To be triggered by the sight and sound of Nicola Sturgeon

[Ladytremain]

Since lockdown started I have found that it creates a feeling of dread and anxiety in me every time I hear her voice or see a photo of Nicola Sturgeon or watch her on TV. Same with Boris to an extent, but less so due to Scottish restrictions being more relevant to me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to hear her speak or see her without these horrible feelings coming back: feeling of bleakness and worry about what she’s going to say next. I think I’ve just come to associate her voice and face with bad news. There’s also part of me that has a sense she’s enjoying the level of control she has over the nation. I just don’t think I’ll ever be able to listen to her again without being transported back to these horrible times. I know in my rational mind she’s just doing her job, but I still feel a strong aversion due to the messages she’s delivering

@Moirarose2021

Can't stand her but my initial automatic "feck off" is when Jason Leitch comes on, I swear I have no control over it. As far as I can see the SNP just want to bribe people for their vote and keep the populace dependent upon them. I never see how they plan to grow the economy, solve the education disaster or reduce drugs deaths just a wee pat on the head and here be a good citizen, here's a wee 20 quid for you

I agree. What I don’t get is how, when we have a world leading epidemiologist in Hugh Pennington living in our midst, we firstly have a CMO leading the response who looks at women’s fannies for a living and then a CMO who looks in peoples mouths for a living. You’d think we may, perhaps, only possibly, given that we’re in a respiratory virus pandemic, have a CMO who is an expert in it.

@Raffleyourdoughnut

Seriously. Just don't watch her. Vote the SNP out in May.

This. I agree with you that she seems to be revelling in. Seems incapable of delegating.

revelling in it...

I like Nicola Sturgeon and look forward to voting SNP in May

@Norwaydidnthappen

I like her but it’s easy for me to say that because I’m not Scottish. DH’s Scottish colleagues despise her and his American ones hated Obama too who I also always liked so 🤷🏻‍♀️.

I’d take Sturgeon over Bojo any day.

You are being naive. She is a nationalist who cares only about destabilising the UK. Living here in 2014 was extremely unpleasant.

If you find her voice triggering turn onto a different channel when she is on. She is the first minister ilof a country in a pandemic, stands to reason that on balance a lot of the news is depressing at the moment. If you don't want to hear it, turn over that's what I do when the buffoon Boris is on.

@LemonTT

She is a Nationalist. A political movement that derived from false constructs of identity, exceptionalism, exclusion and prejudice.

Her entire political ambition has at its heart a fundamental contradiction. She wants to leave the uk Union and she wants to join the eu Union. That’s economically inept. It’s politically inept and it’s socially inept.

But in the world of nationalist rhetoric as long as she opposes England and Boris it is valid. Her arguments aren’t any better than those made for brexit by what were English nationalists or by MAGA movement.

As you can see I view nationalism as a barren movement that has never led to anything positive other than war, depression and persecution.

Agreed. A lot of people seem to ignore this contradiction. Or just kid themselves Scottish nationalism is better than other forms of nationalism.

Oh hopefully someone here will be able to answer a question that nobody has ever been able to answer.

Why are people so interested in defending Salmond, when his defence was basically 'yes, he's a sleaze with women and behaved badly - but he didn't behave that badly'.

Why are so many people rushing to defend him? What are you hopng to gain, other than to discredit Sturgeon? Do you want him back in office? Surely not!

If people can't see the inherent difference between an independance movement that is pro foreign nationals moving to and working in their country, and one that is based on the removal of such people, then I don't know what to say.

I wouldn’t defend him being a sleaze. But I will defend the position that he was found innocent and it seems to have been a trial encouraged by the Murrells for their gain. Did Nicola have no idea about him being a sleaze the entire relationship? If not, it seems odd that it is said ‘everyone knew’. So I assume she did know he was this way and kept in with him to further her own career. It doesn’t add up. It doesn’t really have to do with defending Salmond, it has everything to do with Sturgeons integrity.

So are you blaming Sturgeon for not saying anything sooner?

FFS. Why is it always the woman's fault!

@BidensWingWoman

If people can't see the inherent difference between an independance movement that is pro foreign nationals moving to and working in their country, and one that is based on the removal of such people, then I don't know what to say.

