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AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 26/02/2021 09:54

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

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wewillmeetagain · 26/02/2021 20:48

@minou123 ok point taken. However the vast majority of the time they say and do absolutely nothing and it eventually goes away.

studychick81 · 26/02/2021 20:50

@Roussette

t also irritates me how he goes on about the environment and we must all do our bit, we re only having two children etc but the jets around on holidays etc in private jets. They don't seem to get this

W&K do this too by the way. Just so you know.

Helicopter rides for a date night etc etc

Yes but they don't preach about the environment on the other side- this is the bit that Irritates people. Not so much the private helicopters etc.

They also don't moan about the bad press whilst courting the press for their own means and inviting publicity for charities and things like the invictus games. The press were horrible about Kate at the beginning but they didn't moan about lack of privacy and then so loads of interviews. Kate and wills accept the bad press along with the good press.

ElspethFlashman · 26/02/2021 20:51

There also doesn't seem to be a sense that Harry is going to spend the rest of his life in America.

I mean, this is it. This is the rest of his life. He won't be moving back. He won't be spending any real time in the UK ever again. Oh I'm sure he'll go back to visit his friends a couple of times a year but that's it. He's going to live the rest of his days in LA. He will have LA children. It's not like the Beckhams where they lived there for a few years and then decided to return to their stately pile in dear old England.

WinnieTheW0rm · 26/02/2021 20:54

@Roussette

I think the spotlight needs to stay in Andrew and his odious behaviour and the fact the Royal Family are protecting him

I wish!

I'm derided every time I mention him!

Only when you do so on a thread aboutnother royals, where it id often seen as a derailment. They're not active right now, but there have been plenty of Prince Andrew threads from the time of That Interview and the various other times the Epstein/Maxwell issues have renewed attention
Roussette · 26/02/2021 20:55

The RF manipulate the press big time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.
The RF are not communicative unless it is on their terms. The press feed us a diet of royal family whether we like it or not.

There was deference to the RF back in the day because of the fear of upsetting the establishment.

Those days are gone.

Roussette · 26/02/2021 20:58

Winnie No. Not at all

Threads about him are few and far between compared to M&H.

I only point it out when someone says 'but what about...' and I say 'Andrew did that' or worse.
That is fair enough

whatintheheck · 26/02/2021 20:58

I have no real interest in him. I thought the move was for more privacy? It seems not!

studychick81 · 26/02/2021 20:59

@Roussette

The RF manipulate the press big time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. The RF are not communicative unless it is on their terms. The press feed us a diet of royal family whether we like it or not. There was deference to the RF back in the day because of the fear of upsetting the establishment.

Those days are gone.

They do, but the difference is they understand in doing that they take the rough with the smooth. Bad press is accepted, unless it goes outside the law, and is generally ignored. They don't moan about lack of privacy, they are saying xyz about me, whilst leaking ab and c. They generally stay quite about issues and don't preach to others about what they should and shouldn't be doing.
stevalnamechanger · 26/02/2021 21:01

The James Corden interview was great! He came across like a real person . Not a robot constantly having to hold back!

Can't wait to see more of him

CathyorClaire · 26/02/2021 21:04

@StoneofDestiny

I think the spotlight needs to stay in Andrew and his odious behaviour and the fact the Royal Family are protecting him.
This is very true especially as he is apparently plotting a comeback and appeared to be flying kites to that end being photographed packing cupcakes for NHS workers during lockdown but I'm more than happy for multiple spotlights to shine on instances of poor royal behaviour from any of them.
Roussette · 26/02/2021 21:05

study I don't consider what M&H do 'preaching'. If I didn't want to listen, it would be very easy to avoid!

minou123 · 26/02/2021 21:06

[quote wewillmeetagain]@minou123 ok point taken. However the vast majority of the time they say and do absolutely nothing and it eventually goes away. [/quote]
Sorry to come back, but I only wrote a snippet.

The Queen has sued The Sun a number of times over the years, I just didn't list all of them.

I havent even listed all the Royal Family members, including Philip who sued a newspaper.
Nor have a included the successful civil suit Charles, William and Harry brought (and criminal prosecution) against the News Of The World phone hacking.

So, I don't think the vast majority of the time they do nothing. They always do something, either sue or stop speaking to you.

imyournextdoorneighbour · 26/02/2021 21:07

@PicsInRed

Prince Harry married a Black woman.

People racists who like to think they're not got angry.

The end.

