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AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 26/02/2021 09:54

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

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PicsInRed · 26/02/2021 15:27

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

And Kate Middleton, a white middle class woman, got exactly the same degree and intensity of criticism for a good 4-5 years when she first married into the RF. from her hairstyle, to her face, to her voice, to her clothes, even when she was hospitalised in her pregnancies she got criticism. She also got the blame somehow when an Australian DJ jeopardised the career of a nurse on the ward KM was admitted to when experiencing HG in her pregnancy, and that nurse committed suicide. It's less about racism, more about misogyny. Because isn't it funny how no one has a word to say about Jack Brooksbank.

But now MM has come along all of a sudden the press fawn over KM. very odd but not surprising

The difference is that the criticism of Kate began to level off when she got engaged, married, had her first child.

The criticism of Megan ramped up when she got engaged, married, had her first child. Then the racists started in on her baby (one media "personality" directly comparing Archie to a chimpanzee). Hmm

The royal family said and did nothing to assist Willo was happy enough to comment on racism in football but not against his infant nephew.

I think that was, rightly, it for Megan and Harry. They must have reasonably seen at that juncture that things would never get better and Archie's childhood would be worse than Harry's.

Good on them for leaving, hope the US is kinder than the UK was.

Loopyloututu2 · 26/02/2021 15:28

Prince Andrew is a paedophile but no one is really all that bothered.

Prince Andrew is vile but he leads a very private life so no one really thinks about him. Unlike H&M who are still shoving themselves down our throats (it feels like) despite claiming they want privacy. Of course people will get irritated.
They don’t need the media coverage - they have plenty of money to live the quiet life they apparently desire - so why don’t they?
You can’t have it both ways and expect everyone to just lap it up and love you. Of course they will get negativity for being massive hypocrites.

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LolaSmiles · 26/02/2021 15:34

I don’t blame Harry for leaving the royal family but I do struggle with understanding why he isn’t continuing to with his role as a full time senior working royal, yet is still in the line of succession. If it’s not a job he wants to do (fair enough) then I think he should completely step down from it. As for Andrew, he shouldn’t be in the line of succession either
I agree.

I don't mind Harry and have a lot of time for his work with the forces and forces charities, but I'm getting a bit fed up of the 'we want privacy, no actually look at us, we don't want to be in the media, but here's us doing celeby things, we don't want royal duties, but we want our titles and to market ourselves as celebrities using the royal family link'.

I'd have much more time for them as a couple if they wanted more privacy, got more privacy and then got on with supporting the causes close to their hearts.

itispersonal · 26/02/2021 15:34

I don't like them, don't watch them, read them, comment about them is ridiculous.

I don't like Donald Trump, the Tory government, certain rules and laws. Can I not comment about them? Do I have to ignore it?

Harry and Meghan remind me of the Imagine video of the millionaires recorded from the mansion, telling us how hard they have it and we will get through it! Poor them! Nasty stories in the media, (which Kate, Fergie, Camila have had years of too, and become fish and chip paper the next day.
Also the tone deaf Africa clip of a millionaire, privileged person, telling the world she is just existing and no one is asking how she is doing. Whilst the women around her, are trying to avoid being raped and murdered!

They could have done a Sophie and Edward and faded away, though they are now coming back into the fold. But you can't court the media and bemoan the media. Which personality does get the media just on their own terms?

Roussette · 26/02/2021 15:35

PrinceAndrew leads a private life because he is forced to. And maybe we should be paying more attention to him? Maybe the Press should too.
He has given up nothing except royal duties. He doesn't earn his own money, he doesn't pay for his security (£300K per annum), he isn't berated at every turn. He just carries on his very rich privileged life a little more carefully than he did before. Andhe has kept his honorary and military titles. Unlike Harry who was stripped of his.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 26/02/2021 15:35

Harry doesn’t understand he has left because some PR twit has persuaded him otherwise

“You are just stepping back Harry it’s fine you haven’t left “

That is why he has agreed to this it really hasn’t dawned on him - unfortunately he only agrees with people who say what he wants to hear

I think he is really going to miss his military appointments and I’m sure he genuinely cares for his family and probably squares it off that they can’t mix anyway

Unfortunately if you keep justifying things it usually means you are stepping back from your own values

luckylavender · 26/02/2021 15:39

@PicsInRed - that's actually quite a stupid statement

Roussette · 26/02/2021 15:40

This is good to see.
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1402154/princess-eugenie-news-meghan-markle-latest-royal-baby-update-royal-family-news-vn

Meghan and Eugenie very close.

