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AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 26/02/2021 09:54

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

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Roussette · 26/02/2021 17:56

I found the whole James Cordon thing utterly cringe worthy and not something to expect from the royal family even if they leave it

I'm sorry but... having endured 'Royal It's a Knockout' with every member of the RF apart from the Queen, dressed up looking ridiculous, jumping around and acting the fool, that comment is pretty obsolete to me. Now that was cringe.
The JC thing was fun and amusing

justab0utsurviving · 26/02/2021 17:57

I never said it was distasteful or anything like that - talk about drama - I said it was mildly irritating- people just don't stand like this :

AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?
TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 17:57

And rightly or wrongly , that sort of behaviour conjures up images of someone high maintenance who is hard work

More accurately ‘I dislike her for reasons I don’t umderstand/can’t admit to and am actively looking out for reasons, however tenuous, to explain myself’.

TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 17:59

people just don't stand like this

I’ve stood like that. Who put you in charge of bump touching etiquette got pregnant women?

MuddleMoo · 26/02/2021 17:59

@justab0utsurviving

I never said it was distasteful or anything like that - talk about drama - I said it was mildly irritating- people just don't stand like this :
she was in an evening gown being looked at she is bound to feel protective. It really is mean to criticise someone for holding their baby bump!
TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 17:59

For not got

GetOffYourHighHorse · 26/02/2021 17:59

'Kate literally deferred her uni place and uni choice to specifically seek out William. She literally did nothing for 10 years waiting for him to propose'

Y'see, I can't quite take comments like this seriously.

So some people can't have an opinion on chat show Harry but you can make stuff up about Kate. Riiiiiight.

GreenScene · 26/02/2021 18:01

@Roussette

I found the whole James Cordon thing utterly cringe worthy and not something to expect from the royal family even if they leave it

I'm sorry but... having endured 'Royal It's a Knockout' with every member of the RF apart from the Queen, dressed up looking ridiculous, jumping around and acting the fool, that comment is pretty obsolete to me. Now that was cringe.
The JC thing was fun and amusing

You are going back a bit now. Royal It's a Knockout was decades ago.
Roussette · 26/02/2021 18:01

I have stood like that, especially towards the end, I had massive babies and felt like they were going to drop out lol

justab0utsurviving · 26/02/2021 18:02

We only have the glimpses we see of famous people to make our decisions on whether we like them or not - same with politicians. We get glimpses. I have no negative feelings about Meghan as a person but I have found some f of the things she has done mildly irritating. And I don't particularly like leveraging their royal connections to make
Money and as I said, acting in a Us drama and marrying a prince doesn't de facto make you someone who everyone wants to suddenly hear from. She didn't overnight gain loads of wisdom and knowledge and importance just because of her marriage but they think and behave like she did. So I dislike their actions . Can't actually dislike them as people as don't know them well enough

Karmakarmachameleon · 26/02/2021 18:03

Were those comments ever actually confirmed or is more articles in certain newspapers from sources?

Well, exactly. Certain newspapers have loved using stories from ‘sources’ to paint Meghan as an uppity black woman. And people love to believe it. In fact didn't Eamonn Holmes once call her or her behaviour ‘uppity’? If that isn’t racist I don’t know what is.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 26/02/2021 18:04

I feel sorry for him really. Seems like he has a massive chip on his shoulder about being the spare, sent to boarding school so young, death of his mother etc etc. He was always going to unravel at some point. I do wish he'd just let it go, stop his attention seeking stunts and just live out of the spotlight. Or at least find something else to talk about.

RubyViolet · 26/02/2021 18:06

@Bibidy

I think Prince Harry has always seemed like a nice person, but I do feel their actions over the past couple of years have really put him and Meghan in a bad light.

To walk away from their duties in order to live privately and then do a load of high-profile podcasts, TV shows and interviews just makes a mockery of the whole reason they chose to step down. It makes it clear that they don't want privacy, they just want only favourable publicity.

Also to stand in the middle of some of the poorest people in the world and moan that nobody asks if you're OK is very badly judged.

I think if they genuinely had stepped out of the limelight people wouldn't feel so negative towards them.

I think the Africa interview and the inference that nobody was asking if they were ok was really unfortunate. They are being really badly advised. Their philanthropy appears to be shining a light on other people’s work and pain. I don’t think it is sustainable. I wish they would step back from all the PR, TV interviews and staged photo op’s and think of a new strategy before its too late. They could do so much but it appears they are grabbing everything that comes their way in terms of exposure. Invictus is such a brilliant event with real impact, hopefully they will do more work like this that creates real results.
TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 18:07

We only have the glimpses we see of famous people to make our decisions on whether we like them or not

Channelled through the lens of the press. You only see what they want you to see. I’m constantly shocked at how little awareness people have of this.

