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Aibu to think that serving potatoes at all with salmon en croute is just unnecessary carbohydrates

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halvedfees · 23/02/2021 09:27

Further to the thread on boiled potatoes, from what I could glean not one person pointed out that you are serving carbohydrates with what should be already an ample portion of carbohydrates in the pastry. We have salmon en croute with extra green veg to fill everyone up. Is it just me or do people not get what a healthy portion (especially carbohydrates) actually is? Don't get me started on garlic bread being served with pasta.......🤬

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SpacePug · 23/02/2021 18:28

This reminds me of a FB post I saw today of someone having a Cornish pasty sandwich 😳 a ginsters pasty in between 2 slices of buttered bread. Now that's a carb overload

Choppingandchanging · 23/02/2021 18:28

It is true though that carbs can make your body desperately crave excess calories, in a way that fat and protein do not

Except of course it's not that simple. It depends on what kind of carbohydrates you are eating (eg mono or disaccharides, complex or simple etc), how they have been prepared, what they are served with and how your own body deals with them. When people talk about 'carbs', they forget that thinks like milk, butter and nuts all contain them. The demonisation of one food group is unnecessary and unhealthy.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/02/2021 18:31

the potatoes, judging by the other thread, would have to be slathered in butter to make them palatable

I can quite happily eat boiled potatoes, hot or cold, without butter. I might put a sprinkle of (swift intake of breath) salt on them tough if they weren't a very flavoursome variety.

gottakeeponmovin · 23/02/2021 18:36

My our house must be joyless

lifeturnsonadime · 23/02/2021 18:37

this reminds me of a time I had a sandwich at a friends house and she asked me whether I wanted butter OR mayonnaise on my sandwich.

I mean in what kind of parallel universe would you not have both? Unless it is an egg sandwich then butter and mayo is boak.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/02/2021 18:45

Once they're stirred into the saucepan full of mashed potato, milk, butter, sea salt, grating of Nutmeg and put on the plate with Petits Pois, carrots, pork/lamb chop, baked apple and half a pint of super thick gravy.

Super-thick gravy is a carb in itself.

One of my favourite carbs, as it happens.

LunarCatAndDaffodils · 23/02/2021 18:48

If you don’t want tatties with your salmon en croute, don’t have them. That’s the extent of your say on the matter.

Eckhart · 23/02/2021 18:50

@Choppingandchanging

It is true though that carbs can make your body desperately crave excess calories, in a way that fat and protein do not

Except of course it's not that simple. It depends on what kind of carbohydrates you are eating (eg mono or disaccharides, complex or simple etc), how they have been prepared, what they are served with and how your own body deals with them. When people talk about 'carbs', they forget that thinks like milk, butter and nuts all contain them. The demonisation of one food group is unnecessary and unhealthy.

Well, most foods have all 3 macros in them, so, nobody actually can demonise any of them without stopping eating altogether.

When 'people' talk about carbs, some of them mean one thing, some of them mean another, some of them mean another still. You can't put all of the people who talk about carbs into a homogenous group.

Our standard high carb diet (lots of flour and sugar) does cause cravings for more calories than we need, where a high protein or high fat diet would not.

I'm sorry I didn't spell it out.

I love the way people use the word 'demonise' with relation to carbs. If somebody stops eating biscuits, nobody says they are 'demonising' them. Lowering carbs makes sense, biologically, hormonally. That's not demonisation, that's just how the body works.

Eckhart · 23/02/2021 18:51

@LunarCatAndDaffodils

If you don’t want tatties with your salmon en croute, don’t have them. That’s the extent of your say on the matter.
But... where is OP?!
SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/02/2021 18:53

@CaravaggioLover

Is it ok for me to continue mixing my voddies 'n' coke ( full sugar) with extra Tia Maria?
Yes.
NeverDropYourMoonCup · 23/02/2021 19:03

I'm having a low carb dinner tonight.

DP's making Cauliflower cheese. Steamed cauli so it isn't soggy, homemade Béchamel, Parmesan grated on top.

That's healthy and not even slightly fattening, isn't it?

I'm disappointed that we have no steak cut chips left in the freezer to dip in the sauce

It's also the only meal I've had today - it'll take a hell of a lot of it to get anywhere near my TDEE. Going to have a bloody good go at it, though.

