To be triggered by the sight and sound of Nicola Sturgeon

[Ladytremain]

Since lockdown started I have found that it creates a feeling of dread and anxiety in me every time I hear her voice or see a photo of Nicola Sturgeon or watch her on TV. Same with Boris to an extent, but less so due to Scottish restrictions being more relevant to me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to hear her speak or see her without these horrible feelings coming back: feeling of bleakness and worry about what she’s going to say next. I think I’ve just come to associate her voice and face with bad news. There’s also part of me that has a sense she’s enjoying the level of control she has over the nation. I just don’t think I’ll ever be able to listen to her again without being transported back to these horrible times. I know in my rational mind she’s just doing her job, but I still feel a strong aversion due to the messages she’s delivering

Not true, Duck. Nicola put us back into lockdown following the last climb and today is trying to send the schools back.

I'm not sure what you think pleases her. Anyone who thinks she enjoys the power of locking us all up is dreaming.

@ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia

I am in London and all I see and hear when she is doing her preaching is constant nagging and not particularly authoritative but loves her captured audience. She seems to be on a power trip and not terribly cooperative with the rest of the UK in any coordinated joined up proactive Covid mitigation strategy. Sometimes she seems to essentially try her upmost to upstage Boris and telling who can and can't entry "her territory" including the UK Heads above her rank etc. Is she loved in Scotland by all Scots there? We down in London don't know enough about her apart from the various political sex scandals within her party etc and those from Scotland including herself who broke the rules Cummings style etc etc. Is there another better Scottish leader?

No, to your final question.

except Mhairi black

Right so you know nothing about her except the fact she didn't want to let Boris in (why the bloody hell would she, the irony of you moaning about her stopping that when you've just mentioned Dominic etc) , the sex scandals which have nothing to do with just now and weren't her, and the fact she took a mask off for 2 seconds which FYI is nothing like Dominic.

But you still feel fit to judge her. Great.

Also, she doesn't co ordinate with Boris when she doesn't agree which is her right. It is him who blindly copies her. She didn't tell him to. She makes her choices. And she can't win because if she did blindly copy him, she would be shot for they.

Those of you complaining about the vaccine roll out. Have you looked at the latest figures? This is today’s graphs from Travelling Tabby. We are way ahead of England - look at London! It was a slow start as she concentrated on getting supplies into care homes - where it will hopefully make the most difference. Rather than going for easy people pleasing high numbers of relatively healthy people.

I like her. Smart, clear and straight to the point. Better than fucking Bungle any day of the year.

Misogyny? Like that’s the only excuse not to like that sly, power hungry, egomaniac.

When I voted, YANBU was winning 55%
We clearly need another vote.

@Jollygoodtime

Misogyny? Like that’s the only excuse not to like that sly, power hungry, egomaniac.

Mmm.

The reason she gets a battering for that but others don't.

In what ways is she an egomaniac? Are you Scottish? Do you think she has led us well through the pandemic?

I’m Scottish and I like her. Most of the other Scottish people I know like her too. She’s a politician and all politicians, regardless of what party they belong to, enjoy feeling important. That doesn’t mean she enjoys having to keep people in lockdown. If she triggers you because you associate her with the shitshow that is a global pandemic then switch off every time she comes on the tv or radio. I wouldn’t want her job for a billion pounds. She’s been strong, direct, articulate and sympathetic during a crisis and I think she’s doing a great job.

@thefourgp

I’m Scottish and I like her. Most of the other Scottish people I know like her too. She’s a politician and all politicians, regardless of what party they belong to, enjoy feeling important. That doesn’t mean she enjoys having to keep people in lockdown. If she triggers you because you associate her with the shitshow that is a global pandemic then switch off every time she comes on the tv or radio. I wouldn’t want her job for a billion pounds. She’s been strong, direct, articulate and sympathetic during a crisis and I think she’s doing a great job.

I'm with you

@Cismyfatarse

She is pretty corrupt and the whole Salmond thing stinks like last week's fish. And, like fish, it is rotting from the head down.

She had meetings that weren't meetings because she forget / they weren't official / the dog ate her homework. She has mis-led Holyrood (ie told lies to cover her arse).

And education is rock bottom.

And the vaccine roll out was slow and badly organised. The quarantine thing is just about being different and so many policies and pronouncements are spin and style over substance.

And don't get me started on hospitals / ferries / Rangers / bifab.

We have low numbers where I am but, hey, maybe I will be allowed to leave the immediate area in 2-3 months because NS loves the power she has given herself over us all.

And she is in thrall to the trans gender bollocks activists. Her Justice secretary won't agree there are 2 sexes and the Minister for Older people has been MIA (Or missing in inaction) for a year in spite of the scandal in care homes and the high death rate amongst the elderly.