"Meghan Markle and Princess Eugenie have formed an even tighter bond over their royal baby boom.
"According to PEOPLE magazine, the two mums are 'very close' and have been in contact throughout their respective pregnancies.

Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 15:42

Where's @ChocolateSantaisthebestkind?

They started this thread to presumably discuss this and yet they've not hung about. Confused

ChristOnAPeloton · 26/02/2021 15:44

“ The criticism of Megan ramped up when she got engaged, married, had her first child.”

Agreed. But I still don’t see why that’s automatically down to racism, and not the behaviour of the two women involved.

Kate received a lot of criticism in the seven years between dating PW and becoming his fiancée. But she kept her head down, her smile fixed in place, and transformed herself into the perfect little Princess for Wills and Queenie.

Meghan and Harry announced their engagement after just over a year, and she became more (not less, unlike Kate) obnoxious as time went on. All this stuff at the time about wanting to hit the ground running, and revolutionising the Royal family, and then that excruciatingly embarrassing interview in South Africa once it was dawning on her that she needed to do a little more than write a few messages on bananas to become the next people’s princess.

Harry also did her no favours with the “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets” comments over the wedding tiara. And neither did that dreadful book which they kept on pretending they’d had nothing to do with.

But, yeah sure. It’s only because she’s mixed race.

Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 15:45

@eddiemairswife

Why was he on an open-topped bus talking to James Corden?
I thought that was genius. they still got to drive around LA but nobody could see them on there. Plus it sorted the social distancing without masks problem.
hansgrueber · 26/02/2021 15:48

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eddiemairswife · 26/02/2021 15:52

I'm sure Harry has a big enough garden to take part in a socially distanced interview; they could even have done it in the pool.

Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 15:56

@eddiemairswife

I'm sure Harry has a big enough garden to take part in a socially distanced interview; they could even have done it in the pool.
I'm sure his garden is huge, but the bus was fun. I would imagine he didn't want a camera crew etc round to his house.
minou123 · 26/02/2021 16:00

hansgrueber
Rubbish! It's racist to suggest that because she is 'of colour' she is immune from criticism. I'd never heard of her, when I first saw a picture I thought she might have Hispanic blood, I disliked the way she adopted a Klingon approach.

What is a "Kingon approach"? Isn't a Kilingon something to do with star trek/or star wars?

PrelovedWithValue · 26/02/2021 16:04

I don't like Donald Trump, the Tory government, certain rules and laws. Can I not comment about them? Do I have to ignore it?

There is a massive difference between paying attention to and commenting on politics, which on some level directly affects you, and paying attention to and commenting on the lives of two individuals, neither of whom are likely to impact your life on any level unless you choose it.

slashlover · 26/02/2021 16:05

Kate received a lot of criticism in the seven years between dating PW and becoming his fiancée. But she kept her head down, her smile fixed in place, and transformed herself into the perfect little Princess for Wills and Queenie.

So Meghan is wrong because she fought back against the criticism?

Harry also did her no favours with the “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets” comments over the wedding tiara. And neither did that dreadful book which they kept on pretending they’d had nothing to do with.

Were those comments ever actually confirmed or is more articles in certain newspapers from sources?

Devlesko · 26/02/2021 16:06

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Loopyloututu2 · 26/02/2021 16:08

At least MM wasn't prepared to live like that, a high price to pay for nannies and nice frocks.

Hmm, I’m pretty sure she still has those!

derxa · 26/02/2021 16:13

Harry is like his mum and bio father. You mean Charles. Please stop making this accusation. It's untrue and cruel.

BasiliskStare · 26/02/2021 16:15

OK so one comment and then no more

  1. I think H&M could have lived a life of service ( albeit not 1st in line to the throne ) so very very much they could - Harry - I think e.g. invictus games etc - brilliant) There are so many things Meghan could have done - I think
  2. I am not entirely sure that why they think they had bad press - is there evidence for this ? I think they were rather celebrated and welcomed ( especially Meghan )
  3. I think there is a difference between service and celebrity philanthropy

Well that is my point & beyond that they can do what they like in my view

Sparklingbrook · 26/02/2021 16:15

@derxa

Harry is like his mum and bio father. You mean Charles. Please stop making this accusation. It's untrue and cruel.
I agree. It's soooo boring too.
TheKeatingFive · 26/02/2021 16:17

I am not entirely sure that why they think they had bad press - is there evidence for this ? I think they were rather celebrated and welcomed ( especially Meghan)

Seriously? Were you even paying attention? Hmm

BasiliskStare · 26/02/2021 16:22

@TheKeatingFive - fair play - I do not recall any bad press - but give me some evidence, Honestly I am not trying to be untoward here