CouldItBeCake · 23/02/2021 19:14

I call TAAT
and T*AT
and also a lovely calorific TARTe au citron

Choppingandchanging · 23/02/2021 19:19

Our standard high carb diet (lots of flour and sugar) does cause cravings for more calories than we need, where a high protein or high fat diet would not

Much at you said we shouldn't generalise about what people mean by 'carbs' (and I still think most people dont understand there are different carbohydrates), a 'standard' high carbohydrate diet isn't necessarily full of sugar or white flour. I eat plenty of carbohydrates every day, mostly in the form of homemade bread - which is high in carbohydrates. It contains linseed, sunflower seeds, chia and pumpkin seeds, plus wholemeal flour. Believe me, no-one would be craving more calories after that.

I love the way people use the word 'demonise' with relation to carbs. If somebody stops eating biscuits, nobody says they are 'demonising' them. Lowering carbs makes sense, biologically, hormonally. That's not demonisation, that's just how the body works.

Again, here's the generalisation about ''carbs'. We could probably all eat less refined sugar, I agree. All carbohydrates should be reduced? Well no, it depends how much we are eating, what sort, how we prepare and cook it etc. Seeds, nuts, root vegetables, milk etc are all rich in carbohydrates and there really is no need to reduce then because of their carbohydrate content. Quite the opposite.

Chloemol · 23/02/2021 19:22

Each to their own, live and let live

scrivette · 23/02/2021 19:30

What is garlic bread supposed to be eaten with if not pasta? (or pizza for another double carb variation).

Eckhart · 23/02/2021 19:30

@Choppingandchanging

You seem to be being deliberately obtuse in your nitpicking and twisting of my points. I can't even be bothered to clarify to you any more. I'm sure you've got the general idea of what I'm saying. And you seem to think I'm getting it wrong.

Not to worry.

Eckhart · 23/02/2021 19:31

@scrivette

What is garlic bread supposed to be eaten with if not pasta? (or pizza for another double carb variation).
Steamed water Wink
Sleepingdogs12 · 23/02/2021 19:40

It was plain boiled potatoes in that post, this site is bonkers for attitudes to food. We don't know what portion size it was, what else they had all day what sort of activity levels they have. Also it was for children, they need carbohydrates and spuds have nutritional value. Dangerous attitudes to food on here .

alexdgr8 · 23/02/2021 19:42

OP, i sympathise with what you are trying to address.
there was discussion last week about the usual numbers of sausages eaten with mash.
the discussion seemed to be about what was/might be a greedy number. with no care as to the health implications of bringing up children to view eating large quantities of processed meat as the norm, and hence impacting their health later on.
i gave up trying discuss it seriously. it descended into militant hedonism with ribald double entendres.

amymel2016 · 23/02/2021 19:45

YABU I’m afraid OP.

Pastry and potatoes are born to be together. Pie and mash? Yes please. Beef Wellington and dauphinois? Absolutely. Croissant and fries? It’s the French way!

CorianderBee · 23/02/2021 19:47

Some people like potatoes...

Sometimes I have curry with rice and a naan. Shock horror. Do you also never have potatoes and Yorkshire's on a roast?

Double carbs is fine as your diet should be balanced over the whole day. Maybe they didn't have carbs for lunch?

LemonSwan · 23/02/2021 19:51

Whats healthy for you isnt healthy for everyone.

I am in a group of individuals who produce high levels of amylase and I require a diet of 50% carbs. A low/ no carb diet sees me pilling on weight at the speed of a dress size a month.

I cant complain though. For dinner tonight I had a double portion of butternut squash risotto, (150g dry weight, half a pack of bacon, half a butternut squash, a serving spoon of butter and 90g of grated parmesan) alongside a salad and half a loaf of buttered soft and airy Danish bread.

Im size 8 and fit in 00 jeans.

May your contempt for carb eaters turn to jealousy haha

CorianderBee · 23/02/2021 19:58

@SchrodingersImmigrant

What on earth is weird about pasta and garlic bread?

I think it's bit of a British thing? As far as I know Italians don't do it and where I grew up we didn't either (central europe)

Americans also do it
123HereComesTheSun · 23/02/2021 20:11

@Tureen double denim is on fleek babes!

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 23/02/2021 20:12

This thread is hilarious I would recommend a scotch pie IN a roll!

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