All of this. She sounds authoritative and like she knows what she's doing whej clearly she doesn't. Also I disagree that she gets bad press because she's female. Female leaders round the world are being feted for handling Covid in their countries so well, she isn't. I think she's ruthless and prioritising her own position with every decision she makes.

Are the people posting against her here in Scotland? I'm assuming not.

Nicola is far from ruthless.

She has been praised in Scotland for the way she is handling the pandemic. On the whole, we think she's doing a great job.

And the English government are squeaky clean, are they?

No but this thread isn't about them. It's about NS. Why not start one to go with the multiple others running?

@HmmSureJan

And the English government are squeaky clean, are they?

No but this thread isn't about them. It's about NS. Why not start one to go with the multiple others running?

No thanks.

Just pointing out that the pointing out of her taking a mask off for two seconds or being in a party that had a sex scandal is not headline news for a political party. Not seeing anything you couldn't say about every other MP, and not much to backup anything.

@RootyT00t

Are the people posting against her here in Scotland? I'm assuming not.

Nicola is far from ruthless.

I am

I certainly don’t think she’s doing a great job at all.

She talks a better game than Boris is all.

What do you think she’s done that is great?

Oh @RootyT00t I didn't realise it was you. If you don't mind I'll be ignoring you from now on. I don't believe you are a good faith MNetter.

@Kaffiene

Those of you complaining about the vaccine roll out. Have you looked at the latest figures? This is today’s graphs from Travelling Tabby. We are way ahead of England - look at London! It was a slow start as she concentrated on getting supplies into care homes - where it will hopefully make the most difference. Rather than going for easy people pleasing high numbers of relatively healthy people.

That would be because the British army were sent in though to help fix the mess

RootyT00t I am Scottish. No I don’t think she’s done that well. Has she been much different in practice to Boris, apart from a better speaking ability? I think she gets rated higher because of the way she digs at him. People who might not like him see her making a fool of him and decide she must be alright. For example some English people who say they don’t know anything about her politics but she sounds more competent. She isn’t good just looks better in comparison. Do you ever hear anyone in SNP disagree with her? Look at what she did allegedly to Salmond. She goes to the same meetings as Boris, announces the same plan earlier in the day and gets credit, she won’t get off the bloody tv, her face is always twisted when questioned and is always rolling her eyes and making a fool of people. She won’t quit her independence obsession it’s not about what Scotland wants she wants to be ruler. Is she redeemed by her day job (constituency)? absolutely not. What about her education record? Nope. Drugs? No we’re pretty awful there too. She wants to turn us into a nanny state also with things like named person scheme. Uses things like NHS workers payment (love the NHS and grateful) for Covid and baby boxes, now tutor/teacher payments for exams to soften people up when it would be better spent elsewhere. The covid/care home fiasco. These are just the things I can think of, off the top of my head.

Did to Salmond? I’m no fan of wee Nikki but Salmond should be in jail.

That’s up to a court to decide. And they did. I think he’s sleazy myself and can’t stand him, however she’s totally backstabbed him and been sneaky about the whole thing. She’s no saint.

A' this moanin: Ah've haddy nuff

where's ma clicky pen?

She is now the voice of doom. That will always happen when you decide to be the one to deliver the bad news bulletin day after day for the best part of a year. It would have been better optics for her to diversify the delivery, it is about association.

I’m no fan of wee Nikki but Salmond should be in jail

Why? He was cleared of all charges! In our country you are INNOCENT until proven guilty and he is free to live his life again.

He has been stitched up, and I do hope some justice is served when we find out the full facts in the coming months, about how much NS knew and who was pressing CPS. The whole thing absolutely stinks of dishonesty and corruption.

The investigation into the SNP is being carried out by the SNP, it does not bode well for them.

This is a good link:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/scotsnet/4153007-Does-it-matter-if-Sturgeon-is-guilty-do-you-know-or-care

@PersonaNonGarter

Tell you what *@Mistlewoeandwhine* why don’t you swap your ‘lying toe-rag’ for our Scottish Education statistics? You can lecture us about ‘it’s cos she’s a woman’ when your DC are facing the same bottom-of-International-league-tables attainment.

Oh, and if you have been following the Salmond case, you’ll know Nicola Sturgeon also falls under the ‘lying toe-rag’ heading as well.

I have been following the Salmond case, and so far as I can tell, the fuss about Sturgeon centres around the fact that when she was giving evidence, she said that the meeting she first had with Salmond about the allegations was four days later than it was. That's it. That's the whole thing. It's not at all clear what she'd have to gain from deliberately lying about a four day gap, particularly as she did indeed meet with Salmond on the day she said she did - she was just told about the meeting, and what it would be about, four days before. Hardly Watergate.

Scottish education is a mess, no doubt, but that's another story.