She didn't overnight gain loads of wisdom and knowledge and importance just because of her marriage but they think and behave like she did.

I don’t see any difference between her and the vast majority of celebs on this front. It’s interesting that she gets so much flack. At least she actually achieved something in her own right (her acting career). We’re supposed to listen to Wills because he fell out of the right vagina. That’s weirder if you ask me.

blueberryporridge · 26/02/2021 18:07

Seemingly the RF’s idea of philanthropy is visiting charities and hoping other people donate.

This, exactly. While also incurring huge expense for us taxpayers as they do it.

YanTanTethera123 · 26/02/2021 18:09

Harry and Meghan remind me of OliviaColeman in The Favourite where she screams ‘Look at me, look at me....don’t look at me!’
Quite frankly I think they’re a pair of attention seeking hypocrites.

TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 18:09

This, exactly. While also incurring huge expense for us taxpayers as they do it.

Absolutely. Imagine having the cheek to patronise homeless charities while having a significant number of royal palaces at their service that they live in for as little as a week a year (Holyrood).

wewillmeetagain · 26/02/2021 18:13

Harry is and has always been a spoilt brat! Hes much more like his mother than the royal family. Meghan has enabled and encouraged this behaviour because she is exactly the same. It's been known for a long time that harry was a complete nightmare behind the scenes but the palace PR did a fantastic job of covering it up! As for Meghan, this attitude that we all hate her because shes not a nice white aristocratic girl is absolutely laughable! She has proven what she is by the way she treated her father, the man who gave her the opportunities that she had to break into acting. The man who paid for her private education and university! It says an awful lot about a person when there is only one single member of their family at the wedding. I have no problem with them wanting to leave the RF and live a life away from the media but that's not actually what they want is it! They want to make money from the media and totally control the narrative!

Tierrasfuente · 26/02/2021 18:13

The later comments on this thread tar anyone who finds them irritating with the same brush.

I don't mind what they do. But there is no hope of avoiding knowing about it, when the Today programme covers it at 8.10am.

justab0utsurviving · 26/02/2021 18:13

But @TheKeatingFive the royal family don't actually preach that much on topics. They support their charities but they don't make money out of it and the Netflix deal is going to be films and documentaries with worthy messages or something.

TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 18:15

the royal family don't actually preach that much on topics.

Sweet lord, has no one ever listened to Charles? Confused

And Wills is getting just as bad.

ElspethFlashman · 26/02/2021 18:16

I really don't give a shit about them wanting to be celebs. They are clearly trying to follow the post-White House Obama model, with the Netflix deals and Foundation. Its only a matter of time before Megan announces a book deal.

Though I think they may have overestimated how important they are outside the UK - the Obamas are known in every neighbourhood in the US, but H&M are most certainly not.

So yeah I get that they have to feverishly raise their profile with interviews with people who are viewed across the US like Corden and Oprah. I fully expect some Jimmy Fallon appearance in the future. (He'd be a safe choice - he just laughs like a seal at everything.)

They need every bit of PR they can muster for their new career as.....whatever job title they call themselves.

What I object to is the little passive aggressive digs at how toxic and horrible and awful it all was in the UK. Oh and the necessity to get the last word, always. "Service is Universal". There was no need for that tone.

They are basically coming across as two people who ran screaming from the hellhole that was Great Britain to the sanctuary of the USA. When of course the US is one seriously fucked up country.

I'm not even British. But its all so negative and petty.

They could have a different tone. "The UK is a phenomenal place and the RF are wonderful hardworking dutiful people who we love so much....blah blah blah"

That would be far better PR, but then they have an American PR company who clearly recognise that headlines are generated best by broad blunt statements full of tension. And they do not give a shiny shit how those statements go down in a country H&M will never live in again, and why should they? Their job is to hit the headlines, so as to generated brand recognition in their chosen country and by God they're doing what they're paid for.

But I think their PR strategy is incredibly distasteful and disappointing and didn't have to be this way.

eddiemairswife · 26/02/2021 18:17

I've had four large bumps and never felt the need to cradle them or keep touching them.

TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 18:18

She has proven what she is by the way she treated her father, the man who gave her the opportunities that she had to break into acting.

You mean the man who totally sold her out to the press when the world was watching her?

Regardless of rights/wrongs, who had the moral high ground, I don’t know a single loving parent who would do this to their child. No matter what they’d done.

Lookingforwardto2021 · 26/02/2021 18:18

“Service is Universal. There was no need for that tone.”

What is the tone?

A democratic one, perhaps?

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