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AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 26/02/2021 09:54

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

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Travis1 · 27/02/2021 19:41

I’ll never understand all the vitriol towards Harry & Meghan but people are perfectly happy for the fact that Andrew is a pedophile to be swept under the rug. All because Meghans black, because let’s not kid ourselves on here, that is the biggest issue.

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 27/02/2021 19:43

@NurseButtercup

I looked up the interview to see what all the fuss is about and quelle surprise, it's the usual run of the mill, James Corden style light hearted interview.

Prince Harry didn't say anything offensive, but yet the level of anger, pearl clutching &
indignant outrage expressed by some posters is ridiculous. Honestly some of you really need to give your head a wobble and have a word with yourself.

Of course he did. He breached the Queen's privacy by telling the whole world she gifted Archie a waffle maker at Christmas. Or some such heinous crime.Grin

Btw as much as I enjoyed it, I call bollocks on Archie's first word being crocodile. He should've stuck with waffle . Grin

HeddaGarbled · 27/02/2021 19:45

As far as I know, Andrew isn’t a paedophile.

People are not happy for his behaviour to be “swept under the rug”.

isitspringyet · 27/02/2021 19:46

So was William bullying Harry’s wife? Love the unfounded accusations that are permitted and unchallenged by the usual defenders of ‘truth’ brigade that are sharp in their response of H&M!

PicsInRed · 27/02/2021 19:53

@isitspringyet

Wow hadn’t heard about Williams bullying Harrys wife. Source would be good!
Iirc, it was suggested at the time that nasty stories about Megan were strategically timed to take attention away from rumours of Wills cheating and his marriage woes. Anyone remember the video of Kate flinching from Willo's touch? That was around the time of Rose Hanbury.

I guess he wanted better than the scapegoat role for his wife and kids.

isitspringyet · 27/02/2021 19:55

Total speculation. On a forum for being blasted on speculating....

Coconutmeg · 27/02/2021 19:56

Just hahahahaha at actor Damian Lewis an adult with credibility and integrity playing him.
It goes to show how delusional he is.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2021 20:09

Damien Lewis way too old, unless the movie is set in the future...

Lookingforwardto2021 · 27/02/2021 20:19

I watched the last bits on the track. H is fit and it was lighthearted fun.

Don’t get the angst... 🤷‍♀️

CathyorClaire · 27/02/2021 20:21

@AngelicaElizaAndPeggy

Guys!!! Look at yourselves, honestly!!!

It's Saturday, it's a beautiful sunny afternoon and you're all sat here moaning about whether Brighton is London. Next you'll be arguing about whether up is down, in is out, will is kate or Archie is a waffle. Don't you all have anything more positive or worthwhile to be doing!?

I came back here to see if anyone had responded to my list about the charity work that Harry and Meghan have done. No-one's bothered so I'm off outside again with a cup of tea to avoid thinking about two perfectly happy people living their lives in some disputed part of the LA municipal area. You all should too!!!

I came back here to see if anyone had responded to my list about the charity work that Harry and Meghan have done.

Before we cheer lead on that it'd be quite nice to have some clarity on whether the funds donated from the Royal Foundation to Sussex Royal and Travalyst have been spent and if so, how.

Roussette · 27/02/2021 20:26

Cathy

Digging deep there... here is a statement from a paper that normally bashes them
"Both the Charity Commission's own statement today, as well as that of the Royal Foundation, state there is no determination of wrongdoing here.

"All of the Duke's charitable activities are fully transparent as well as compliant with Charity Commission guidelines, and moreover with his own moral compass."

CathyorClaire · 27/02/2021 20:26

@Travis1

I’ll never understand all the vitriol towards Harry & Meghan but people are perfectly happy for the fact that Andrew is a pedophile to be swept under the rug. All because Meghans black, because let’s not kid ourselves on here, that is the biggest issue.
No-one is happy for his behaviour to be swept under the rug but given there appears to be nothing new being reported at present everything that can be said to date has been.
Roussette · 27/02/2021 20:31

Well... it might all be said as far as you're concerned. Not for me.

There are a lot of question marks about him and how he has been given a pass by the Queen

Gobsmacking he keeps his military honours and patronages and Harry was stripped of his.

And then there's the security cost... £300,000 per annum, 24 hour protection from 3 protection officers. H&M pay for theirs. OK fair enough they are not in the UK but still

And his chalet on sale for £18.5 million, would be interesting to hear where that money came from mixing with ME billionaires whilst a UK trade envoy

And so on...

