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To be triggered by the sight and sound of Nicola Sturgeon

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Ladytremain · 16/02/2021 19:02

Since lockdown started I have found that it creates a feeling of dread and anxiety in me every time I hear her voice or see a photo of Nicola Sturgeon or watch her on TV. Same with Boris to an extent, but less so due to Scottish restrictions being more relevant to me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to hear her speak or see her without these horrible feelings coming back: feeling of bleakness and worry about what she’s going to say next. I think I’ve just come to associate her voice and face with bad news. There’s also part of me that has a sense she’s enjoying the level of control she has over the nation. I just don’t think I’ll ever be able to listen to her again without being transported back to these horrible times. I know in my rational mind she’s just doing her job, but I still feel a strong aversion due to the messages she’s delivering

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Jaypreen · 20/02/2021 17:46

Yes I am "sticking with demonstratively" . Considering I've just demonstrated several episodes of SNP Anglo-phobia, I believe I'm justified doing so. I've also demonstrated the rise of Anglophobia in general that exists in Scotland.

Of course, you could start whatabouting over Unionists and/or anti Scottish racism on the part of the English, at any point, if you like, please don't let me stop you.

The difference though is - an English National Party an SNP equivalent, would never get off the ground in UK politics. As English voters don't seem to suffer the collective neurosis which makes the Scottish electorate able to exploit its 'victimhood' at the hands of the English. Before you say "whatabout UKIP"? My answer would be, rejection of the EU by the English was accompanied by economic and political argument. 'You put a lot in and you get f*ck all back - politically and economically - we could get better value for many outside'. Unhappiness about the loss of sovereignty etc. Whether you agree with it or not, there was no notion of 'You are being victimised by the EU because you are British' or 'We hate European public school toffs ruling us'.

Sadly - I think there's no future for England and Scotland to stay together. The manufactured loathing, from the Scottish establishment, is now entrenched. I don't doubt many Scots are far more sensible - but they're being censored.

BidensWingWoman · 20/02/2021 19:26

Clue: demonstrably is a word.

So after the first one of the incidents you mentioned, the FM said 'I apply the same standards to everybody. Let me be clear: no matter who they come from, I condemn any comments or language that are in any way, shape or form racist or anti-English.

That is not what my party or the movement that I am part of is for or represents. I will practise the values I hold dear, and I expect everybody to do likewise'

The second as far as I can tell, relates to something in the 90s. I would hope that maybe she has changed since then. But I don't know. If she's as bad as that suggests then they did make a big mistake with that. Presumably the party members closer to her would know though. I don't think she got elected in anyway, and there have been people, and there may well still be, in Westminster with links to terrorism. I don't see you moaning about that.

And as for the Ian Blackford tweet, it's not anglophobic to tell someone not to travel to Scotland from New Zealand in a pandemic. Even if that person happens to be English. Even if they use the words fuck off.

It's not 'whataboutery' to demonstrate that an argument is one-sided. But honestly, this is going nowhere. If the best you've got is someone telling someone not to travel in pandemic, then you've not got much.

Jaypreen · 20/02/2021 20:09

@BidensWingWoman

Clue: demonstrably is a word.

So after the first one of the incidents you mentioned, the FM said 'I apply the same standards to everybody. Let me be clear: no matter who they come from, I condemn any comments or language that are in any way, shape or form racist or anti-English.

That is not what my party or the movement that I am part of is for or represents. I will practise the values I hold dear, and I expect everybody to do likewise'

The second as far as I can tell, relates to something in the 90s. I would hope that maybe she has changed since then. But I don't know. If she's as bad as that suggests then they did make a big mistake with that. Presumably the party members closer to her would know though. I don't think she got elected in anyway, and there have been people, and there may well still be, in Westminster with links to terrorism. I don't see you moaning about that.

And as for the Ian Blackford tweet, it's not anglophobic to tell someone not to travel to Scotland from New Zealand in a pandemic. Even if that person happens to be English. Even if they use the words fuck off.

It's not 'whataboutery' to demonstrate that an argument is one-sided. But honestly, this is going nowhere. If the best you've got is someone telling someone not to travel in pandemic, then you've not got much.

I see, so all that can be explained away?

Presumably you'd be equally magnanimous about that sign if it were situated at a Scottish international airport 'greeting' foreign visitors from the EU -- would you ?

You're a fine example of how entrenched and normalised Anglophobia has become in Scotland -- well done.

BidensWingWoman · 20/02/2021 20:35

That's hardly the same thing add you know it.

I didn't explain it all away. I just demonstrated that your take on it wasn't the whole story. And somehow now that makes me hate the English 😂

That's going to be news for a lot of people!

stampsurprise · 03/03/2021 06:29

Looks like you may soon see the back of her OP! Grin

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