To be triggered by the sight and sound of Nicola Sturgeon

[Ladytremain]

Since lockdown started I have found that it creates a feeling of dread and anxiety in me every time I hear her voice or see a photo of Nicola Sturgeon or watch her on TV. Same with Boris to an extent, but less so due to Scottish restrictions being more relevant to me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to hear her speak or see her without these horrible feelings coming back: feeling of bleakness and worry about what she’s going to say next. I think I’ve just come to associate her voice and face with bad news. There’s also part of me that has a sense she’s enjoying the level of control she has over the nation. I just don’t think I’ll ever be able to listen to her again without being transported back to these horrible times. I know in my rational mind she’s just doing her job, but I still feel a strong aversion due to the messages she’s delivering

@hamstersarse

She’s got a lot of sociopathic traits

Probably why a lot of people worship her

What traits of hers? And would these 'traits' be classed as sociopathic if they were displayed in a man? Or would people simply see him as assertive and determined to do what is best for the country and not just crumble to the popular opinion of the most vocal?

I'm not being argumentative here, I'm genuinely interested in how certain traits are perceived in a woman as opposed to a man.

And no, I don't worship or even vote for Nicola Sturgeon or the SNP, I used to but sadly have been put off by various issues.

Scottish born and bred and live in Scotland.

Don’t like the SNP or Salmond or Sturgeon.

This doesn’t help;

www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2015/04/14/rival-candidates-renew-spat-over-ferry-fares

I'm not Scottish, but live in Scotland which was fun during the last independence referendum- not.

She is better at closing things down quicker than Boris and not in thrall to the pubs or Nigel Farage. However less good at any leaps of faith - don't think we'd have all the vaccines we do if SG had to make the decisions and put the money in.

Also despite knowing we're going to be in lockdown longer than England, she's having an election in May because SNP has a margin at the minute- despite the risks of people mingling in the voting stations and probably closing schools where most secondary DCs will lose yet more face to face education.

Oh and given the choice she'd keep borders between Scotland and England closed forever which is tricky for those of us with relatives there.

almighty There is a lot more to it than that! Read the link I posted and that will give you a very idea of the full picture. You are very misguided if you think this is just a small lie about timing.

I can't stand her, her voice gets on my pip.

My husband thinks she's wonderful

Don’t worry OP, she won’t be around much longer. Things are getting pretty nasty within the SNP with this Alex Salmond thing.

@Mistlewoeandwhine

And I suspect that some of the hatred directed towards her is because a) she’s female b) she’s Scottish and not grovelling in supplication at the feet of the English

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I always look askance at people who start these kind of threads. They know exactly what they're doing.

OP YANBU. A former supporter here whose eyes have been opened.

Why do people hate her so much?

Because she is a dishonest hustler who is hellbent on breaking up the country maybe oko?

She’s been strong, direct, articulate and sympathetic during a crisis and I think she’s doing a great job.

I completely agree with you @thefourgp

I don't rate any of these politicians chances when this is over. They trigger us all. We are going to want them out and to never see any of their faces in our TVs again.

It's going to have some sort psychological name!

Completely agree OP.

I read the BBC report afterwards as I can't bear to watch or listen.

She is a Nationalist. A political movement that derived from false constructs of identity, exceptionalism, exclusion and prejudice.

Her entire political ambition has at its heart a fundamental contradiction. She wants to leave the uk Union and she wants to join the eu Union. That’s economically inept. It’s politically inept and it’s socially inept.

But in the world of nationalist rhetoric as long as she opposes England and Boris it is valid. Her arguments aren’t any better than those made for brexit by what were English nationalists or by MAGA movement.

As you can see I view nationalism as a barren movement that has never led to anything positive other than war, depression and persecution.

@LemonTT

She is a Nationalist. A political movement that derived from false constructs of identity, exceptionalism, exclusion and prejudice.

Her entire political ambition has at its heart a fundamental contradiction. She wants to leave the uk Union and she wants to join the eu Union. That’s economically inept. It’s politically inept and it’s socially inept.

