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To award my DC all the points

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SayHelloToMe · 26/02/2021 23:35

DC is in reception. He is a summer baby so still 4.

When he started school, they gave this class point system to the class. Each day, some kids make it to gold. There is a big fuss of clapping etc.

DC has really set his heart to get to gold. Pre lockdown he was helping TAs clear up after lessons. He is bright, very good at maths, well ahead his peer.

Each day while at school, it was only the naughty kids who made it to school... behavioural issues, learning difficulties... so during lockdown, it was only the kids attending school who got to gold.

It’s painful to see him get his hopes up and never get it.

After I complained to school about home schooled children missing out, they said parents could award kids up to 3 points each day to be redeemed when school starts again.

AIBU to award him all the 3 points for each day of homeschool? He’s done all the homework, helped at home, been flexible around my work, etc.

OP posts:
Botanicals · 28/02/2021 22:24

I hope that spineless, nasty piece of work has been banned?

hopegone · 28/02/2021 22:30

Disgusting

Morph2lcfc · 28/02/2021 22:41

@twelly

Education is underfunded in so many areas , SEND is underfunded but sadly I feel that it along with many others areas will never be funded to the degree that we would all like. Therefore it is a case to seeking the best way of allocating resources. The changes made towards inclusivity a number of years ago has not been revisited , specialist units or providing small specialist classes within schools may be more appropriate.
what is being said as inclusivity isn't really inclusivity though. Its trying to do SEN education on the cheap by dressing it up as being inclusivity when its really nothing at all to do with that and as i've said in a previous post is just highlighting to sen children how different they are. If inclusivity was done properly and was properly funded then maybe it could work but that would also take a massive shift in attitude from parents to stop complaining about how unfair it was that sen children were getting extra support and their child wasn't.
twelly · 28/02/2021 22:51

We need to take the parent view out of this - parents are not in the classroom . The teacher is the one in classroom, as a parent we don't know exactly what is taking place, as a parent you will know the circumstances of your own child not of the others within that class. This applies to all parents those with a ECHP those without. I agree that not all schools allocate funding as it is intended. Often schools and SENCOs will support cases for hours more than needed as this increases school funding. The system needs looking at with the alternatives considered.

waitingpatientlyforspring · 28/02/2021 22:55

@SayHelloToMe

What about non SEN children? Why don’t they ever Get rewarded? Genuine question.
My dcs primary did star of the week. 30 children in a class, 38 weeks a year so you would think every child would get it at least once a year. In 7 years both of my children probably got it 4 times each. The less well behaved children- I don't know if their is SEN issues in all of them as I don't know them well enough but they are certainly the children my dc's would complain about being disruptive and getting warnings/yellow/red cards were the ones who got star of the week all the time. My children noticed and commented and asked why they didn't get this recognition.
Newnamefor2021 · 01/03/2021 11:33

@waitingpatientlyforspring

The point is you don't know what's going on in those children's lives?

Our school seem to equally aware all children, mine all with and without SEN seem to get a relatively equal number of certificates. We don't have a yellow/red system thankfully, as that sounds awful.

The point is you don't know the whole story for each child. Perhaps the child whose behaviour is terrible has recently been taken into care. Frankly, a child negotiating that sort of turmoil needs that recognised. The child who was sexually assaulted by a neighbour, the child whose parents just divorced, or the child who grandmother just died, or simply how hard they worked.

My eldest pretty much missed his entire infant experience. He was constantly excluded every day, trust me he never got a single aware ever, he sat in the heads office shredding paper most days. We moved and he started a new school, he's doing amazingly, shows what a difference a school can make, he's not had any of those issues at all in this school. However, academically he was obviously behind, he's now average to higher level of maths, his English is still behind but school give him lots of verbal praise for achieving which might seem unfair to you and others but really it's a huge accomplishment. You know what too? Children encourage each other in their school. When he once volunteered to say a part in a play, the other children cheered and put their hands down so he would get the part, equally we all cheer for other children. We all cheer for children who have physical disabilities but still run the race, children sometimes run slower so that the child with the disability wins.

We look out for each other because we know that not everyone has the same opportunities in life, that's doesn't mean we don't cheer for chicken without the same disadvantages, of course we do, we know whose the most academic, the best speakers, the best runner, the best dancer, they get awarded on their talents and abilities too, but at the same time we cam celebrate those without those same things.

eightxmaspaws · 01/03/2021 19:17

@Morph2lcfc Yes, I understand very well. The funding isn't there, constant battles against budget cuts, the battle for funding within mainstream schooling is bad enough, and I know of many who have had to battle so so hard to get specialist education.It's absolutely a ball ache. With respect to the OP, the system caters to the middle. It has to. These, with good teaching, can be pushed up a grade or 2, the academic types will always do well within the framework and therefore don't 'need' additional encouragement because they will get higher SATS grades regardless, and additional needs will always give the (overly pressed) teacher a headache. Largely because there are 30+ children to manage already.

eightxmaspaws · 01/03/2021 19:40

@doubleshotespresso You sound very wounded. I'm not back pedalling. Maybe inadvisable to post insulting name calling and personal insults. It's all a bit immature.
I do not believe that life is in any way 'fair' : it holds a great deal of injustice. From one of your posts, it's quite clear you've had many many struggles with the education system. Trying to do the best that you can to achieve the maximum benefit for your child. I still don't retract my posts however.

twelly · 01/03/2021 19:55

Funding is an issue , of course in an ideal world there would be full time TAs for everyone who would benefit but there simply isn't enough money. My point about revisiting provision is so that both SEN pupils can be be best served to allow them to progress without holding back other pupils . The huge ability mix created more and more problems as children become older and the gaps becomes bigger, closing the gap is I know an objective, however closing the gap means funds are directed to serve that goal rather than aiming at ensuring all pupils reach their potential

Botanicals · 01/03/2021 19:56

And she is still here, spouting her nasty, disablist, ignorant drivel...

eightxmaspaws · 01/03/2021 20:26

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MNWorldisCrazy · 01/03/2021 20:33

@Drivingmecrazy2021

I think you lost the thread as soon as your put learning difficulties in the same category as naughty children.
My child has Autism but she's still VERY VERY capable of being just plain naughty Hmm
Botanicals · 01/03/2021 20:45

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eightxmaspaws · 01/03/2021 20:59

@Botanicals it's entirely up to you, if all you want to do is spout vitriol and personal attacks.

doubleshotespresso · 01/03/2021 21:08

[quote eightxmaspaws]@Botanicals it's entirely up to you, if all you want to do is spout vitriol and personal attacks.[/quote]
You appear to have covered that one nicely all on your own.
Well done you

doubleshotespresso · 01/03/2021 21:09

[quote eightxmaspaws]@doubleshotespresso You sound very wounded. I'm not back pedalling. Maybe inadvisable to post insulting name calling and personal insults. It's all a bit immature.
I do not believe that life is in any way 'fair' : it holds a great deal of injustice. From one of your posts, it's quite clear you've had many many struggles with the education system. Trying to do the best that you can to achieve the maximum benefit for your child. I still don't retract my posts however.[/quote]
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