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AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 26/02/2021 09:54

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

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ImAncient · 27/02/2021 18:21

Oh for goodness sake. Mental health can strike anyone. Regardless of age, success, wealth or health. No one knows the struggles someone else goes through.

lightand · 27/02/2021 18:23

People ALSO want them to support themselves now and not rely on funding from Charlie so clearly they're going to have to have some kind of public profile, just one they control

Why? They could become a window cleaner and stay at home parents. I actually naively thought that when they said they wanted to earn money privately, they meant just that. They could quite easily stay away from the press and earn private money.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2021 18:25

I used the word 'haters' meaning people constantly insulting and criticising but wished there was a different word. 'Non fans'? 'Criticisers?' No idea. So haters it was.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 27/02/2021 18:25

'Oh for goodness sake. Mental health can strike anyone. Regardless of age, success, wealth or health. No one knows the struggles someone else goes through.'

Yes, so again why doesn't H show some consideration about the effect his petulant comments and chat show appearances will be having on the mental health of his family? He seems to have no self awareness whatsoever.

TheFairyCaravan · 27/02/2021 18:28

Bet Thomas Markle isn't full of beans either, won't someone think of his mental health.

I’ve got mixed feelings about Thomas Markle. I think the —Daily Mail— press have manipulated the fuck out of him rapidly egged on by Samantha Markle. All they can see is dollar signs. His mental health is probably terrible, too however I can’t ever see Meghan offering him an olive branch in the very near future and I can’t blame her.

Shitonthebloodything · 27/02/2021 18:28

I liked the interview and I really like him. I'm neither here nor there on Meghan to be honest. They seem happy and in love. They do more for charity than most, I couldn't get annoyed about them if I tried to be honest. I don't understand the anger towards them at all.

PicsInRed · 27/02/2021 18:31

Hs2 will take Mancunians into London in 1hr 7mins.

North London innit.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2021 18:32

Oh are we back to distance between cities in England again? Grin

Hawkins001 · 27/02/2021 18:32

Everything Harry is doing, I'm guessing would be all planned and scripted by various teams he has, advising for different activities, project's and reasons. Yes the press may spin the stories one way or another. But other than that id guess every detail has been planned and managed.

Runwithtorches · 27/02/2021 18:35

Yes to everyone of whatever class or level of wealth being potentially affected by mh issues but if you are comfortably off, it can mitigate the effects somewhat. For example, you can afford the best health care and you can take time off work and can afford perhaps to take a holiday or afford to fund a change of job or lifestyle , through study or moving to a different part of the country. Sometimes being able to not work is a bad thing as you are not forced to keep going. Sometimes with illness such as psychosis brought on by stress or burnout, it's a bad thing. So it depends on the individual, and if you are depressed and and IOUs you are depressed and anxious, but if you

CSIblonde · 27/02/2021 18:35

I think it's got to the point where anything from the Queen or her advisers just sets him off. He's got tunnel vision, wants it all his own way & isn't getting the totally non royal bit of stepping back. I don't think you can legally remove the HRH of a born , 'blood' Prince. But someone legal would know.

Runwithtorches · 27/02/2021 18:37

Posted too soon.

If you are wealthy and depressed and anxious , then you are still depressed and anxious, but you may have more choices as to how to try and recover.

Lampzade · 27/02/2021 18:40

YADBU and this topic is played out and boring
Leave this couple alone FFS

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2021 18:42

@Runwithtorches

Posted too soon.

If you are wealthy and depressed and anxious , then you are still depressed and anxious, but you may have more choices as to how to try and recover.

I agree to a point. But you only have to look at people in the public eye that have had MH issues and some who went on to take their own lives it's not always that simple. You have to want to recover, and sometimes there's the point of no return no matter how wealthy they are.

As you say though it's all very individual.

studychick81 · 27/02/2021 18:46

@Drivingmecrazy2021

I think not matter how much money you have there are aspects of life that will be hard for you and just because you may be privileged in one area does not mean you don’t have difficulties. I am not surprised one bit they decided to leave the U.K. They know they will Never met privacy that’s a given, at least they control some of it. I remember being absolutely shocked that when Archie was born people were absolutely horrible at the fact she didn’t want to stand outside as soon as baby was born for press or people think it was ok for Kate. Things were said like “ we deserve to see the baby it’s apart of our royal family “ like we owned the right.
We pay for them, we pay for their lifestyle. I personally really don't care if she had photos done of the baby or not but I imagine some people think that means that they should do a photoshoot to introduce the baby, it's part of their royal duty. I can see why. If they want to continue with the public paying for them and buying into the royal family for them to survive they need to give something back.

I think ultimately that's one reason why they left. The role did involve them having to do things like this which they didn't want to do. But it became apparent that because of this they couldn't expect to live off the royal purse. It's the pay off for all their privileges and to keep them relevant.