But in the world of nationalist rhetoric as long as she opposes England and Boris it is valid. Her arguments aren’t any better than those made for brexit by what were English nationalists or by MAGA movement.

As you can see I view nationalism as a barren movement that has never led to anything positive other than war, depression and persecution.

This! I felt the same when Salmond was at the helm. It’s got nothing to do with her being a woman.

@LemonTT

She is a Nationalist. A political movement that derived from false constructs of identity, exceptionalism, exclusion and prejudice.

Her entire political ambition has at its heart a fundamental contradiction. She wants to leave the uk Union and she wants to join the eu Union. That’s economically inept. It’s politically inept and it’s socially inept.

But in the world of nationalist rhetoric as long as she opposes England and Boris it is valid. Her arguments aren’t any better than those made for brexit by what were English nationalists or by MAGA movement.

As you can see I view nationalism as a barren movement that has never led to anything positive other than war, depression and persecution.

Well said.

[quote stampsurprise]Scottish born and bred and live in Scotland.

Don’t like the SNP or Salmond or Sturgeon.

This doesn’t help;

www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2015/04/14/rival-candidates-renew-spat-over-ferry-fares[/quote]
Yes, it's well known that the SNP punish Shetland and Orkney for never voting in an SNP MSP or MP. Even when Sturgeon turned up all over the place before the last bi-election, they still didnt vote for her.

I felt that way about Trump. Grim af.

@Loopyloututu

We call her little Jimmy Krankie

We call her the Highland Hitler.

@thefourgp

I’m Scottish and I like her. Most of the other Scottish people I know like her too. She’s a politician and all politicians, regardless of what party they belong to, enjoy feeling important. That doesn’t mean she enjoys having to keep people in lockdown. If she triggers you because you associate her with the shitshow that is a global pandemic then switch off every time she comes on the tv or radio. I wouldn’t want her job for a billion pounds. She’s been strong, direct, articulate and sympathetic during a crisis and I think she’s doing a great job.

I know almost no one who supports or likes her, but I'm rural based, and she is exceptionally unpopular amongst most Scottish farmers and business owners.

The people who I've known to be most fanatical about her have been long term unemployed, or failed in life at most things they've done, and really believe she is the new messiah, who will redistribute wealth in a way that the former USSR failed to do. With its unicaneral legislature (where decisions of MSPS are checked only by committees of those same MSPS themselves), there certainly a lot in common with the Politbureau.

BTW an independent Scotland will not be joining the EU. The EU dont want any more new members, the last EU expansion was surcufucally to let the former Eastern European States in and was accompanied by significant ongoing assistance from the EU which entailed substantial interference in their legal systems and which still took 12 years, although it was referred to as "the accelerated entry oricedure". That accelerated entry procedure itsejf was a one off. Its doubtful that even EFTA would want Scotland, due to the economic problems it would face on independence.

Why aren't the Scottish people asking the SNP to provide more detail on their pie-in-the-sky ideas? There wasn't even a commitment in the last white paper on ibdeirndence to sign up to the European convention on human rights!

I too am rather dubious about threads like these. It;s the 'innocence' of a personal issue KNOWING it will lead to very political responses.

All a bit disingenuous.

@Pan2

I too am rather dubious about threads like these. It;s the 'innocence' of a personal issue KNOWING it will lead to very political responses.

All a bit disingenuous.

It’s a member of the public criticising a politician. There’s nothing dubious about that. NS is not above critique or dislike. For her demeanour or her politics or both.

Like Farage, Johnson, Trump and others she has an exclusively nationalist agenda and I will criticise all of them. Especially when they threaten to close land borders on islands.

I like her, would much rather her in charge than Boris and co. (I'm in England). I've lived in Scotland, and would like to again at some point.

@ilovesooty. Hello Nicola.

Can't stand her but my initial automatic "feck off" is when Jason Leitch comes on, I swear I have no control over it.
As far as I can see the SNP just want to bribe people for their vote and keep the populace dependent upon them. I never see how they plan to grow the economy, solve the education disaster or reduce drugs deaths just a wee pat on the head and here be a good citizen, here's a wee 20 quid for you