Aibu to think that serving potatoes at all with salmon en croute is just unnecessary carbohydrates

[halvedfees]

Further to the thread on boiled potatoes, from what I could glean not one person pointed out that you are serving carbohydrates with what should be already an ample portion of carbohydrates in the pastry. We have salmon en croute with extra green veg to fill everyone up. Is it just me or do people not get what a healthy portion (especially carbohydrates) actually is? Don't get me started on garlic bread being served with pasta.......🤬

As a kid in the 70's we used to bulk out meals with bread and butter. Might be a similar hangover from the past.

My nan used to do this in the 90s, I loved it. Mopping up my gravy after nan's roast with some bread and butter! She's even serve bread and butter with chips... Mmm, chip butties. Sadly my grandad was very overweight and died of a heart attack age 65 So it wasn't exactly a healthy diet they had.

However, I have started giving my kids bread and butter at the end of their meal if they're still hungry. My 6 year old is very skinny despite eating more than me at most mealtimes. So I think he does need it. Obviously I've tried giving him healthier things like a banana but sometimes the easiest tummy-filling extra to hand is a slice of bread, a chunk of leftover baguette etc.

BidensWingWoman

Love a macaroni pie though

IKR! I've been craving one ever since i posted about it...“

Only ever had one, about 45 years ago at a chippy at Kyle of Localsh, waiting for the ferry. All he had left and he threw them in the hot fat to heat them up.

Suspect that’s probably not the best way to heat them up? Seagulls enjoyed them though, remember that 😁

A recipe for pasta with potatoes, for double carb lovers 😁

Shepherd’s pie without chips is unthinkable.
Fish n chips without bread and butter? Never.

So many cuisines have ‘double carb’ dishes, Cornish Pasties, various ‘aloo’ curries with rice or chapati, Limoges potato pie, burritos stuffed with rice,

Before you get to ‘double carb desserts’ : Bakewell Tart, Dutch apple cake...

Mmmmmm bread and butter in gravy after a meal was the best ever! Especially if you had a few chips you’d saved which you inserted into the gravy dipped bread.😋

@Bluesername

Better to ditch the high-fat pastry than the potatoes, surely?

Yikes. How joyless. Better to keep the yummy pastry (especially if puff) and ditch the (can be dull unless you dress them up with butter, herbs etc.) boiled potatoes.

Cheesy potatoes would be nice..,

Suspect that’s probably not the best way to heat them up?

No idea, never tried it, but it doesn't appeal. There is definitely a thing with some chip shops where they deep fry everything - hence the pizza crunch. Deep fried pizza in batter. Never tried that either tbh!

@C8H10N4O2

I am a front-line health care professional who sees and deals with the consequences of a poor diet on a daily basis

Like many here, I think its just wonderful that our hard pressed front liners are so committed, that they still make time to come and tell a bunch of silly women that erudite advice "simply eat less".

So committed that they do it ieven when they plainly have no professional expertise in diet and nutrition.

Truly miraculous.

This may be the case for @C8H10N4O2 but why are there so many fat people working in the NHS ? Are they not seeing or listening ?

You work in health long enough, you get to realise that things are a lot more complex than "fat people eat too much bad"

You work in the NHS you're probably rather stressed yourself, and the link between stress and poor physical health, particularly weight gain, is known

Here’s a tip: instead of breadcrumbs as a topping for macaroni cheese, try crushing up cheese and onion crisps and sprinkling them over instead chef’s kiss

I have come across macaroni cheese and baked potato both were I grew up in the west coast and with DH in Inverness.
But looking at Google it is obviously also served elsewhere.

The USA has two good riffs. Crispy potato skins as a boat for mac&cheese and mac&cheese croquettes. These are both tastier than the baked potato option.

Sadly DH doesn't like macaroni pie. He being a proper southern person doesn't like carbs. He doesn't like macaroni or Scotch pie pastry.

Hi OP,
For 58 years I would have responded exactly as the majority of posters have. But after a type 2 diabetes diagnosis and big changes to the way I eat I now feel as you do about the food we eat in restaurants, the food advertised, and the huge amount of unhealthy foods in grocery stores.

So much of what is considered normal is unhealthy.
Even so-I’m very jealous of all those who can eat carbs with abandon!

[quote JaneJeffer]@SheldonesqueIsUnwell I thought I had muddled my carbs and my mafs

@NeverDropYourMoonCup that's not dinner, that's a side dish![/quote]
Not the amount I had, it wasn't.

Tracked it afterwards. 86 calories for half a pound of cauli, 190 for the Béchamel, 238 for the cheese. Nowhere near my TDEE, but God, it tasted good and I wasn't hungry afterwards. Even if I'd had an entire cauliflower and a pint of sauce, I'd have still come in well under and had 'room' in the calculations for chips.

Mind you, I'd take boiled potatoes (preferably with chopped Dill), steamed veg and panfried Salmon over manky flaky/soggy/burned pastry any day, as well.

I think DP's going to the chipshop tonight. I'm debating about whether to have Spring Roll, chips and curry sauce or Prawn Balls, Salt and Pepper Squid and Green Lipped Mussels in Black Bean Sauce. Plus plain rice. Decisions, decisions...

(NB: I am really enjoying the OMAD thing - I think it shows, doesn't it?)

As much as I do enjoy a pie wrapped in carb, I too have never heard of macaroni cheese in a baked tattie and would consider it a bit too much.

I like my roni unadulterated.

So pie and mash is out
Burger and chips is out

@SmidgenofaPigeon

Oh bore off. You sound well joyless.

Don’t you ever have crisps with sandwiches? Yorkshire’s with roast potatoes

agree :)

Is it just me or do people not get what a healthy portion (especially carbohydrates) actually is?

It's just you, with this sanctimonious shite. It doesn't even make sense.

You could have a huge portion of your salmon in pastry with green veg. I could have a small portion with a small portion of new potatoes and green veg. Mine could easily have fewer calories and more minerals and vitamins. So what the fucking fuck are you blithering on about?

The reason for the pastry and potatoes is not everyone can afford a large portion of salmon en croute so they need potatoes to bulk it out. Pie and mash is a classic too, you need both! Over a week we do need to balance our diet but don't take the joy out of eating!

(my meal tonight happens to be low carb, yesterday's too but I'll have pizza and garlic bread soon enough

@hatedbytheDailyMail

Is it just me or do people not get what a healthy portion (especially carbohydrates) actually is?

It's just you, with this sanctimonious shite. It doesn't even make sense.

You could have a huge portion of your salmon in pastry with green veg. I could have a small portion with a small portion of new potatoes and green veg. Mine could easily have fewer calories and more minerals and vitamins. So what the fucking fuck are you blithering on about?

This with bells on

Pastry, you say? Once can only hope it was handmade with unrefined grain - refined carbs and processed foods are simply dreadful.

@Riapia

Shepherd’s pie without chips is unthinkable. Fish n chips without bread and butter? Never.

Yes and yes. Obviously you need a pot of tea with the fish and chips with bread and butter.

This is REALLY ingrained in people in France and Belgium. I remember a Belgian friend just staring in amazement at a plate of chips and garlic bread. I quite like that combination, but you're probably right OP.

I am a fan of multiplecarbing but even I would stare at chips and garlic bread on one plate🙈 It's just not a combo I've ever seen before coming to uk