To be annoyed that our local tescos have changed their P&C spaces to disabled.

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There was a letter in the local paper from a disabled person saying that the P&C spaces weren't needed and that they should be changed to disabled ones.

Even though there is disabled spaces about 1 min walk from the door anyway.

They've now got rid of P&C spaces and replaced them with yet more disabled!! Theres about 30 of them now but no-where for the mum and kids.

Am I being evil?

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Oh Doodle - You've made my day with that!!!

Agree with OJ.
It must have been at least a fortnight!

"Theres about 30 of them now but no-where for the mum and kids."

how about every other space in the car park like the rest of us?

The OP isn't saying she should have priority, she clearly said there are lots of disabled places already.

Can't you question anything like this on mumsnet without being jumped on, accused of being selfish, accused of begrudging disabled places, flying round on a broomstick blah blah

At least read what she is actually saying before doing the holier than thou bit - of which there is a hell of a lot on mumsnet?

Oooh, marvellous, a P&T space tread.

I've missed these.

The P&T spaces are not a right. How did people manage before they were thought up

I used to go shopping with my 2 who are only 20 months aprt 4 weeks after a CS and there were no P&T spaces, so I just PARKED SOMEWHERE ELSE. UIt's a novel idea,. but it works.

I find the best time to go is 10pm, when mty little darlingfs are safeley tucked up. Otherwise I order online.

chochip... MN is full of perfect saints, didn't you know? Ready to leap on and slag off any poor soul who doesn't agree with them.
It's their way or the highway, boring I know but there you go.

Get real, Fio.

And we aren't all perfect saints, we just realise there is more to life getting pissed off about some parking spaces.

Dearie me..what a commotion about nothing!
I for one was delighted to find that there was at least ONE advantage to shopping with a baby. When mine were young there wasn't online shopping.

I was far too busy and in too much pain to park at the other end of a car park and walk further than every other bugger.

Sounds like a lot of people are these that were discharged 2 hours after giving birth and ran the marathon within a week.

Don't slag off anything that's given to you for free..you all sound so macho...I for one embraced the idea that I was treated as a special person at a time when I felt so shit.

My dad's disabled and he would never begrudge some spaces being given up for mums with babies.

SK

But surely that was a temporary state. Why would you still need p+c spaces once you've recovered?

I thought the OP was saying that there were already disabled spaces, but that the P&T spaces were turned into more disabled spaces, and that was what she was unhappy about, not that there shouldn't be disabled spaces at all, or that P&T spaces were a priority?

Has anyone jumping on the OP actually read the OP.

In November and December our local supermarket car parks are full. That means that the spaces at the back are full too. So if you park at the back you get no more space than anywhere else - what do you do then?

Yes, there are other more important matters, but shall we go through active convos and single out all the unworthy threads? There's always something more important, MN is for everyone, not just the people who want to discuss VERY SERIOUS matters.

And, as someone's going to come on and say park at the back and walk, I will repeat:

In November and December our local supermarket car parks are full. That means that the spaces at the back are full too. So if you park at the back you get no more space than anywhere else - what do you do then?

Erm, no I didn;t get discharged from hospital 2 hours aftre giving birth, I had an emergeny CS after 18 hours of labour with DS1 and a planned CS with DS2, I was in hospital a week the first time and 3 days the second. I was in agaony both times

I still didn;t think that P&T spaces were my god given right.

No I definitely agree they're not a god given right and they're not important in the way blue badge spaces are, but they are useful!

Problem is the supermarkets have made spaces smaller to get more cars in and our supermarket is always full. So order online.
On terrifying car parks, try Sainburys in Bexhill on Sea. Average driver age 100, have witnessed MANY mad accidents, eg driving through the fence onto railway or driving into shop window. Take little ones there at your peril!

Indeed they are

but why not shop online instead? It saves loads of hassle.

In times gione by, there wen't P&T spaces, because most ewpole didn[t rely on big out of town supermarkets to getn their shoppoing, they would WALK to the shops and get enough for a few days rather then buying 200 quids worth of stuff in one go. Granted, this isn;t always possible nowadays, but still, there are worse things in the world than not getting a parking space within 1m of the door.

In the garbnd scheme of things, is walking an extra 100 yards to the shop really sucha big deal?

But sometimes the spaces at the back are no better!

Shopping online is fine as long as you don't want something 'non-grocery' from the supermarket (e.g. birthday card, printer paper) I usually do

Or don't need to fill up with petrol
If they delivered that, it ould be fantastic!

well, I have always managed to get my kids out of the car in norla sized spaces

and i have a humungous arse and massive saddlebags.

I'll join in the competitive arse sizing!!
TBH I don't really have a problem now but in the 1st couple of months I used to struggle getting the car seat in and out.
Plus if you are unlucky enough to have had someone park really close while you were shopping, what do you do? sit kids on the road while you pull out to let them in?

Re: Juuule's "But surely that was a temporary state. Why would you still need p+c spaces once you've recovered?"

I never said I did! There's always new mums coming along that need these spaces...but at that time I did appreciate and use them.

Re: Intergalactic Walrus's
"....I had an emergeny CS after 18 hours of labour with DS1 and a planned CS with DS2, I was in hospital a week the first time and 3 days the second. I was in agaony both times

I still didn;t think that P&T spaces were my god given right."

Same as me, both times, emergency CS, then planned CS, followed by agony! But I didn't say that I thought P&T spaces were a God given right, just that it was nice to be treated as special when I felt so shit!

I have to wonder whether the letter to the paper in the OP's intro was disabled. I suspect not. As I say my disabled dad would NEVER begrudge help for mums with babies.

I think our local Asda has got it right. Loads of disabled spaces near the entrance and then there are spaces for mums parked right down the side, after all the trolly spaces and hole in the wall machines the length of the rest of Asda and beyond, right next to the pavement. Even though it's a longer walk, mums can get babies out whilst not worrying that any of their other children are running off into the path of cars.

SK

i have to say i get very angry when people with no kids use the P&C spaces i get so angry when we are looking for a space big enough to be able to open the doors enough to get our kids in their seats and fasten them in without denting or scrasching ours or the other persons car!! but we would never begrudge the disabled their spaces.... we have 2 toddlers (18m and 2.11yo) and it is a struggle to get them in and out, but if we need to we park at the empty end of the carpark and walk further to get a space where there is no-one either side of us!!