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To be triggered by the sight and sound of Nicola Sturgeon

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Ladytremain · 16/02/2021 19:02

Since lockdown started I have found that it creates a feeling of dread and anxiety in me every time I hear her voice or see a photo of Nicola Sturgeon or watch her on TV. Same with Boris to an extent, but less so due to Scottish restrictions being more relevant to me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to hear her speak or see her without these horrible feelings coming back: feeling of bleakness and worry about what she’s going to say next. I think I’ve just come to associate her voice and face with bad news. There’s also part of me that has a sense she’s enjoying the level of control she has over the nation. I just don’t think I’ll ever be able to listen to her again without being transported back to these horrible times. I know in my rational mind she’s just doing her job, but I still feel a strong aversion due to the messages she’s delivering

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GreenlandTheMovie · 17/02/2021 14:24

And here's some evidence, not misreporting of facts, for you @BidensRightHandWoman*.

news.sky.com/story/shetland-islands-vote-to-explore-independence-from-scotland-12068826

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 14:41

They are looking at exploring options for increased self determination, not independence.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good headline.

MargaretThursday · 17/02/2021 14:48

b) she’s Scottish and not grovelling in supplication at the feet of the English

The main people I know that can't stand her are Scottish. The people who are most scathing of her are some of her constituents who would told me a square of wallpaper would be a more effective representative in their area. Grin

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 15:56

Bidensrighthandwoman ok then. What if I am blaming her for not saying something sooner? She should have! Why did she not... Because she wouldn’t be where she is now if she had! So yes if she knew he was sexually abusive she should absolutely have said at the time. I can’t believe you think otherwise! If she didn’t see anything, then why do they want him to look guilty now?

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 17/02/2021 15:58

Welcome to my world pre-covid!

And I can’t stand the lot of them not because they are female/male/identify as flapping wet fish but because they are fucking incompetent

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 16:00

What do you think about people who turned a blind eye to Jimmy Saville because they didn’t want to jeopardise their tv careers in an institution that will not let you speak out against them. Actually come to think of it, BBC sounds like another institution I can think of.

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 16:05

Well, it's not the same as Jimmy Saville. As far as I know, Salmond is not abused of inappropriate behaviour with children.

So who should she report behaviour towards another adult to? Why is it her job, rather than the adult that has experienced the behaviour? In fact, what right does she have to override the victims desire not to report? Presumably if they wanted to at the time they would have?

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 16:10

Oh come off it. You know full well what I am saying and it’s nothing to do with children. He was her mentor but she was not a naive lassie. If she seen him abuse his power in a sexual way yes she absolutely should have said something. She never.

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 16:14

Who to?

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 16:16

Weinstein being another example not related to children. Bidens, I have no idea. I’m sure an MSP might have though. She was happy to cost up to him for photos etc, was she not?

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 16:17

Cosy

DieSchottin93 · 17/02/2021 16:19

YANBU. We can't stand her in this house and I know plenty of fellow Scots that feel the same way about her. She is like Marmite, people either cannot stand her or think the sun shines out of her arse and she can do no wrong and everything is the fault of big bad Westminster 🙄

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 16:21

The difference with Weinstein is that it was women that were affected by him that spoke out, when THEY were ready.

So when she reports it, is she supposed to give details of women that, at this point, aren't ready to deal with the situation, otherwise they presumably would have done it themselves?

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 16:24

people either cannot stand her or think the sun shines out of her arse and she can do no wrong and everything is the fault of big bad Westminster

Sorry to bust your stereotypes, but I fall in neither category. I prefer her to BoJo and his cronies, but I can't suffer them at all so that doesn't say much. And I don't blame Westminster as such, I blame the way the political system is set up that means the politics of one country overrides the politics of the other three.

GreenlandTheMovie · 17/02/2021 16:24

@BidensWingWoman

They are looking at exploring options for increased self determination, not independence.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good headline.

Which is potentially a step towards independence.

Lets be clear here. Independence also means independence from Scotland, ie the Scottish state. It could mean becoming a semi-autonomous, self-governing territory, but who knows what the future holds? It could mean returning to Norwegian or Danish control too.

"They" have some very educated people working for them.

IdblowJonSnow · 17/02/2021 16:26

I don't have a problem with her. She seems competent at least and is good at public speaking.

luckylavender · 17/02/2021 16:26

@Loopyloututu - I seriously hate that, it's so sexist

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 16:28

There are ways of doing things. Weinstein continued to get away with it because nobody spoke up. She did not need to name names. She is not just a celebrity like some of these other people, she is in a position of power and authority and should’ve done something. Not wait until after she gets the top position, becomes popular and then get the police to lean on him. If what he was doing was bad enough to warrant them to want him punished, it was bad enough to try to stop him in the first place

luckylavender · 17/02/2021 16:28

@User2941 - we won't always have a pandemic & rejoining the EU won't happen overnight.

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 16:30

But without names and without evidence what do you think would have happened?

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 16:30

I have spent quite a bit of time apparently justifying why I find her abhorrent. Any chance of you telling me why you are so defensive of her?

luckylavender · 17/02/2021 16:31

@Zerrin13 - have you ever heard her introduce herself as Nicky? Nope, me either. I'm a Nicola too & I find it so patronising when people give me a cutesy made up name I didn't chose.

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 16:31

Which is potentially a step towards independence

Potentially. But they will have to persuade a lot of people of the value of that first.

BidensWingWoman · 17/02/2021 16:34

My posts are not about defending her per se.

I'm more interested in why people are rushing to defend Salmond, and I'm trying to figure out what people think the right thing for her to do would have been.

So far I'm failing to see answers that aren't full of gaping holes.

Jollygoodtime · 17/02/2021 16:35

She could’ve fed it to the tabloids. Not ethical. Not nice but if he was as bad as she seems to think it would be worth it to stop more people being affected. Court of public opinion. Anyway, that’s a last resort. She is leader of the country, sadly. I think she’d be able to figure something out. Rather than have another photo op with hugs and kisses riding his coat tails to the top.