AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

AIBU?

Maybe they should have had different expectations. If they had taken the position - we are going to get shit press from tbe tabloids no matter what we do so let's just ignore it, then maybe they wouldn't have seen it as such a big deal. It's like they were surprised at the criticism from the media. I am not suggesting the tabloids were right - they are awful for what they do to people but surely he knew as a senior royal he would be under the microscope? That he would be scrutinised at every step. It would have eased off as the press got bored. But as I said earlier - the stories were all about her family and the fued and the court cases.

I am not entirely sure that why they think they had bad press - is there evidence for this ?

It was absolutely everywhere and very very toxic. And Harry talks about how it affected him in this JC 'interview' or whatever you call it

Harry is like his mum and bio father.

To be fair, he's not like his bio father at all. His bio grandfather however...

BasiliskStare

Here you go...just for starters

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

www.boredpanda.com/uk-media-double-standarts-royal-meghan-markle-kate-middleton/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

Nah, Harry is just a Spencer through and through.

I find JC really annoying but gave it a watch. I am happy for Harry, he seems happy with Meghan, I know the press like to paint her a certain way and none of us know what their relationship is actually like, but I can't see a reason for him to be cooerced into stuff he doesn't want to do. He has never seemed to be overly sold on staying within the line and doing his duty without being his own person, so I don't think it's a huge surprise to be honest that he has broken away.

It's a shame it's played out as it has through the press and with what seems like bad feeling, but good for him for putting his family first. I'm sure in time personal relationships with him and his family can heal or whatever, but good for them.

@Rousette - Ok that was after they stepped back - I think they could both have done brilliant service - a shame that PH did not choose do do that & indeed Meghan

The Harry is not Prince's Charles son is just rubbish and stupid in my view

Harry is the absolute double of the Duke of Edinburgh! The rumors are nonsense.

Basilisk not it was before they stepped away.

No wonder they did...

Megan has played him like a violin.

No wonder he and William have fallen out, William can see the reality

@Rousette - fair play - your opinion _ to a large extent I could not care less but all best to you & to them

@Ihavenoauthority

Megan has played him like a violin.

No wonder he and William have fallen out, William can see the reality

Megan has played him like a violin.

Kate literally deferred her uni place and uni choice to specifically seek out William. She literally did nothing for 10 years waiting for him to propose. Just say you hate that Harry found love with a divorced, half Black woman who's also older than him. It would be easier than all the "BuT tHeRe's JuSt sOMEthIng I dON't lIkE aBoUt HeR" nonsense. The hate and dog-whistle racism that Meghan has faced has shocked even me and I am used to racism in the UK.

@Ihavenoauthority

Megan has played him like a violin.

No wonder he and William have fallen out, William can see the reality

Maybe they fell out because William was ALLEGEDLY sleeping with someone else?

Do people really think Harry, who has probably been trained his entire life to notice hangers on, has been taken in by one woman?

@Roussette a lot of those comparisons are a bit stupid and don't even make sense. For a start the bump touching article was kate touching the side of her bump as she walked in one occasion compared to cradling the bump in about 10 different photos / events in Megan's photos. It was weird how she kept doing it. I have had two babies and I never stood like that holding my bump. Might have rested my hand on my bump watching TV but that's probably about it. Don't think I have saw anyone else doing it either.

And the rest of theee 'headlines' are just a bit stupid. They aren't racist , they aren't viscous they are just bad journalism.

@justab0utsurviving

Maybe they should have had different expectations. If they had taken the position - we are going to get shit press from tbe tabloids no matter what we do so let's just ignore it, then maybe they wouldn't have seen it as such a big deal. It's like they were surprised at the criticism from the media. I am not suggesting the tabloids were right - they are awful for what they do to people but surely he knew as a senior royal he would be under the microscope? That he would be scrutinised at every step. It would have eased off as the press got bored. But as I said earlier - the stories were all about her family and the fued and the court cases.

The thing is, I don't support media intrusion (obviously), but I find it a bit disingenuous to claim that they had it much worse than anyone else.

Comparing how Kate got treated after ten years is not the same as how she was treated initially - mobbed on her way to work by photographers, Waity Katie, cruel comparisons to her sister, horrible headlines about her family... Etc

I mean, did Meghan ever face a headline as obscenely cruel as Duchess of Pork?

I'm not denying the racist elements. I'm not saying that the press SHOULD be this cruel to anyone. But I'm a bit at the short term memories people seem to have at press behaviour, and the false comparisons between when Kate was well established on the scene vs Meghan's reception.

And that's on Harry. He's had a front row seat, and he's had a PR machine working for him for years to sand off the rough edges. He is the one who should have understood the situation better, and should have worked a more graceful way out of it.

(personally I've always found him to be a bit of a twat though)

@Roussette that Buzzfeed link is so revealing and well put together. Kate as an "exacting fashionista" It really show up the hypocrisy.

Megan has played him like a violin.

No wonder he and William have fallen out, William can see the reality

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justabout
So a pregnant woman is not allowed to cradle her bump. Who says? I did, I had ginormous babies.

They might be bad journalism to you, but I would feel so so disheartened if one member of the RF could do something, be something, wear something, act some way... but there was nothing I could do or wear or say that would stop such vile negative headlines. You cannot tell me those headlines were fair. Surely not. The DMail had it in for her early on.

Ooooh, I just can't quite put my finger on it, but there's just something about her I don't like

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Yeah, does my head in VladmirsPoutine, they're so obvious.

I mean, did Meghan ever face a headline as obscenely cruel as Duchess of Pork?

This was literally as it was announced he was dating her.

EXCLUSIVE: Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed - so will he be dropping by for tea?

- Prince Harry's new girl, Suits star Meghan Markle, is from Crenshaw, LA
- Crenshaw has endured 47 crimes in the past week - including murder
- Gangs, including the Bloods, count the neighborhood as their territory
- Markle' social worker mom, Doria Ragland, lives in the run-down area
- And the actress's aunt, Ava Burrow, is in nearby gang-afflicted Inglewood

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3896180/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-actress-Meghan-Markles.html

@Ihavenoauthority

Megan has played him like a violin.

No wonder he and William have fallen out, William can see the reality

How the fuck do you know that? Or are you assuming, and believing the gutter press?

“ So Meghan is wrong because she fought back against the criticism?”

Depends on what outcome they wanted from it all, I guess?

They seem to be living a pretty comfortable life in California, so if they’re happy, then no harm done.

But if she was genuinely wanting an expecting to be accepted as a senior Royal- then yeah, she should have realised she needed to do a bit more than shag Harry if she wanted the privilege and entitlement that comes with the position.

What should she gave done then Christ ?

For a start the bump touching article was kate touching the side of her bump as she walked in one occasion compared to cradling the bump in about 10 different photos / events in Megan's photos. It was weird how she kept doing it.

I find it bizarre that you can't tell how much you're being played. You've no idea how often each woman touched their bump, all you can know is that the press brought Meghan touching hers to your attention time and time again. For some reason.

And what, precisely is wrong or, to use your word 'weird' about touching one's bump?

@Roussette she can do whatever she likes but it is just a bit cringeworthy and makes her look a bit OTT and a bit "look at me, I am pregnant' yeah we can see that , we don't need a giant ducking sign