them.
please feel free to tell me that i am wrong

I don;'t think anyone actualy knows why they exist pud (which would be because they're a marketing ploy- one pf the big chains started it then advertised it too make your shopping experience easier or something and so the others followed. They shoould have elderly but none blue badge entitled bays really as well but they don't spent enough to warrant the marketing).

One school of thought is that its to get the car seat out, but no-one does that once they're baby is beyond a few months (few days if its not a PFB , ds3 was in a blanket on the reclining trolleys from the beginning). Other shcool of thought is that its to provide a safe walkway to the store - but in 2 of my local shops they're in the worst place safety wise, with no clear walkways and loads of enranged mothers queuing (why why why?) to get their spot.

Honestly, save the blood pessure. Park anywhere. You'll live longer. Maybe long enough to earn a blue badge then you can park in the disabled spaces. It's a real treat.

also p&t spaces are a courtesy, disabled spaces have to be there

i'm trying so hard not to get into this thread

'you' being 'one' in that last post.

Yurt...thre's always one. well in your case 2, exceptions to the rule!!

It does fascinate me about what gets people going on this site... If the OP had not mentioned disabled spaces, and simply been a whinge about the loss of P&C spaces, would it have opened up such a debate?

yep, it would have a) because someone else would have said 'there's always loads of disabled ones' and someone else would have said 'I let down the tyres of a disabled person who parked in a p&T space once' and b) lots of people really reallly don't see the fuss even if the entire world was able bodied (and wouldn't that be lovely).

Dont', Im not supposed to laugh at unholy comments about letting disabled peoples tyres down!

I did laugh when my boss told me the other day that one of our staff ran over one of our residents walking frame though ... luckily the owner of the frame had already ambled inside, she had just left the frame directly behind the car...

sorry, nothing to do with the thread... but it made me smile!

I suppose that without the mention of disabled spaces it might have taken a different track as a thread.

I don't normally post on these threads, but I get a bit cheesed off with people complaining about how, whenever they go somewhere, there are loads of disabled spaces. On the one time in a week when I get outside the house I damn well need there to be a space for me, or we go home again.

I appreciate the convenience of wider spaces when you have childers, as I have them too, as well as crutches and a wheelchair, but seriously, you will cope.

And never mind on MN, there's always a letter in the local papers every single bloody week about it.

I agree SueBaroo. It's as if the disabled spaces have no right to be there unless they are completely full all the time. If I turn up somewhere and can't park ds1 will smash his head against the window repeatedly. It's why I don't go anywhere where our only option is disabled spaces because if they're full (as they often are) we're in BIG trouble (and ds1 will have a bruised head- increasingly someone else will be attacked as well).

Somoene on here DID let a disabled persons tyres down for parking in P&C. If she was telling the truth that is ( because supposedly the police were called and just told her not to do it again or some such nonsense). I mean, talk about self centred.

"There are women out there who work long hours in low paid jobs, just about manage to afford to run a car to get to work, and need to shop in person to get marked down stuff. Not everyone has the money to shop at Ocado.

Try working all day, picking up tired and whining kids, trudging across a rain soaked carpark and you might just see the point of P&C places."

Yes, that will be me actually

I don;t shop at ocado. I can't afford it (even though I managed to spend loadsamoney on nothing in wanky shops today )

I have a low paid job (esp for what I do)

I start work at 7 am, and ofetn work evenings til gone midnight

I work 40 hours a week altogrther, as well as being a pretty much FT mum

I still don;t get hetnup about P&T spaces

I do get het up about being jusged to be a rich twat because I shop onlione

I do get fed up with seeing silly bints in their 4x4 parking in the P$C spaces to pop to the cash point, and the blokes in suits who a just popping in to get a sandwich.

Also the people who park in the disabled spots outside the local bank when there is clearly nothing disabled about then (as far as I know being a lazy twot is NOT a disability)

DH who is the quietest man in the whole world told someone off the other day for parking in the disabled bay as there was a car with a blue badge trying to park.

Some people are just ignorant

This thread has really taken on a mind of its own.

I have one last thing to add (which isn't here to start an argument) All those who are using the argument in the old days.

Everything has changed since then, I've learnt a lesson which is "if you're going to have a winge about P&C spaces, don't mention disabled spaces" i'm sure things would have been different if them few words were left out.

I'm now going to back out and I think we should all just drop this as everyone seems to be getting more and more annoyed about something that should have been a quick note.

I just don't get all the fuss about P&C spaces at all. Around here, they only exist in supermarket car parks. If you want to park in town then the spaces are all the same size and guess what - we all manage!

I think someone should make a space just for me as I can not park for toffee this is why I have not put in for my test yet as I know I will fail on the parking, I need space for at least 3 cars and a kurb that will move out to the car.

Damn Fio, you beat me.

Now will you just Get Real

guess what?

Peter used a normal car park space today

i'll let you win fio

yes, but only because you work in woolies (does it beat my student status? Probably I expect some students shop in Ocado - otherwise we have of course parallel lives except my baby is now a manic toddler).
Congrats LVOC.