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AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 26/02/2021 09:54

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

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Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 11:57

@OldRailer

Harry's idea of fun was dressing up as a nazi. I can't get past that tbh.
That was stupid, but we've all done stupid stuff in our youth. It was 16 years ago so I think you could maybe move past it now.
the80sweregreat · 26/02/2021 11:57

If his life before was so ' toxic' then why did he tell the nation during his engagement interview that Meghan was now part of the family ? The family she never had or something he said?
Why subject her to his toxic life if it was so terrible?

justab0utsurviving · 26/02/2021 11:59

Previous poster said they were sick of being chased around by the press - actually in tbe Uk the press don't chase the royals around anymore at all. Hardly ever see any random paparazzi photo of William or kate or their kids. I don't remember ever seeing paparazzi photos of Meghan and Harry. There was some shit stories running but they were feeding off the family feud and court cases. Without all of that drama they wouldn't have had a lot to write about Meghan. And then I think , from my perspective the problem was that she came across a bit odd with some of her actions - I remember seeing her at an event in the papers and her outfit included a jacket that sat on her shoulders and I just remember thinking - how impractical for meeting people. The inspirational messages on the bananas was odd and then the constant belly touching as if she was the first person ever to get pregnant. These were mild irritations.
But now the problem is that just because she married a prince , and just because he was born into the royal family , they think they have something to say that we all really want to hear. That somehow getting to married to someone automatically elevates your knowledge, experience, wisdom that must be shared with the world. I liked her in suits but marrying Harry doesn't make her automatically someone who I want to watch speak on motherhood or any other random topic that they will be addressing through their podcasts or Netflix. She isn't any more qualified than I am and that is what pisses people off. It is literally the height of nepotism

Roussette · 26/02/2021 11:59

The most tone deaf member is the one who spent years palling around with trafficked teenagers and a convicted paedophile. The second most tone deaf are a tie among those who protected him

^^ This.

I loved the James Corden bus pool. I thought he came across natural and nice. Well done to him, it was a fun interview. The detractors will hate it of course, but that's the norm. They can't do one single thing to please some people. If they were to go completely silent, the criticism never stops.

I remember when there was a 6 week,2month or so silence and they had moved quietly without telling anyone. Those that dislike them so much were just scratching around trying to find something in the media, so that they could criticise them. It never stops. It's become a nasty habit for some. So give over with the 'just keep quiet' posts about them. How about, just stop looking and ignore them if you feel so strongly.

For instance, I am not a fan of Gordon Ramsey. I have purposely avoided his game show this week and I haven't posted about him. (until now). See?
It's easy if you want to enough. You don't. It's a modus operandi and a habit you can't break

OldRailer · 26/02/2021 11:59

It seems they have lots of fans on here, so that bodes well for their commercial future!

Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 12:01

There was 2 threads running yesterday about Gordon Ramsay/and his quiz show. Nobody seemed bothered by the slagging he was getting

I only saw the one, but don't think the grief he got over his terrible quiz show was anything like what H&M have had said about them.

GreenlandTheMovie · 26/02/2021 12:02

Harry's not a nice man at all. He has treated people very badly in the past. Either people who can't speak out (army or people in his social circle) or people so low in their society that they wouldn't be listened to.

Complete hypocrite pretending to be caring.

Runwithtorches · 26/02/2021 12:02

[As a complete aside LyingWitchInTheWardrobe - thank you - I know that poem well, my late father used to recite it to me, but I didn't know who it was by until you posted just now!]

Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 12:02

@OldRailer

It seems they have lots of fans on here, so that bodes well for their commercial future!
Was waiting for a post like this. There's a middle ground believe it or not, I am not one of those people who camps out in the street getting interviewed by Kay Burley before a royal wedding. Grin
OldRailer · 26/02/2021 12:02

I just cannot imagine anyone in my family or circle of friends thinking "I know what I'll do for a laugh.."

So no, it's not something I shrug off. It's very odd.

Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 12:03

@OldRailer

I just cannot imagine anyone in my family or circle of friends thinking "I know what I'll do for a laugh.."

So no, it's not something I shrug off. It's very odd.

You need to carry on holding it against him in that case...
Abraxan · 26/02/2021 12:06

The subject is unavoidable, you can't scroll down a news website without the story coming up numerous times.

I rarely see much about them unless in Mumsnet tbh. I don't actively avoid stories. I have no issue with the couple or their stance.

And I've no reason to dislike them - I don't know them and I am unlikely to ever know them or meet them.