CathyorClaire · 27/02/2021 20:39

@Roussette

Cathy

Digging deep there... here is a statement from a paper that normally bashes them
"Both the Charity Commission's own statement today, as well as that of the Royal Foundation, state there is no determination of wrongdoing here.

"All of the Duke's charitable activities are fully transparent as well as compliant with Charity Commission guidelines, and moreover with his own moral compass."

The funds were split between Sussex Royal and Travalyst with the SR funds seemingly transferred to Travalyst when it was wound up. Recent article:

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1391526/prince-harry-news-travalyst-charity-sussex-royal-meghan-markle-royal-family-spt

Travalyst isn't a charity and in any case its stated aims don't coincide with the stated charitable aims of the original Royal Foundation. All a bit murky, really.

Roussette · 27/02/2021 20:45

Not half as murky as Andrew

Look at his Wikipedia page under 'Libya connections' and 'corruption and Kazaksthan'

You'll find it an eye opener and comparing Harry is pretty amazing given the CC investigated and no problem.

Lookingforwardto2021 · 27/02/2021 20:45

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. Some people should be ashamed of themselves.

There is a lot of fudging of accounts in the RF and very openly with someone them.

I think M&H are probably more honest and transparent as compared to the work-shy lot in that family.

When people are bullied, often they are accused of doing the opposite of what they are doing. Eg if someone is soft spoken, they are called aggressive as a way of justifying the bullying. It is classic gaslighting. And you can see a lot of it here. Really quite unpleasant

CathyorClaire · 27/02/2021 20:46

@Roussette

Well... it might all be said as far as you're concerned. Not for me.

There are a lot of question marks about him and how he has been given a pass by the Queen

Gobsmacking he keeps his military honours and patronages and Harry was stripped of his.

And then there's the security cost... £300,000 per annum, 24 hour protection from 3 protection officers. H&M pay for theirs. OK fair enough they are not in the UK but still

And his chalet on sale for £18.5 million, would be interesting to hear where that money came from mixing with ME billionaires whilst a UK trade envoy

And so on...

I was responding to the bit about the allegations into his association with Epstein but yes, going wider it's another PR own goal for the royals although I think a lot of his charities are ditching him as a patron anyway. Questions about his income sources have been raised in the past but I suppose now he has the freedom to skulk in more shadowy palaces than we can shake a stick at he's managing to dodge the spotlight.
CathyorClaire · 27/02/2021 20:50

I think M&H are probably more honest and transparent as compared to the work-shy lot in that family.

In that case perhaps you can provide links to show what's happened to the RF grants and donations. I must have missed them.

Roussette · 27/02/2021 20:51

Absolutely Cathy

Very unfair. Given the stick M&H receive.

Yes, Andrew has been forced to ditch his charities many golf associations all over the world to name but a few BUT he keeps his military titles and honours.
Yet Harry has been stripped of all of his, the man who set up Invictus..
You couldn't make it up

Roussette · 27/02/2021 20:53

In that case perhaps you can provide links to show what's happened to the RF grants and donations

Do you want to know the same about Andrew?
Why M&H?

I have linked one article and there is a lot out there saying there was nothing untoward.

Lookingforwardto2021 · 27/02/2021 20:59

I have no idea Cath. ALL royal family accounts are opaque and deliberately so.

These two have moved away and are funding themselves, instead of living off taxpayers. And Meghan has a history of charitable work before she met Harry. Of the RF lot, these two have gumption and initiative. Cue - sly innuendoes and insinuations from the bullying lot

Lookingforwardto2021 · 27/02/2021 21:01

@Roussette

In that case perhaps you can provide links to show what's happened to the RF grants and donations

Do you want to know the same about Andrew?
Why M&H?

I have linked one article and there is a lot out there saying there was nothing untoward.

And yes. I don’t care about anyone in the Rf, and I am a republican. But more than anything, I hate bullying and the whispering insinuations that bullies use
Roussette · 27/02/2021 21:02

Exactly Looking
Ditto

CathyorClaire · 27/02/2021 21:12

@Roussette

In that case perhaps you can provide links to show what's happened to the RF grants and donations

Do you want to know the same about Andrew?
Why M&H?

I have linked one article and there is a lot out there saying there was nothing untoward.

Why M&H?

'Cos that's who the thread's about. Andrew's shady dealings are well documented and I'd be happy to talk about them (among royal others) on a general royal wrong 'uns thread but this isn't one.

Anyway. It now appears enquiries are ongoing which is heartening to see:

www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-prince-william-charities-scrutinized-over-funds-transfer-1561169

Samcro · 27/02/2021 21:13

It seems like some people can't stand PA being mentioned.
Because he has actually done something wrong.
HaM have not, they just didn't want to be come stepford royals.

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