PurpleCrocuses · 27/02/2021 18:54

Anyone screaming that a woman who gave birth only hours earlier must stand on a concrete step in the cold and pose for hoards of paparazzi is fucking deranged. Kate shouldn't have had to do it and it's great that Meghan wasn't forced to.

Besides they don't actually care, it's just another weapon to attack her with. If Meghan had done the steps she would have been attacked just as much for "copying Kate" and there would have been hundreds of comments about her not knowing her place and "who does she think she is she's just a minor royal."

When Harry and Meghan did pose with Archie which was only a few days after he was born the posters screaming that they were entitled to shove their heads inside her vagina and how dare Meghan deny them access to THEIR baby instantly changed track and started screaming that Meghan was being an uppity attention seeker and how dare she shove photos of her unimportant child in their faces.

There's literally nothing Meghan can do that they won't twist as a way to attack her. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

PurpleCrocuses · 27/02/2021 18:59

Yes, so again why doesn't H show some consideration about the effect his petulant comments and chat show appearances will be having on the mental health of his family? He seems to have no self awareness whatsoever.

William certainly didn't consider Harry's mental health when he was bullying Harry's wife and selling them out to the press, at the same time as pretending to be a great MH advocate.

Not a fan of either of them but petulant cheating rage monster William is a thousand times worse than Harry. He can't even treat his own wife with respect.

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 27/02/2021 18:59

@PurpleCrocuses

Anyone screaming that a woman who gave birth only hours earlier must stand on a concrete step in the cold and pose for hoards of paparazzi is fucking deranged. Kate shouldn't have had to do it and it's great that Meghan wasn't forced to.

Besides they don't actually care, it's just another weapon to attack her with. If Meghan had done the steps she would have been attacked just as much for "copying Kate" and there would have been hundreds of comments about her not knowing her place and "who does she think she is she's just a minor royal."

When Harry and Meghan did pose with Archie which was only a few days after he was born the posters screaming that they were entitled to shove their heads inside her vagina and how dare Meghan deny them access to THEIR baby instantly changed track and started screaming that Meghan was being an uppity attention seeker and how dare she shove photos of her unimportant child in their faces.

There's literally nothing Meghan can do that they won't twist as a way to attack her. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Did anyone scream and was Kate actually forced? Hmm

Does anyone care about anyone in the royal family that much? It’s all sounds very hysterical.

TheFairyCaravan · 27/02/2021 19:01

I imagine some people think that means that they should do a photoshoot to introduce the baby, it's part of their royal duty.

They did! They did it with The Queen, Prince Phillip and Doria.

BasiliskStare · 27/02/2021 19:02

Oh I do not believe Harry's mother was murdered - a tragic accident - and I very much feel sorry for both boys. Where I slightly differ from Harry and Meghan is that what they seem to be doing is philanthropy in the way they want to do it rather than serve. I think those two could have done so much service which would have done so much for so many - but they chose not to. Well , their choice. Good luck to them - shan't lose sleep over it.

ElspethFlashman · 27/02/2021 19:05

@Hawkins001

Everything Harry is doing, I'm guessing would be all planned and scripted by various teams he has, advising for different activities, project's and reasons. Yes the press may spin the stories one way or another. But other than that id guess every detail has been planned and managed.
Yes, someone mentioned to me that JC would have discussed with H&M and their PR team: "topics to stay away from and topics to raise". That's entirely customary for any interview.

The interesting thing was that William seems to have been a topic to avoid whereas The Crown was given a green light. And whether this is because of the Netflix deal and their PR advisers wanting them to make clear they aren't going to be negative about one of Netflix's most successful shows.

SarahLox77 · 27/02/2021 19:09

I loved the James Corden interview. Driving Harry & Meghan away is a huge mistake for the RF (if that's really what's happened?)

kirinm · 27/02/2021 19:12

@TakeTheCuntOutOfScunthorpe

If he annoys you so much just don't watch/read anything about him, I personally wish him and his family well

It's difficult when he's all over the news all the time. You can't avoid him. You have to read a headline or see a picture to know what the subject is about. A Nathan Barley style "there will be two columns, one better than the other, and you only read the good one" system doesn't work in real life.

I personally wish him and his family no specific harm.

I have managed to avoid watching it reading anything about them. It isn't difficult and all those who claim he's everywhere need to either change what you read or turn the TV off.
isitspringyet · 27/02/2021 19:34

Wow hadn’t heard about Williams bullying Harrys wife. Source would be good!

NurseButtercup · 27/02/2021 19:40

I looked up the interview to see what all the fuss is about and quelle surprise, it's the usual run of the mill, James Corden style light hearted interview.

Prince Harry didn't say anything offensive, but yet the level of anger, pearl clutching &
indignant outrage expressed by some posters is ridiculous. Honestly some of you really need to give your head a wobble and have a word with yourself.