Oh don't be ridiculous. Every country has an immigration policy in place to limit numbers. The fact that Scotland is bleeding its own talented skilled people and the SNP are using this supposed attraction of immigrants from all over the world as a PR exercise indicates that you need to improve your critical reading abilities and not take everything at face value!

Umm... I wasn't comparing immigration policies. I was comparing national parties.

There's a significant difference between the two...

What are you on about? She’s not even one of the women in question! This isn’t victim blaming, don’t get it twisted! Did he do this or did he not? Did she know or did she not? She is First Minister of our country. If she seen bad behaviour why publicly support him as his number two? Until she got the top position. If she didn’t see any of it, why were her/her husband encouraging the witch-hunt and pretending she knows nothing of it.

England value Scotland more than they do the EU. SNP value any other place but England.

I didn't say she was a victim! But you are blaming her for not saying anything sooner.

But bizarrely, she's also at fault for the what you call 'witch hunt'.

So she's at fault for both not doing something about it, and doing something about it.

Meanwhile everyone is feeling sorry for poor old sleazebag in the corner for being stitched up!

She spouts so much rubbish and I’m shocked so many people believe her. One week her main speel is “the NHS is my main priority” and the next week “education is my main priority”, yes both are doing atrociously. The figures don’t lie, but she does.

Surely anyone with an ounce of common sense could work out that lots of the things she promises, just aren’t possible?

@Jollygoodtime

England value Scotland more than they do the EU. SNP value any other place but England.

Ooh well said.

It's funny how the majority in England wanted out of the EU, and part of that was not wanting to be 'ruled' by Europe (which we weren't, we got our own way 99% of the time), but don't understand why Scotland might want to have self determination (which we do on some matters, but much, much less than the UK did within Europe)

@BidensWingWoman

It's funny how the majority in England wanted out of the EU, and part of that was not wanting to be 'ruled' by Europe (which we weren't, we got our own way 99% of the time), but don't understand why Scotland might want to have self determination (which we do on some matters, but much, much less than the UK did within Europe)

Its almost as funny as the Scottish Government refusing to allow Shetland and Orkney to have a vote on their future independence from Scotland, isn't it?

It's funny how so many in Scotland want out of the UK, and part of that is not wanting to be "ruled" by England (which they're not, they get their own way 99% of the time), but want to then rejoin the EU to give up the sovereignty they would get through independence.

Shetland isn't looking for independence. I don't know about Orkney.

There's been a lot of misunderstanding reported as fact

Lol.

If that was true you'd have a point @TakeTheCuntOutOfScunthorpe!

@Carycy

I just feel she is constantly trying to undermine and get one up on Boris! Don’t think he is wonderful but I think she should at least try and present a united front a bit. She is always like ha ha, I disagree with you I am going to do it slightly different just because I can.

Yes, and instead she's pushing for the absolute opposite. I am not opposed to independence (I am opposed to SNP) , independence may be a good thing. But not now, not when the world and it's finances is broken. Independence will affect younger generations for years to come, if we want independence Scotland may need to take that on the chin. But Covid repercussions mixed with Independence repercussions is just selfish. Why can't we get heads down, focus and fix this mess before creating another battle.

@BidensWingWoman

Shetland isn't looking for independence. I don't know about Orkney.

There's been a lot of misunderstanding reported as fact

There was pressure at the time of the last referendum for Shetland and Orkney to have a vote on greater autonomy from the Scottish state. There is still that pressure very much around in Shetland, and Shetland Islands Council recently voted to pursue that policy. You are clearly completely out of tune about what is going on outwith the central belt of Scotland, and your glib, generalising comments are really offensive to a former part of Norway which was co-opted into Scotland against the will of the people living there, lost its original language after its use was heavily discouraged by Scottish state institutions and influence, and is culturally distinct from Scotland in many ways.

Its certainly no more fanciful to suggest that in the future, Shetland or Okrney might become autonomous, self-governing parts of the UK, similar to the Isle of Man or the Jersey, and that the interest in it at the moment is a pre-cursor to that in entirely the normal way.