If it had not been so widely reported I genuinely would not have known she was HALF black. I knew it wouldn't end well because she was an older, divorced (twice??) American woman - American divorcees and royalty don't seem to be a good mix. I really wish the media would just stop reporting about them. Sorted.
hotpotlover · 26/02/2021 21:09

I like Harry and Meghan and can understand why they left. I also liked Harry's interview, he came across well and a few bits made me chuckle.

CathyorClaire · 26/02/2021 21:09

Yes but they don't preach about the environment on the other side- this is the bit that Irritates people. Not so much the private helicopters etc

Co-opting an RAF helicopter for date night has always irritated me and that's before we start on the laziness and smuggery.

AuntieStella · 26/02/2021 21:17

@Roussette

study I don't consider what M&H do 'preaching'. If I didn't want to listen, it would be very easy to avoid!
Not really. I'm pretty uninterested, but BBC were carrying stuff about interview on several channels this morning. And I have enough to do before lessons start without channel hopping or turning sound up and down
Roussette · 26/02/2021 21:24

{shock] I move from channel to channel very easily.

OldRailer · 26/02/2021 21:30

It really had been quite hard to avoid him today on BBC and commercial stations. Even sticking to normal news and avoiding Lorraine human interest type programming.

We haven't had to seek him out at all.

Roussette · 26/02/2021 21:35

Complain to the news channels maybe?

It's news.

There is much of it that is repetitive and boring on and on every day, I just switch channels. This is one day

OldRailer · 26/02/2021 21:41

No I'm not planning to complain to 5 different news orgs. I'm merely telling the group of postetd on here who claim to know other are making this up and we must be obsessively clicking links about this man.

Samcro · 26/02/2021 21:49

Did the op ever come back?
I saw the bus thing on the news, thought harry came across well, said that on the other thread.

WhereverIlaymyhat2021 · 26/02/2021 22:11

I do feel the press have behaved appallingly towards him and Meghan. And they did not deserve that regardless.

However I do not think he comes across well at all and l’ve always thought he has a terribly entitled attitude and air of arrogance which his brother say doesn’t have.

I’ve also read some excerpts from the finding freedom book, one I had to fact check as I couldn’t believe how bad it was. They were totally taking down a former employee, which I felt was in terrible and I’m not sure about the legalities of it given the employee wasn’t sacked. It was the type of thing my DH would call a c*nts trick. This has further reinforced that I don’t think either of them are particularly nice people.

BlushingBrightly · 26/02/2021 22:21

Harry has done better in this solo appearance than for some time, it must be said. He has definitely seemed like a more relaxed character.

The problems it won't clear up, though, are the ones that have appeared on this thread: People perceive him going on TV or whatever media space and talking about his personal life as hypocritical in relation to his apparent need for privacy. Harry fans can say till they're blue in the face that he never said that, it's about consent and choice and so on, but it's evident that this keeps coming up as a sticking point for many people who otherwise don't care much one way or the other. Continued regular media exposure seems to be something they're pursuing to set up these new lives they want but it's also harming their image in exactly the way they seem to bridle at.

The other point that keeps coming up is that for people who have found freedom, escaped the toxicity, blah blah blah, they don't half keep banging on about it and harking back to the bad old days. This does rather get in the way of their apparent joy at being free and living their best lives. Again, whatever justifications are made for this, it's seen as odd and suspicious by a lot of people. They would really do well to just hush up about the royals. However, with 90 minutes of Oprah time to fill, that seems unlikely.

GreenlandTheMovie · 26/02/2021 22:46

[quote thetell]@GreenlandTheMovie Did your friends tell you how they are managing Prince Andrew's car crash life at the moment? Or how they managed to turn around public opinion about Prince Phillip's racism and sexism? What about when Kate refused to give her right hand woman part time work after maternity leave despite liking to come across as 'a mum like the rest of us'- that ended up in a quiet financial settlement and a smooth PR job. What about William's affair?
Come on - every single one of us have needed a PR person in our life at some point, we are all human, we grow, we change - just most of us don't have to do it in the public eye.[/quote]
Totally different age groups, so no. Except for Kate, obviously. But no real bad stories by comparison.

PieInTheSky71 · 26/02/2021 22:48

I really like him. He seems very normal, genuine and down to earth. He also seemed relaxed and happy. I think if his Mum was alive now she'd be very proud of him for walking away and doing his own thing. It must have been a difficult thing to go against the establishment.