They have to be allowed to make a living surely. Because of their well known status it's not like they can find some anonymous role. And Meghan is an actor by profession so it makes total sense she'd be looking at those kind of roles. Don't most people tend to stick to the job they know and have trained for? 🤷‍♀️

I've just taken a look at the BBC News app and there is nothing about them in their front page or as I scrolled down. I'd imagine certain types of news sites that focus in this kind of celebrity stuff, such as the DM probably have them and other celebs on their home page I guess. It's not a news site I use though so easily avoidable.

It's not even trending on my Twitter account or anything either.

I have just googled the JC and PH thing and it did come up when I searched. Before this thread I didn't know it existed however.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 26/02/2021 12:09

@BashfulClam

I haven’t watched anything about Harry in ages so it is easily avoided. I also despise Janes Corden, shouting all the time and making an utter Fanny of himself just annoys me.
I think, along with the disappearances of Shergar and Lord Lucan, the popularity of James accorded will remain one of the greatest mysteries of our time.
beguilingeyes · 26/02/2021 12:09

And yet there's Prince Andrew....

Roussette · 26/02/2021 12:10

from my perspective the problem was that she came across a bit odd with some of her actions - I remember seeing her at an event in the papers and her outfit included a jacket that sat on her shoulders and I just remember thinking - how impractical for meeting people

Good grief Shock Was it OK for Melania Trump to wear a jacket on her shoulders then? She wore that style all the time.
We've come full circle on the touching her belly too. A pregnancy woman can do what they want with their pregnant belly. You couldn't make it up. It's pathetic.

A friend of mine knows someone involved at the charity with the bananas. They loved it.

Abraxan · 26/02/2021 12:10

Isn’t he no longer a member of the Royal Family? Or at least RF PLC

I think people forget this last bit and believe the first part is true too.

He isn't out of the family.
He was born a royal and hasn't been outcast from his family.
He's just moved out, moved home elsewhere and decided to no longer be an active serving member of the RF.
He just isn't part of the family business.

Simply due to being born he is part of the royal family and always will be. Regardless of what he did/does in the future that will always be the case.

Roussette · 26/02/2021 12:11

Harry's not a nice man at all. He has treated people very badly in the past. Either people who can't speak out (army or people in his social circle) or people so low in their society that they wouldn't be listened to

Could you expand on that? With a source maybe?

the80sweregreat · 26/02/2021 12:15

I'm intrigued now as to what he has done in the past to be horrible?
I'm not keen on either of them , but I can't imagine the Army putting up with him bullying anyone? I'm sure this would have come up before now in the press as well ?
He was liked a lot at one time.

Roussette · 26/02/2021 12:15

Was waiting for a post like this. There's a middle ground believe it or not, I am not one of those people who camps out in the street getting interviewed by Kay Burley before a royal wedding
😂😂And I don't own a royal tea towel or teapot

Abraxan Exactly! It's only out there if you really want to go looking. All this nonsense about it's everwhere, you can't avoid it, is BS

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 26/02/2021 12:18

I'm sure I read that they made their aides' lives hell when they were working Royals? Not necessarily being nasty but having a brain wave over dinner and the next morning expecting someone to magically make it happen. They had a very high turnover of personal staff in their short time as working Royals which is a bit of a red flag

Roussette · 26/02/2021 12:20

I think that is the Daily Mail with their nonsense.

OhWhyNot · 26/02/2021 12:20

Oh yes Prince Andrew has far more self awareness Hmm

Like his mother he has been absolutely hounded by the press and so has Megan

We only have to read on here to see the racist undertones of the comments some have even made remarks on their baby Hmm

Wish them the best of luck. He will never live a completely free life but I truly hope that can make a happier life for themselves

derxa · 26/02/2021 12:21

Harry and Meghan seem to love each other and they are building a lovely life for themselves and their family. All good. I wish them well.
However I'm old enough to be their mother and find the preaching a bit hard to take. They're entertaining me in lockdown though so they have provided a very valuable service. Not Jonathan Van Tam levels of service sadly.
People saying what about Andrew. He's always been a horrible individual but nothing new has emerged about his behaviour re Jeffrey Epstein. Whereas Harry and Meghan pop up every week with something new.

TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 12:21

I'm sure I read that they made their aides' lives hell when they were working Royals

Who provided that information? 'A source' I bet.

They had a very high turnover of personal staff in their short time as working Royals which is a bit of a red flag

That was debunked. Most of the people in question had already announced their intention of leaving before being assigned to H&M.

dudsville · 26/02/2021 12:22

I don't watch shows like the Corden one, don't read magazines or follow famous people, but because of this thread I googled Harry on Cordon's show. I thought it was cute.